2021 Summer League

[Phenomenonsense]

On Sekou: sounds like training camp BS. But I sure hope not,

Well, its Sekou's third year, so its put up, or shut up time.

If I'm being honest, I've grown tired of him. I mean I hope he puts its together, but I'm not hopeful. Flashes going into your second year is one thing, third year? Get your **** together pal.

So I know I've stated this before but let's recap Sekou's offseasons as a Pistons:

1. Drafted June 20, 2019 as a clear project. 18 years old.
2. Plays in summer league starting July 13th before that season but like all rookies really doesn't get much preparation before the season starts.
3. Largely ignored for much of the first half of the season until injuries forced him into action right after the New Year
4. Covid hits. Season ends early for the Pistons.
5. 2020 offseason spent trying to be with family and just figure out what to do in covid. No organized activities. No sustained development.
6. 2021 season - No G League. Sekou has difficulty finding sustained playing time; struggles at times and loses confidence but regains it slightly by the end of the season as he starts to do more at what he is naturally good at.

So he was a project coming into his first year and really hasn't had an offseason to work on skills.
He had one G League season again when he was very young but nothing after that.

He's still only 20 years old.

I'd agree with the Get your **** together pal comment if it was a polished player (not a project) who had all of the standard development assistance his first couple of years in the league. Neither is true in Sekou's case.

I won't start saying that until after this season.

Whether Sekou had or didn't have any developmental assistance, these are very important years for a project player to build skills, and even though it is unfair, he didn't develop them. It puts him behind another year, makes him another year closer to his prime. It has likely stunted his growth if Sekou comes into next year the same player he was. I'm willing to give him this year, and might even take him on his QO contract, but I'm firmly in the "not expecting anything" camp.

[Invictus88]

Well, its Sekou's third year, so its put up, or shut up time.

If I'm being honest, I've grown tired of him. I mean I hope he puts its together, but I'm not hopeful. Flashes going into your second year is one thing, third year? Get your **** together pal.

So I know I've stated this before but let's recap Sekou's offseasons as a Pistons:

1. Drafted June 20, 2019 as a clear project. 18 years old.
2. Plays in summer league starting July 13th before that season but like all rookies really doesn't get much preparation before the season starts.
3. Largely ignored for much of the first half of the season until injuries forced him into action right after the New Year
4. Covid hits. Season ends early for the Pistons.
5. 2020 offseason spent trying to be with family and just figure out what to do in covid. No organized activities. No sustained development.
6. 2021 season - No G League. Sekou has difficulty finding sustained playing time; struggles at times and loses confidence but regains it slightly by the end of the season as he starts to do more at what he is naturally good at.

So he was a project coming into his first year and really hasn't had an offseason to work on skills.
He had one G League season again when he was very young but nothing after that.

He's still only 20 years old.

I'd agree with the Get your **** together pal comment if it was a polished player (not a project) who had all of the standard development assistance his first couple of years in the league. Neither is true in Sekou's case.

I won't start saying that until after this season.

Whether Sekou had or didn't have any developmental assistance, these are very important years for a project player to build skills, and even though it is unfair, he didn't develop them. It puts him behind another year, makes him another year closer to his prime. It has likely stunted his growth if Sekou comes into next year the same player he was. I'm willing to give him this year, and might even take him on his QO contract, but I'm firmly in the "not expecting anything" camp.

I think we are fairly close in opinions except I don't see him behind schedule at all. He's a 20 year old project with little actual development time; as opposed to a 24-year old 2 years out from being drafted out of college.

This year is huge for him though. I think we all agree on that.

[Moses ShamMoses]

I think its fair to expect Sekou to take a fairly big step forward this year if he wants to remain with the team. I don't think anyone thinks he's a finished product or anything, but fair or not he needs to show something.

[chrbal]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/5503903001

So Tyler Cook and Deividas Sirvydis, among others, will be part of the summer league roster, so I’m guessing they both wind up with the Cruise. It’s nice to see us finally attempting to take the g league seriously.

[Kilo]

I can't wait until G-League is a traditional minor league where all players are contracted to the NBA team. It will be so much better for development.

[bkseven]

Cade listed as 6'6

https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2021/8/5/22611827/detroit-pistons-summer-league-schedule-and-roster

[Phenomenonsense]

Cade listed as 6'6

https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2021/8/5/22611827/detroit-pistons-summer-league-schedule-and-roster

Thought he was a little under 6'8". At only 6'6" we should demand a recount and redraft.

[bkseven]

Cade listed as 6'6

https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2021/8/5/22611827/detroit-pistons-summer-league-schedule-and-roster

Thought he was a little under 6'8". At only 6'6" we should demand a recount and redraft.

