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Re: Accurate Player Heights Predictions 

Post#61 » by RealShaneGray » Fri Oct 4, 2019 7:40 pm

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rugbyrugger23 wrote:Zion 6'6".


Allegedly. No nba reps there so teams can pretty much post what they want and with rounding up to nearest inch you can bet anything over 6'5" got rounded up to 6'6". They should have did 1/4" or half inch increments and had nba rep do the measurements rather than team trainers.


Pure conjecture.

Who says they're going to round 1/4" up to the nearest full inch?


I didnt say every quarter inch will necessarily round up to next inch but you can bet it will happen and certainly all the half inch ones will. They ain't rounding down!

Every height coming out so far is well above combine barefoot measurements for one and two most teams and players did not want to do this anyhow. Teams have always overlisted or used shoe heights and u domt think they would round up now???

Yes, some guys will land right on an inch but most wont and when short you can bet most will get rounded up. These are going to be very early morning measurements too like combine was to get as full of a height measurement as possible. There were several teams and players unhappy about the changes by the way.
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Re: Accurate Player Heights Predictions 

Post#62 » by RealShaneGray » Fri Oct 4, 2019 7:42 pm

snaquille oatmeal wrote:these numbers don't mean jack to me unless you post the before measurement as well. lol


Agreed
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Re: Accurate Player Heights Predictions 

Post#63 » by RealShaneGray » Fri Oct 4, 2019 7:45 pm

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RealShaneGray wrote:There are also plenty of examples where players have lost an inch from their college listing when going pro and others who gained an inch


Feel free to name some, then. For every one you list where the NBA "shrunk" the guy (or in rare cases, grew him), there will be several times more cases where a guy's listed height remained totally unchanged from his college listing.

Has a guy ever lost an inch from their college listing? Sure, but that's far more the exception than it is the rule and most people won't be able to name one of the top of their heads. They'll have to scour the internet for just a few instances of this.

You'll get far more examples of Jason Collins occurrences, and that's the reason the NBA is even bringing it up. If there were even a decent amount of people who lost an inch (when they were supposed to), the NBA wouldn't have made this an issue.


I've compared listings for years and years from combines, college teams, nba listings etc. Plenty of examples for all these things happening. Also nba teams didnt ask for this policy change the micro managers in league office and likely silver did. We arent going to agree and thats fine .
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Re: Accurate Player Heights Predictions 

Post#64 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Fri Oct 4, 2019 7:46 pm

chefo wrote:Over the years, I've met/run across several NBA players, and having played ball, I can probably guestimate what their true (shoeless) height is:

I'm 189.5cm (or a little less than 6'3 barefoot) and many guys listed as taller than me were often eye-to-eye with me or shorter.

JJ Reddick: 6'2
Tobias Harris: 6'6
Doug McDermott: 6'5-6'5.5
Elfrid Payton: 6'2 ... maybe he has grown because he was very young when I met him, but he was my height... including the hair
Chandler Parsons: a legit 6'7-6'8, and that was while he was in high-school, so he may have grown since

Some that lo longer play:
DeShawn Stevenson: 6'3 ... my height exactly, if I had to guess
Hedo: legit 6'10 or taller--dude is massive despite his posture and gut
Big Baby: 6'5... barely taller than me, but as wide as two of me, haha
Never met Dwight, but from up close, didn't look that tall--probably 6'8 or maybe 6'8.5; ridiculously wide and built though
Never met Vucevic either, but the opposite of Dwight--I think he's a legit 7' barefoot

From personal observations, many of the guys I've met or observed from fairly up-close are a good 2-3 inches shorter than listed. I remember being told that your spine compresses almost a centimeter or more over the day (or about half an inch)--you add some generous soles in the shoes, and it's not surprising that the playing heights are nowhere near barefoot heights.

I think the listed heights were more a marketing thing than anything, kind of like WWE light. I talked to Glenn Jacobs' (Kane from WWE) college coach and he told me that he was the most ridiculously gifted athlete he's ever seen, but he was 6'8 on a good day, and nowhere near 7' like his WWE height--but it sounds much more impressive. I think same thing is true for NBA players--you want giants playing ball not some 6'1 guys.

Anyhow, my 2c.



