Nazrmohamed wrote:GONYK wrote:Nazrmohamed wrote:
That's exactly the model we took this yr, and the yr before.
The model was fine. We just executed it with very sh*tty players.
Doing it with good players that actually fit on the court together will yield better results.
I'll give you a thumbs up on that because I agree that other vets would've yielded better results but I'll explain what I meant.
You're a FA who wasn't the Knicjs first choice cause nobody significant wants to come to the Knicks. They put you on a 1 to 2 yr deal. On your first day you look around and realize you're surrounded by rookies and sophomores that you know you're more talented than.
How do you proceed? And remember its a one yr deal which means you probably have something to prove.
You know what you'd do, you'd ball out. Screw leadership, you gotta get paid. Screw fitting in, them rooks can fit in with you. Youre more talented than them. You should be the alpha dog.
And that's what happens over and over again with these short term deals. And you said better players. That only doubles down on what I just said. I agree better but better to me is defined as role players who play the right way and want to guide, teach, compliment.
Now if you wanna say F the whole thing and go get your next franchise star thats one thing. I still wanna build through the draft but in a way I'd rather forget the whole thing and grab an actual star than this tier 3 player who fiegns being a star because of his 1yr deal on a bad team. Either go all the way or just continue playing and developing youth. But to watch this treadmill of failed near stars attempt to fix thier image ain't helping our record or our team development.
You tell me. Who do you have in mind and I'll tell you how I feel. But even some of the role players turn into iso artists. I like Marcus Morris and thought he tried to bring some leadership in the toughness dept at first,. After 3 weeks he looked like Melo-lite.
FVV, Gallo/Bertans, DJ Augustin, Joe Harris, etc...
These guys who actually fit with our young players, and provide spacing, and playmaking.
I don't even think we need to give these guys 1 yr deals or bust. I think if we can get them on movable contracts, then you do it. I also think someone like FVV may even be worth investing in for a longer term. He's only 26, is a very good defender, and shoots ~40% from 3 on high volume. He's not ball dominant, and would definitely allow RJ, and even someone like Frank, to take more responsibility as a ballhandler.
Players like that you can scheme with and build a cohesive roster. Everyone looks better in that environment and the game becomes easier for our developing players.
I personally think tanking as a strategy is a pretty low value proposition at this point. Teams that win more like the Grizzlies, Pelicans, Bulls and Hornets are getting rewarded as much, if not more, than the teams who throw their season away. So let's build a cohesive roster, pump the value on some players, and build towards a winning product. A winning product means more of an asset base to work with.
