***Official Nets 2021-22 Training Camp/Preseason Thread***

[Prokorov]

Figured id separate out the State Vaccine Mandate/Kyrie/Political wormhole stuff from the basketball stuff. So please use this space from basketball related training camp discussion only. I'll start us off with some talking points:

-Claxton's extension. would be 4/52. do we dish it out now? there is a roster crunch as is and moving him may make the most basketball + financial sense from a team perspective. (I vote hell no personally)

-Who gets cut/traded from the NBA roster: Sekou, Bembry, Claxton, Johnson, Other? One body needs to go whether its cut or a trade/consolidation trade. What is interesting is all have been announced by the team and are in camp speaking as if they are with the team for good.

-Who gets the last 2-way deal? Duke? one of the second rounders?

-Which old dude looks like he is gonna find the fountain of youth? Aldridge? Milsap? Blake for the 2nd time? James Johnson

-Patty Mills... just let lose and overreact to him being the biggest steal of free agency

I don't see Sekou making the roster unless he's bring something substantial to the table. The feedback that i got back from Pistons fans was not what i was hoping to hear.

Yeah, that is certainly one of the more probably outcomes.

Still with we didnt sign LMA. id rather a young guy get his spot and Claxton his minutes. will be interesting for sure. in most cases these seem like tough choices but eventually injuries help make it easier

[MGrand15]

I normally would love to see someone like Sekou at the end of the roster. Super young. Big athletic 4. We could let him develop in the G League and hope he turns into a good defender. The roster is just so stacked right now. Thomas, Sharpe, Edwards, Duke, and Sekou is probably too many young guys for a team like ours though. I kinda like all of them too.

Random thing but Claxton said he weighs 225 now. He came into the draft at 217. I don't know if it's good or bad but our staff is SUPER conservative with getting guys to bulk up. I'm all for speed but 225 isn't enough.

[MrDollarBills]

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yeah defense needs to be the #1 priority.

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It's crazy to think that Sunday the Nets are back

[MrDollarBills]

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[Prokorov]

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I wonder how many practices the nets have where KD just doesnt miss a shot.

[Prokorov]

I normally would love to see someone like Sekou at the end of the roster. Super young. Big athletic 4. We could let him develop in the G League and hope he turns into a good defender. The roster is just so stacked right now. Thomas, Sharpe, Edwards, Duke, and Sekou is probably too many young guys for a team like ours though. I kinda like all of them too.

Random thing but Claxton said he weighs 225 now. He came into the draft at 217. I don't know if it's good or bad but our staff is SUPER conservative with getting guys to bulk up. I'm all for speed but 225 isn't enough.

i dont think we can assign sekou to the G-league. we would have to release him, he would have to sign a G-league contract and we would lose his rights.

his NBA minimum is like 2 times the G-league contract and someone would give him the minimum

[ecuhus1981]

I normally would love to see someone like Sekou at the end of the roster. Super young. Big athletic 4. We could let him develop in the G League and hope he turns into a good defender. The roster is just so stacked right now. Thomas, Sharpe, Edwards, Duke, and Sekou is probably too many young guys for a team like ours though. I kinda like all of them too.

Random thing but Claxton said he weighs 225 now. He came into the draft at 217. I don't know if it's good or bad but our staff is SUPER conservative with getting guys to bulk up. I'm all for speed but 225 isn't enough.

i dont think we can assign sekou to the G-league. we would have to release him, he would have to sign a G-league contract and we would lose his rights.

his NBA minimum is like 2 times the G-league contract and someone would give him the minimum

We most certainly can send him to the G League, he has less than 3 years of NBA experience. After 3 full seasons, then players can decline if a team wants to send them down.

But yes, even if we send him down, he still counts as an NBA roster spot. So, demoting / assigning him doesn't solve our numbers crunch.

[Prokorov]

I normally would love to see someone like Sekou at the end of the roster. Super young. Big athletic 4. We could let him develop in the G League and hope he turns into a good defender. The roster is just so stacked right now. Thomas, Sharpe, Edwards, Duke, and Sekou is probably too many young guys for a team like ours though. I kinda like all of them too.

Random thing but Claxton said he weighs 225 now. He came into the draft at 217. I don't know if it's good or bad but our staff is SUPER conservative with getting guys to bulk up. I'm all for speed but 225 isn't enough.

i dont think we can assign sekou to the G-league. we would have to release him, he would have to sign a G-league contract and we would lose his rights.

his NBA minimum is like 2 times the G-league contract and someone would give him the minimum

We most certainly can send him to the G League, he has less than 3 years of NBA experience. After 3 full seasons, then players can decline if a team wants to send them down.

But yes, even if we send him down, he still counts as an NBA roster spot. So, demoting / assigning him doesn't solve our numbers crunch.

I assumed the above reference to sending him to the G-league was meant as converting him to a g-league contract thus not using an NBA spot. as far as just sending him to the G-league your right he can spend time there.

for me its about the roster crunch. no indiciation from players/team who isnt there to stay. all the fringe guys are talking like they are ready to rock with the nets this year, not compete for a spot

[MrDollarBills]

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[MGrand15]

I normally would love to see someone like Sekou at the end of the roster. Super young. Big athletic 4. We could let him develop in the G League and hope he turns into a good defender. The roster is just so stacked right now. Thomas, Sharpe, Edwards, Duke, and Sekou is probably too many young guys for a team like ours though. I kinda like all of them too.