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Undertaker is another one that was always billed as a huge monster, then people saw his picture next to Kevin Love and were shocked how small he looked :lol:
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Re: Accurate Player Heights Predictions 

Post#65 » by dc » Fri Oct 4, 2019 7:47 pm

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RealShaneGray wrote:There are also plenty of examples where players have lost an inch from their college listing when going pro and others who gained an inch


Feel free to name some, then. For every one you list where the NBA "shrunk" the guy (or in rare cases, grew him), there will be several times more cases where a guy's listed height remained totally unchanged from his college listing.

Has a guy ever lost an inch from their college listing? Sure, but that's far more the exception than it is the rule and most people won't be able to name one of the top of their heads. They'll have to scour the internet for just a few instances of this.

You'll get far more examples of Jason Collins occurrences, and that's the reason the NBA is even bringing it up. If there were even a decent amount of people who lost an inch (when they were supposed to), the NBA wouldn't have made this an issue.


I've compared listings for years and years from combines, college teams, nba listings etc. Plenty of examples for all these things happening. Also nba teams didnt ask for this policy change the micro managers in league office and likely silver did. We arent going to agree and thats fine .


All this babbling from you and you haven't named one single example of what keep touting. If what you say is so prevalent, please name one example. Thanks.
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Re: Accurate Player Heights Predictions 

Post#66 » by Ryoga Hibiki » Fri Oct 4, 2019 7:52 pm

johanliebert wrote:
Gooner wrote:
Cal And Jay wrote:Westbrook 6'4", Kevin Love 6'7", KD 7'0"


Kevin Love is not 5 inchest shorter than KD lol. He is about 1-2 cm taller than LeBron.

kevin love is not taller than lebron lol. Lebrons measurements will surprise people.
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Re: Accurate Player Heights Predictions 

Post#67 » by dc » Fri Oct 4, 2019 8:04 pm

Ryoga Hibiki wrote:
johanliebert wrote:kevin love is not taller than lebron lol. Lebrons measurements will surprise people.
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Boozer was measured 6-7.5 at the combine


To be fair, Lebron measured at 6'7.25" as an 18 year old. And in that pic, Lebron doesn't appear to be standing quite as upright as Boozer.

I think Lebron and Love are quite similar in height. They're in the same ballpark, at least.

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Re: Accurate Player Heights Predictions 

Post#68 » by leolozon » Fri Oct 4, 2019 8:08 pm

Looks like Porzingis was measured at 7'3 without shoes...
As for Doncic, he was measured at 6'7, which means the suspicion that he should have been listed at 6'8 last year was true
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Re: Accurate Player Heights Predictions 

Post#69 » by Dnt hate » Fri Oct 4, 2019 8:20 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
chefo wrote:Over the years, I've met/run across several NBA players, and having played ball, I can probably guestimate what their true (shoeless) height is:

I'm 189.5cm (or a little less than 6'3 barefoot) and many guys listed as taller than me were often eye-to-eye with me or shorter.

JJ Reddick: 6'2
Tobias Harris: 6'6
Doug McDermott: 6'5-6'5.5
Elfrid Payton: 6'2 ... maybe he has grown because he was very young when I met him, but he was my height... including the hair
Chandler Parsons: a legit 6'7-6'8, and that was while he was in high-school, so he may have grown since

Some that lo longer play:
DeShawn Stevenson: 6'3 ... my height exactly, if I had to guess
Hedo: legit 6'10 or taller--dude is massive despite his posture and gut
Big Baby: 6'5... barely taller than me, but as wide as two of me, haha
Never met Dwight, but from up close, didn't look that tall--probably 6'8 or maybe 6'8.5; ridiculously wide and built though
Never met Vucevic either, but the opposite of Dwight--I think he's a legit 7' barefoot

From personal observations, many of the guys I've met or observed from fairly up-close are a good 2-3 inches shorter than listed. I remember being told that your spine compresses almost a centimeter or more over the day (or about half an inch)--you add some generous soles in the shoes, and it's not surprising that the playing heights are nowhere near barefoot heights.

I think the listed heights were more a marketing thing than anything, kind of like WWE light. I talked to Glenn Jacobs' (Kane from WWE) college coach and he told me that he was the most ridiculously gifted athlete he's ever seen, but he was 6'8 on a good day, and nowhere near 7' like his WWE height--but it sounds much more impressive. I think same thing is true for NBA players--you want giants playing ball not some 6'1 guys.

Anyhow, my 2c.



