TRAYCE JACKSON-DAVIS (Indiana)

[KevinMcreynolds]

who hyped McCaw/Rollins?

They had more attention in the second round than a lot of other guys did. Plus, any time the Warriors draft someone there is an expectation that they are "smarter" than other teams, or at least there was for a while b/c of how well they did with their core.

They were smarter than everyone else when Jerry West was running the show. Unfortunately Bob Myers was lightyears behind the rest of the league with his picks.

outside of Draymond, all our 2nd round picks under West amounted to nothing. Myers is the one who scouted Draymond too.

[Big J]

They had more attention in the second round than a lot of other guys did. Plus, any time the Warriors draft someone there is an expectation that they are "smarter" than other teams, or at least there was for a while b/c of how well they did with their core.

They were smarter than everyone else when Jerry West was running the show. Unfortunately Bob Myers was lightyears behind the rest of the league with his picks.

outside of Draymond, all our 2nd round picks under West amounted to nothing. Myers is the one who scouted Draymond too.

Who cares, his 1st round picks were so good that the 2nd rounders didn't matter.

[KevinMcreynolds]

They were smarter than everyone else when Jerry West was running the show. Unfortunately Bob Myers was lightyears behind the rest of the league with his picks.

outside of Draymond, all our 2nd round picks under West amounted to nothing. Myers is the one who scouted Draymond too.

Who cares, his 1st round picks were so good that the 2nd rounders didn't matter.

You should care, since you’re giving all the credit to West.

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[basketballwacko2]

The W's will be very happy they took Trayce he's a full grown man at 23 he's 6'8''+ and 245 when the 2nd unit comes in he will have a high motor, great vertical leap, great shot blocking ability and finishes strong at the basket. The surprise is gonna come in the form of his shooting from the elbow and he CAN hit the 3.

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[bucknut]

The W's will be very happy they took Trayce he's a full grown man at 23 he's 6'8''+ and 245 when the 2nd unit comes in he will have a high motor, great vertical leap, great shot blocking ability and finishes strong at the basket. The surprise is gonna come in the form of his shooting from the elbow and he CAN hit the 3.

Spoiler:

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How is he different then sabonis ? I mean seem to have pretty similar games. Sabonis better passer but....I see elbow....post moves....both college studs

Height being obvious difference. But he can play center. No real centers no adays

[clyde21]

The W's will be very happy they took Trayce he's a full grown man at 23 he's 6'8''+ and 245 when the 2nd unit comes in he will have a high motor, great vertical leap, great shot blocking ability and finishes strong at the basket. The surprise is gonna come in the form of his shooting from the elbow and he CAN hit the 3.

Spoiler:

Watch on YouTube

How is he different then sabonis ? I mean seem to have pretty similar games. Sabonis better passer but....I see elbow....post moves....both college studs

Height being obvious difference. But he can play center. No real centers no adays

whats Domantas now? 7-2?

[EvanZ]

I like TJD but I don't think he's that different functionally from what we saw with Jordan Bell a few years back. TJD is marginally bigger but I don't think he's a better athlete. Have to hope his BBIQ is much higher than Bell, but I thought Bell was actually a really good passer at Oregon. Just didn't work as a small ball 5 with GS. Hoping TJD is just a bit better than that, but realistically he fell to 57 and no other team wanted to give him a roster spot. He has his work cut out for him.

[basketballwacko2]

The W's will be very happy they took Trayce he's a full grown man at 23 he's 6'8''+ and 245 when the 2nd unit comes in he will have a high motor, great vertical leap, great shot blocking ability and finishes strong at the basket. The surprise is gonna come in the form of his shooting from the elbow and he CAN hit the 3.

Spoiler:

Watch on YouTube

How is he different then sabonis ? I mean seem to have pretty similar games. Sabonis better passer but....I see elbow....post moves....both college studs

Height being obvious difference. But he can play center. No real centers no adays

Do you mean how is he different "Than" Sabonis? He's a much better shot blocker, but a slightly shorter Sabonis is suppose to be 6'11'' and TJD is 6'9''.

[basketballwacko2]

I like TJD but I don't think he's that different functionally from what we saw with Jordan Bell a few years back. TJD is marginally bigger but I don't think he's a better athlete. Have to hope his BBIQ is much higher than Bell, but I thought Bell was actually a really good passer at Oregon. Just didn't work as a small ball 5 with GS. Hoping TJD is just a bit better than that, but realistically he fell to 57 and no other team wanted to give him a roster spot. He has his work cut out for him.