Random thing but Claxton said he weighs 225 now. He came into the draft at 217. I don't know if it's good or bad but our staff is SUPER conservative with getting guys to bulk up. I'm all for speed but 225 isn't enough.

i dont think we can assign sekou to the G-league. we would have to release him, he would have to sign a G-league contract and we would lose his rights.

his NBA minimum is like 2 times the G-league contract and someone would give him the minimum

Yeah I know. I'm saying in a normal year - we'd just assign him to the G League using a regular roster spot and let him develop from there. Kind of like we did with Musa, Claxton, etc. It would be cool to have a young raw player getting experience. The roster is so stacked now - it's not really a realistic option. Especially with all the other young players we have who are probably already better than him.

[MrDollarBills]

Looks like Harden's contract will be a looming issue this season by the media:

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I'd prefer that he be locked in now, but I guess even he needs to see how this season goes. If my memory serves me correctly, he stands to make more money by waiting til next summer.

[Prokorov]

Looks like Harden's contract will be a looming issue this season by the media:

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I'd prefer that he be locked in now, but I guess even he needs to see how this season goes. If my memory serves me correctly, he stands to make more money by waiting til next summer.

Marks really missed the ball on this one. you dont make such a difinitive statement about locking up all 3 by training camp if thats not signed sealed and delivered.

This sucks, media piranhas will just use this to make up junk they are all unhappy and hate eachother

[MrDollarBills]

Looks like Harden's contract will be a looming issue this season by the media:

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I'd prefer that he be locked in now, but I guess even he needs to see how this season goes. If my memory serves me correctly, he stands to make more money by waiting til next summer.

Marks really missed the ball on this one. you dont make such a difinitive statement about locking up all 3 by training camp if thats not signed sealed and delivered.

This sucks, media piranhas will just use this to make up junk they are all unhappy and hate eachother

they seemed pretty happy yesterday.

Either way, its moot. Harden saying he's focusing on winning a championship this year is all I need to hear

[HardenGoat]

If he wins a chip he will resign guaranteed.

[Paradise]

Harden is going to re-sign in the off-season but he’s never once took free agent meetings in his career and this is likely last max contract.

Harden could sign a three-year, $161.1 million extension on top of his 22-23 season, or also sign a five-year, $235 million deal during the 2022 offseason.

There project to be very few teams with cap space in 2022 and none currently enough to sign Harden to his current number.

[Prokorov]

I have no doubt harden will sign. but WTF is marks making guarantees on this stuff by training camp if its not set in stone?

He has to know media vultures are waiting for ANY shred of meat they can to write a hit piece on the big 3. It wont be long before harden hates kyrie, friction with KD/Harden, Harden wants more scoring and is leaving the door open... etc...

[MrDollarBills]

Hey Rich and Nyce can you merge me and Prok's threads together? thanks. Everything is strictly focusing on Sunday night versus the Lakers from here on out

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Some news I saw off of NetsDaily about how camp is going:

https://www.netsdaily.com/2021/9/30/22702061/nets-led-by-kevin-durant-bonding-in-san-diego

Thomas continues to impress his coach and teammates. Nash said Wednesday the key to Thomas development will be not “giving away days” even if he’s not in the rotation or playing on a given night. Bruce Brown is also on the Thomas bandwagon.

Jevon Carter has proved more skilled and a better shooter than Nash expected, the head coach told the media. Indeed, the 26-year-old shot 39.7 percent from deep in his two years with the Suns. Carter has also shown his defensive chops.

DeAndre’ Bembry has been a “disruptor” on defense, according to Nash. That’s a big reason why he was signed.

Both Joe Harris and Nic Claxton have given Kyle Korver, the new player development assistant and shooting coach, good reviews with Harris, the NBA leader in 3-point shooting over the last three seasons, saying he’d helped him “just being a more of an efficient mover into my shots.”

I don't think there's any surprises here. We saw that Cam has something in him, its up to Nash and company to mold that into an NBA player.

JC being a 3 + D guard is going to pay dividends for us, and no shock about Bembry. These two guys combined with JJ are our pitbulls that we can mix and match with our main rotation. Nash has an absolute treasure trove of talent at his finger tips.

Also, I forgot that we have Kyle Korver, who is just a fantastic human being as he was a shooter, on our staff. If he's helping Claxton with his jumper that could prove to be huge.

I can barely contain how excited I am about this team. We've got the best player in the world, James Harden and Kyrie being flanked by a solid group of veterans and some defensive dogs. Bring on Milwaukee, I want their heads on pikes Game of Thrones style

[MGrand15]

The extension stuff is a non-story. Harden can make more money by waiting so it's not like this is hanging over our heads. We offer a big market, a championship contender, the most money available, and a player friendly coach. The only media distraction at the moment is Kyrie. Everything else is going beautifully for the organization.

Should be interesting to see if Korver can actually help on the staff. There's only 2 numbers we need to look at - Claxton's FT shooting and Harris' FT shooting. Both need to improve. Blake being a better FT shooter than Joe just makes no sense. There was even a point last year where Joe changed his routine mid-season.

[Rich Rane]

No game threads until regular season please.

[MrDollarBills]

The extension stuff is a non-story. Harden can make more money by waiting so it's not like this is hanging over our heads. We offer a big market, a championship contender, the most money available, and a player friendly coach. The only media distraction at the moment is Kyrie. Everything else is going beautifully for the organization.

Should be interesting to see if Korver can actually help on the staff. There's only 2 numbers we need to look at - Claxton's FT shooting and Harris' FT shooting. Both need to improve. Blake being a better FT shooter than Joe just makes no sense. There was even a point last year where Joe changed his routine mid-season.

100% mental with Joe and FTs imo.

Harden can make up to 60 mil a year if he waits i read. Papa Joe will gladly pay up