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Undertaker is another one that was always billed as a huge monster, then people saw his picture next to Kevin Love and were shocked how small he looked :lol:

That's not Undertaker, that's Kane
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Re: Accurate Player Heights Predictions 

Post#70 » by RealShaneGray » Fri Oct 4, 2019 8:43 pm

dc wrote:
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dc wrote:
Feel free to name some, then. For every one you list where the NBA "shrunk" the guy (or in rare cases, grew him), there will be several times more cases where a guy's listed height remained totally unchanged from his college listing.

Has a guy ever lost an inch from their college listing? Sure, but that's far more the exception than it is the rule and most people won't be able to name one of the top of their heads. They'll have to scour the internet for just a few instances of this.

You'll get far more examples of Jason Collins occurrences, and that's the reason the NBA is even bringing it up. If there were even a decent amount of people who lost an inch (when they were supposed to), the NBA wouldn't have made this an issue.


I've compared listings for years and years from combines, college teams, nba listings etc. Plenty of examples for all these things happening. Also nba teams didnt ask for this policy change the micro managers in league office and likely silver did. We arent going to agree and thats fine .


All this babbling from you and you haven't named one single example of what keep touting. If what you say is so prevalent, please name one example. Thanks.


There are tons of them over the years. You already admitted to knowing of examples like I mentioned so it's pointless for me to post them. Anyone who follows this knows there are examples of players who fit all of these categories of gaining, losing or staying the same .
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Post#71 » by RealShaneGray » Fri Oct 4, 2019 8:46 pm

leolozon wrote:Looks like Porzingis was measured at 7'3 without shoes...
As for Doncic, he was measured at 6'7, which means the suspicion that he should have been listed at 6'8 last year was true


Which is 2 inches above KPs combine measurement just before turning 20. (Technically 1.5). I'm guessing we will get lots of supposed measurements like this where players are significantly higher than their combine barefoot measurements. Many teams likely won't comply and will report what they want.
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Post#72 » by D.Brasco » Fri Oct 4, 2019 9:18 pm

dc wrote:
Ryoga Hibiki wrote:
johanliebert wrote:kevin love is not taller than lebron lol. Lebrons measurements will surprise people.
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Boozer was measured 6-7.5 at the combine


To be fair, Lebron measured at 6'7.25" as an 18 year old. And in that pic, Lebron doesn't appear to be standing quite as upright as Boozer.

I think Lebron and Love are quite similar in height. They're in the same ballpark, at least.

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Yes they are within a .5" of each other, which does match up to their draft measurements, 6'7.75" for Love and 6'7.25" for LBJ.

I used to think LeBron likely grew since his draft but he was already so physically developed as an 18 year old he was probably at or near his final height then.
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Post#73 » by dc » Fri Oct 4, 2019 9:43 pm

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There are tons of them over the years. You already admitted to knowing of examples like I mentioned so it's pointless for me to post them. Anyone who follows this knows there are examples of players who fit all of these categories of gaining, losing or staying the same .


Actually, I don't know of any off the top of my head. I said they probably exist, but that it would be very hard to find, and that was my point. That the instances of players that the NBA listing shrinks (from their college listing) is extremely rare and that it would be difficult to find one.

So no, I don't think it would be pointless because such examples wouldn't be easy to find. I'm saying they are rare cases. You on the other hand said you have seen tons of instances over the years.

I'm just asking you to name one. Just ONE. Please go ahead and find one instance. I'm not going to get all mad and defensive once you post it, so no offense taken at all on my part. In fact I'll give you credit and an And1+ for posting it because I don't think it's very easy to find.
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Re: Accurate Player Heights Predictions 

Post#74 » by chefo » Fri Oct 4, 2019 10:08 pm

Man, the Mavs are a gargantuan team :)

With shoes on heights:

6'8 PG
6'6 SG
6'8 SF (who's playing SF again)?
7'4 PF
7'5 C (even if Boban doesn't play much, just for fun pencil him in as the starter)

Two more 6'11 pretty athletic guys... Mavs will be fun to watch this year, especially if Luka continues developing.
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Post#75 » by RookieStar » Fri Oct 4, 2019 10:08 pm

Dnt hate wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
chefo wrote:Over the years, I've met/run across several NBA players, and having played ball, I can probably guestimate what their true (shoeless) height is:

I'm 189.5cm (or a little less than 6'3 barefoot) and many guys listed as taller than me were often eye-to-eye with me or shorter.