Already ordered my Cade jersey and shirt. They should have been nice to us and at least rounded it to 6'7 since I think I saw he's closer to that than 6'6.

[Phenomenonsense]

Yeah he seemed to be nearly as tall as Livers

[ComboGuardCity]

He’s 6’8 if you measure the top of his hair

[mattao313]

Cade listed as 6'6

https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2021/8/5/22611827/detroit-pistons-summer-league-schedule-and-roster

Thought he was a little under 6'8". At only 6'6" we should demand a recount and redraft.

Oh boy waiting for the height doesn't matter crowd to come and have a field day.

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[whitehops]

Cade listed as 6'6

https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2021/8/5/22611827/detroit-pistons-summer-league-schedule-and-roster

yeah that's what i thought he would measure at once you saw the pics of him standing next to other players (like livers). 6'6 in real height but 6'7 in "traditional" NBA height.

for reference lebron clocked in at 6'7.25" at the nba combine, both jimmy butler and kawhi leonard clocked in at 6'6 at their combine, etc.

[mattao313]

Cade listed as 6'6

https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2021/8/5/22611827/detroit-pistons-summer-league-schedule-and-roster

yeah that's what i thought he would measure at once you saw the pics of him standing next to other players (like livers). 6'6 in real height but 6'7 in "traditional" NBA height.

for reference lebron clocked in at 6'7.25" at the nba combine, both jimmy butler and kawhi leonard clocked in at 6'6 at their combine, etc.

Don't they round up? He maybe shorter than that.

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[bkseven]

Cade listed as 6'6

https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2021/8/5/22611827/detroit-pistons-summer-league-schedule-and-roster

yeah that's what i thought he would measure at once you saw the pics of him standing next to other players (like livers). 6'6 in real height but 6'7 in "traditional" NBA height.

for reference lebron clocked in at 6'7.25" at the nba combine, both jimmy butler and kawhi leonard clocked in at 6'6 at their combine, etc.

Don't they round up? He maybe shorter than that.

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Uh don’t think they round down

[whitehops]

Don't they round up? He maybe shorter than that.

he could be, but he could also be 6'.25".

[bstein14]

Portland Trailblazers are betting odds favorites to win the summer league, being headlined by Kenneth Farried and Michael Beasley.

Detroit, NY Knicks, and Miami Heat are all tied for 2nd best odds at 12/1.

Betting $100 on the Pistons to win summer league for a chance to win $1200 might just be worth it... I would have thought they would win for sure if they were also going to have Stewart, but with him not there its certainly a bit more up in the air.

[chrbal]

Portland Trailblazers are betting odds favorites to win the summer league, being headlined by Kenneth Farried and Michael Beasley.

Detroit, NY Knicks, and Miami Heat are all tied for 2nd best odds at 12/1.

Betting $100 on the Pistons to win summer league for a chance to win $1200 might just be worth it... I would have thought they would win for sure if they were also going to have Stewart, but with him not there its certainly a bit more up in the air.

Portland has them and Emmanuel Mudiay on their summer league team. I read your post and had to research. I’m honestly partially shocked and partially wondering what’s the point.

Either way their g league affiliate will be the somewhat entertaining to watch. Or a disaster

[The Moose]

yeah that's what i thought he would measure at once you saw the pics of him standing next to other players (like livers). 6'6 in real height but 6'7 in "traditional" NBA height.

for reference lebron clocked in at 6'7.25" at the nba combine, both jimmy butler and kawhi leonard clocked in at 6'6 at their combine, etc.

Don't they round up? He maybe shorter than that.

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Uh don’t think they round down

John Petty Jr just measured 6'5.75" in shoes at the combine last month and they have him listed at 6'5, Garza measured 6'11.25" in shoes at the combine they have listed at 6'11.

The measurements are all over the place, they appear to be barefoot height measurements rounded up

[Scout Taron]

Don't they round up? He maybe shorter than that.

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Uh don’t think they round down

John Petty Jr just measured 6'5.75" in shoes at the combine last month and they have him listed at 6'5, Garza measured 6'11.25" in shoes at the combine they have listed at 6'11.

The measurements are all over the place, they appear to be barefoot height measurements rounded up

Yeah, NBA official measurements since 2019 are barefoot measurements rounded to the nearest whole number.

[buzzkilloton]

Yeah with all the pics I've seen I could already tell he wasnt 6'8. Standing next to the commish etc. The length is legit anyways as he measured 7ft wingspan at a camp in 2019 that isnt bs, he was 6'5 at the time. Seems he hasnt grown much since then which means unlikely we see much more growth. I'm sure Weaver knew this when he took him.

6'6 does sound a little less enticing then a 6'8 ball handler so I get why Okstate had fibbed it. Its not uncommon for players to BS heights. The NBA makes them post legit heights now they made a rule years back they used to all lie.