He's 99.9% better than Bell.

[bucknut]

The W's will be very happy they took Trayce he's a full grown man at 23 he's 6'8''+ and 245 when the 2nd unit comes in he will have a high motor, great vertical leap, great shot blocking ability and finishes strong at the basket. The surprise is gonna come in the form of his shooting from the elbow and he CAN hit the 3.

Spoiler:

Watch on YouTube

How is he different then sabonis ? I mean seem to have pretty similar games. Sabonis better passer but....I see elbow....post moves....both college studs

Height being obvious difference. But he can play center. No real centers no adays

Do you mean how is he different "Than" Sabonis? He's a much better shot blocker, but a slightly shorter Sabonis is suppose to be 6'11'' and TJD is 6'9''.

did you know sabonis has a 6-11 wingspan and TJD has a 7 foot wingspan ? ??

he is a shorter sabonis. Both have 5 man ability....adeboyo is 6-9...we talking modern nba.. and its not always height is how u play. tjd plays very big. name me a player who fits tjd style of play more then sabonis ? ........interesting per the tweet its who he patterns his game after. ......the better question is why would a sabonis type not be effetive at the 4 position if he were to play there ? Lets say he doesn't develop a 3 , he still stands to be a good player. .....guys with post games are going to be at a premium in following few years as the league finds ways to deal with the small ball style. TJD seems to have ability to move his feet on d, elite swatting ability....and post moves that are rare in todays league and a premium imo. Look at a guy like duren for the pistons he was 6-9 and doesn't have TJD's post moves or shooting at all. so i don't think height is a big thing. And people said duren has adeboyo passing ability - TJD had shown some some elite passing ability. I'm not seeing the amount of weaknesses or ones as glaring as others drafted above him......what are the weaknesses besides 3 ball and perhaps "fit" in modern nba to IMO I think is baloney and makes him more valuable.

Alex Golden
@AlexGoldenNBA
Trayce Jackson-Davis compared his game to Domantas Sabonis and Draymond Green, specifically for his passing ability and position flexibility to be either a 4 or a small ball 5.

[basketballwacko2]

How is he different then sabonis ? I mean seem to have pretty similar games. Sabonis better passer but....I see elbow....post moves....both college studs

Height being obvious difference. But he can play center. No real centers no adays

Do you mean how is he different "Than" Sabonis? He's a much better shot blocker, but a slightly shorter Sabonis is suppose to be 6'11'' and TJD is 6'9''.

did you know sabonis has a 6-11 wingspan and TJD has a 7 foot wingspan ? ??

he is a shorter sabonis. Both have 5 man ability....adeboyo is 6-9...we talking modern nba.. and its not always height is how u play. tjd plays very big. name me a player who fits tjd style of play more then sabonis ? ........interesting per the tweet its who he patterns his game after. ......the better question is why would a sabonis type not be effetive at the 4 position if he were to play there ? Lets say he doesn't develop a 3 , he still stands to be a good player. .....guys with post games are going to be at a premium in following few years as the league finds ways to deal with the small ball style. TJD seems to have ability to move his feet on d, elite swatting ability....and post moves that are rare in todays league and a premium imo. Look at a guy like duren for the pistons he was 6-9 and doesn't have TJD's post moves or shooting at all. so i don't think height is a big thing. And people said duren has adeboyo passing ability - TJD had shown some some elite passing ability. I'm not seeing the amount of weaknesses or ones as glaring as others drafted above him......what are the weaknesses besides 3 ball and perhaps "fit" in modern nba to IMO I think is baloney and makes him more valuable.

Alex Golden
@AlexGoldenNBA
Trayce Jackson-Davis compared his game to Domantas Sabonis and Draymond Green, specifically for his passing ability and position flexibility to be either a 4 or a small ball 5.

The Combine measurement on TJD Wingspan was 7'1'' only a slight difference. I think they could be similar players but Sabonis never blocked shots like TJD did in college. I think Trayce is a faster jumper with a more explosive step and leap 33-inch standing vertical leap. Don't get me wrong I love Sabonis I'm not saying TJD is better than him but may be a more explosive athlete. I couldn't find vertical leap numbers on Sabonis but I recall that was one of the knocks on him in the draft.

Trayce showed some elite passing at IU.