JJ Reddick: 6'2
Tobias Harris: 6'6
Doug McDermott: 6'5-6'5.5
Elfrid Payton: 6'2 ... maybe he has grown because he was very young when I met him, but he was my height... including the hair
Chandler Parsons: a legit 6'7-6'8, and that was while he was in high-school, so he may have grown since

Some that lo longer play:
DeShawn Stevenson: 6'3 ... my height exactly, if I had to guess
Hedo: legit 6'10 or taller--dude is massive despite his posture and gut
Big Baby: 6'5... barely taller than me, but as wide as two of me, haha
Never met Dwight, but from up close, didn't look that tall--probably 6'8 or maybe 6'8.5; ridiculously wide and built though
Never met Vucevic either, but the opposite of Dwight--I think he's a legit 7' barefoot

From personal observations, many of the guys I've met or observed from fairly up-close are a good 2-3 inches shorter than listed. I remember being told that your spine compresses almost a centimeter or more over the day (or about half an inch)--you add some generous soles in the shoes, and it's not surprising that the playing heights are nowhere near barefoot heights.

I think the listed heights were more a marketing thing than anything, kind of like WWE light. I talked to Glenn Jacobs' (Kane from WWE) college coach and he told me that he was the most ridiculously gifted athlete he's ever seen, but he was 6'8 on a good day, and nowhere near 7' like his WWE height--but it sounds much more impressive. I think same thing is true for NBA players--you want giants playing ball not some 6'1 guys.

Anyhow, my 2c.



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Undertaker is another one that was always billed as a huge monster, then people saw his picture next to Kevin Love and were shocked how small he looked :lol:

That's not Undertaker, that's Kane


Aren't they supposed to be brothers? lol
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Re: Accurate Player Heights Predictions 

Post#76 » by RealShaneGray » Sat Oct 5, 2019 1:06 am

dc wrote:
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There are tons of them over the years. You already admitted to knowing of examples like I mentioned so it's pointless for me to post them. Anyone who follows this knows there are examples of players who fit all of these categories of gaining, losing or staying the same .


Actually, I don't know of any off the top of my head. I said they probably exist, but that it would be very hard to find, and that was my point. That the instances of players that the NBA listing shrinks (from their college listing) is extremely rare and that it would be difficult to find one.

So no, I don't think it would be pointless because such examples wouldn't be easy to find. I'm saying they are rare cases. You on the other hand said you have seen tons of instances over the years.

I'm just asking you to name one. Just ONE. Please go ahead and find one instance. I'm not going to get all mad and defensive once you post it, so no offense taken at all on my part. In fact I'll give you credit and an And1+ for posting it because I don't think it's very easy to find.


Ok I will get you some tomorrow.
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Post#77 » by RealShaneGray » Sat Oct 5, 2019 1:09 am

chefo wrote:Man, the Mavs are a gargantuan team :)

With shoes on heights:

6'8 PG
6'6 SG
6'8 SF (who's playing SF again)?
7'4 PF
7'5 C (even if Boban doesn't play much, just for fun pencil him in as the starter)

Two more 6'11 pretty athletic guys... Mavs will be fun to watch this year, especially if Luka continues developing.


Not buying it. Kp was 7'1 1/4" right at 20 years and nobody has ever talked about him growing since then. Now all the sudden hes 7'2 3/4" barefoot or what would have been 7'4"? Nah I just dont believe that .
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Re: Accurate Player Heights Predictions 

Post#78 » by Gooner » Sat Oct 5, 2019 7:58 am

johanliebert wrote:
Gooner wrote:
Cal And Jay wrote:Westbrook 6'4", Kevin Love 6'7", KD 7'0"


Kevin Love is not 5 inchest shorter than KD lol. He is about 1-2 cm taller than LeBron.

kevin love is not taller than lebron lol. Lebrons measurements will surprise people.


He is a little bit taller. About 1 or 2 cm.
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Post#79 » by GregOden » Sat Oct 5, 2019 8:12 am

Lebron is going to be 6'8. Durant already measured at 6'10 at Nets camp.
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Post#80 » by DoItALL9 » Sat Oct 5, 2019 5:49 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
Forte IV wrote:Im really hoping JJ Barea is like 5'7




He measured at 5'10" which feels really really generous still. Even his quotes afterword make it seem like he knows he got away with something.
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