eminence wrote:Commodor wrote:eminence wrote:
Yeah, no idea what finals that guy watched, he was 5th in minutes and #2 on the Suns.
I’m curious what commodor would offer, the starting point is obviously Wiseman+
Sorry I guess should have specified whenever Giannis went in, Ayton was a liability. He did have a lot of minutes but from what I remember he was pretty unplayable whenever the Bucks moved Giannis inside. He played a ton in the first two games prior to the bucks making that adjustment and then his numbers dropped across the board.
As for my hypothetical deal I agree you have to start with Wiseman but I am in the camp that Ayton is not worth max money so overall it's a pass. I think it should be a pretty big flag that PHX doesn't feel he is worth it too. The original deal does too little to alleviate the salary situation while decimating GSW depth. It's too late to go vet-min hunting so any injuries would be catastrophic. It would need to be expanded out to include one of the other 4 big contracts, likely Wiggins, which would then need a playable SF coming back. That would get too complex pretty quick.
Entertaining the idea that GSW would want him, I think the follow up proposal leaving out Kuminga is probably the most GSW offers but I just do not see a max Ayton with Curry-Klay-Wiggins-Draymond's contracts on the books.
Not wanting to extend Ayton ourselves is a fine reason as well. If ownership said no I wouldn't deal for him.
I don't buy the depth argument. None of the youth currently project to be in the rotation at all (Wiseman probably will be once he comes back, but that's more due to draft spot than anything else - based on play he doesn't deserve any of the Looney or Bjelica minutes).
None of this matters since IF the Suns were to trade him, you can guarantee that the Dubs would near the bottom of the list along with both LA teams.
Warrior fans even thinking they have a shot at that trade are crazy. He's not getting moved in the division .