The story I've heard going around is that he told teams that if they wanted to sign him to a 2way contract that they should pass on him. It was seriously irritating to see the Pacers pass on him at 47 as if Jalen Smith or Isiah Jackson are better players. I would trade either of them immediately if I had him at 47 and give him a 4 year contract. I'm betting that the real reason the pacers passed was because they knew he would take minutes away from Walker who is no where near as polished as TJD.

[EvanZ]

I like TJD but I don't think he's that different functionally from what we saw with Jordan Bell a few years back. TJD is marginally bigger but I don't think he's a better athlete. Have to hope his BBIQ is much higher than Bell, but I thought Bell was actually a really good passer at Oregon. Just didn't work as a small ball 5 with GS. Hoping TJD is just a bit better than that, but realistically he fell to 57 and no other team wanted to give him a roster spot. He has his work cut out for him.

He's 99.9% better than Bell.

We really don't know that. I love how people ignore the past. The reaction after the Warriors got Bell by buying a second round pick was "OMG HOW DID THEY LET THE WARRIORS GET JORDAN BELL OMG OMG!!". Now we're going to pretend like that didn't happen? LOL

Bell was a good prospect at Oregon. Plenty of people, including myself, thought he'd be a good NBA player. He's similar sized to TJD, if a bit smaller. He's a better athlete than TJD. Was a really good passer at Oregon. We can't pretend now like he wasn't a good prospect, if we're going to be slobbering all over TJD's c***.

[EvanZ]

Do yourself a favor and go back and look at the Myers presser after we got Bell. Listen to how he described him. Go read the comments. We do this literally after every draft. We immediately start overhyping second round dudes until the reality hits. Just give it a rest. Let's see what we have with TJD before going off the deep end.

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[clyde21]

I like TJD but I don't think he's that different functionally from what we saw with Jordan Bell a few years back. TJD is marginally bigger but I don't think he's a better athlete. Have to hope his BBIQ is much higher than Bell, but I thought Bell was actually a really good passer at Oregon. Just didn't work as a small ball 5 with GS. Hoping TJD is just a bit better than that, but realistically he fell to 57 and no other team wanted to give him a roster spot. He has his work cut out for him.

He's 99.9% better than Bell.

We really don't know that. I love how people ignore the past. The reaction after the Warriors got Bell by buying a second round pick was "OMG HOW DID THEY LET THE WARRIORS GET JORDAN BELL OMG OMG!!". Now we're going to pretend like that didn't happen? LOL

Bell was a good prospect at Oregon. Plenty of people, including myself, thought he'd be a good NBA player. He's similar sized to TJD, if a bit smaller. He's a better athlete than TJD. Was a really good passer at Oregon. We can't pretend now like he wasn't a good prospect, if we're going to be slobbering all over TJD's c***.

i think Bell is a decent comp but don't remember him being generally ranked as high as TJD, also Bell wasn't really a name people were talking about since his freshmen season like TJD

Bell always seemed like an athlete playing bball instead of a bball player who was an athlete.

[crows2]

As Clyde said, the main difference between the two is that TJD was just a much better player than Bell throughout their college careers. He has far more on ball skills. That doesn't mean he'll succeed, as he still lacks in some areas, but Bell's failure certainly doesn't mean TJD will fail.

[EvanZ]

As Clyde said, the main difference between the two is that TJD was just a much better player than Bell throughout their college careers. He has far more on ball skills. That doesn't mean he'll succeed, as he still lacks in some areas, but Bell's failure certainly doesn't mean TJD will fail.

TJD was better his senior season. Jordan Bell had a 10.8 BPM in his third season at Oregon. TJD had an 11.6 BPM as a Junior. They were roughly equivalent productivity-wise through three seasons. Not a huge difference. I think there's some very selective memory going on here.

[Onus]

I think the biggest knock on Bell is that his defense didn't translate. He was never able to become an elite defender because he was late in rotation and was used to being able to make it up with his athleticism, but in the NBA he wasn't able to get as many blocks and steals.

[big-shot-ROB]

Everytime I feel I'm having recency bias I go back and look through Wikipedias' drafts pages. You calm down very easily lol.

Semi Ojeleye, Jabari Bird, Zizic and the board metldown for BOS not taking Deyonta Davis always helps me tone down on the expectations on anyone past 20+. They did it this year for me with Walsh already.

[EvanZ]

Yeah people get so hyped especially when they're newer to the draft game. I've mostly gotten the excitement beaten out of me by now seeing so many failures lol.