Steph Curry is +500 for Mvp

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Re: Steph Curry is +500 for Mvp 

Post#61 » by DroseReturnChi » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:35 am

life_saver wrote:Considering Curry's injury history, it definitely isn't even close to a lock


while +500 is a good bet, saying its a lock is foolish. if its that easy why not put mortgage money to the most injury prone guy?
rather do ja morant and doncic if their pay is way better.
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Re: Steph Curry is +500 for Mvp 

Post#62 » by poultryfan » Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:06 am

reload141 wrote:GSP making a lot of people look stupid so far.

The lock thing is a little exaggerated lol but you're right. Draftkings currently has Curry at +135 to win MVP so if you got in it +500 then you made a fantastic bet. Went from 42.6% to 16.7% break even. Doesn't even matter what the hold is at this point.

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Post#63 » by styLesdavis » Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:26 am

There is no "lock" für MVP at this point of the season.

IF Jokic gets back healthy and the Nuggets win about 50-55+ games AND the joker
continues to dominate like he did before: the only LOCK is Jokic at a 35.22 PER.
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Post#64 » by BoatsNZones » Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:09 am

styLesdavis wrote:There is no "lock" für MVP at this point of the season.

IF Jokic gets back healthy and the Nuggets win about 50-55+ games AND the joker
continues to dominate like he did before: the only LOCK is Jokic at a 35.22 PER.

There are many stats that are effectively “broken” due to high rebounding players who can now pass and hit some threes. I love me some Jokic (I consider him a top 3 player having a top 3 season), but his PER and some associated stats are a bit of a running joke at this point. KAT to a lesser extent has been similarly massively overrated by certain catch all metrics for some time now. Westbrook was another example.

No, Jokic is not having the best per minute season in NBA history, I assure you.
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Re: Steph Curry is +500 for Mvp 

Post#65 » by Saint Lazarus » Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:27 am

DroseReturnChi wrote:
life_saver wrote:Considering Curry's injury history, it definitely isn't even close to a lock


while +500 is a good bet, saying its a lock is foolish. if its that easy why not put mortgage money to the most injury prone guy?
rather do ja morant and doncic if their pay is way better.


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Re: Steph Curry is +500 for Mvp 

Post#66 » by DNP - Old » Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:13 am

0/11 4th quarter FG for the last 3 games? Definitely not mvp, duh.
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Post#67 » by styLesdavis » Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:55 am

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styLesdavis wrote:There is no "lock" für MVP at this point of the season.

IF Jokic gets back healthy and the Nuggets win about 50-55+ games AND the joker
continues to dominate like he did before: the only LOCK is Jokic at a 35.22 PER.

There are many stats that are effectively “broken” due to high rebounding players who can now pass and hit some threes. I love me some Jokic (I consider him a top 3 player having a top 3 season), but his PER and some associated stats are a bit of a running joke at this point. KAT to a lesser extent has been similarly massively overrated by certain catch all metrics for some time now. Westbrook was another example.

No, Jokic is not having the best per minute season in NBA history, I assure you.


There is a fine line between "best per minute season in HISTORY" and "MVP candidate". I argued for the latter.
Plus the PER Stats are adjusted every season for such things as increased numbers in certain statistics.

Russell Westbrook for example never got higher than a 25.0 in PER during his last five seasons. Towns highest was 26.5 - about 23 during his last two years. I think its fair to say that both are nowhere near Jokic.
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Re: Steph Curry is +500 for Mvp 

Post#68 » by Warriorfan » Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:56 am

Best player on best team that may only have 1 all star is usually a good bet for MVP.

At this pt you still bet the field. Curry can still improve since he is shooting below his career avgs

Bonus Curry is playing some of the best defense of any starting guard
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Post#69 » by art_tatum » Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:16 am

I feel like the media wants to give it to someone other than jokic. So most likely KD or Steph.
So i think it's a lock for Steph given their record and where people thought they would be in the summer , but I'm hesitant on putting money down just bc of any freak accidents.
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Post#70 » by KGtabake » Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:50 am

My bet for Steph as MVP, Giannis as DPOY and Mobley as ROTY looks great at the moment.
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Post#71 » by Godymas » Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:49 am

it's going to be Steph

the Warriors are gonna be a 60+ win team this year, he's pretty much going to get it unless some catastrophic injury happens but Steph's conditioning is kind of underrated by the community as a whole.

But with that said, Jokic at +900 now, honestly not a bad bet still because he is playing THAT well still. Jokic will get MVP votes if he stays healthy too, he could repeat he is playing well enough and historically great enough to do so
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Post#72 » by oldschooled » Mon Nov 29, 2021 2:03 pm

Steph looks like he's running away with this barring major injuries. Stats, best record, narrative all points to Steph winning. I'll hedge with Giannis if i'd bet Steph atm.
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Re: Steph Curry is +500 for Mvp 

Post#73 » by DroseReturnChi » Mon Nov 29, 2021 2:27 pm

oldschooled wrote:Steph looks like he's running away with this barring major injuries. Stats, best record, narrative all points to Steph winning. I'll hedge with Giannis if i'd bet Steph atm.


no one is doubting steph if hes healthy but thats a big gamble like 50% he busts with acl. he could easily pull mpj.
if hes +500 i would bet but not 100% would hedge on giannis, luka, joker.
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Post#74 » by TwoStarz » Mon Nov 29, 2021 2:30 pm

DroseReturnChi wrote:
oldschooled wrote:Steph looks like he's running away with this barring major injuries. Stats, best record, narrative all points to Steph winning. I'll hedge with Giannis if i'd bet Steph atm.


no one is doubting steph if hes healthy but thats a big gamble like 50% he busts with acl. he could easily pull mpj.
if hes +500 i would bet but not 100% would hedge on giannis, luka, joker.

Do you read your posts? You contradict yourself so much in just one sentence and you manage to do it again, again, again, again.... you get the point.

Honestly, how old are you? Or is English very clearly not your first language?
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Post#75 » by matt6715 » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:18 pm

If Steph stays healthy and the Warriors win 55+ games, its an easy lock.
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Post#76 » by dhsilv2 » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:53 pm

matt6715 wrote:If Steph stays healthy and the Warriors win 55+ games, its an easy lock.


To go 55-27 they'd be 37-27 the rest of the way, that might almost work against Curry because of how much recency bias the league has.
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Post#77 » by WarriorGM » Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:19 pm

Warriorfan wrote:Best player on best team that may only have 1 all star is usually a good bet for MVP.

At this pt you still bet the field. Curry can still improve since he is shooting below his career avgs

Bonus Curry is playing some of the best defense of any starting guard


You still take the field? I guess the Suns are still within striking distance and can throw a spanner in the works for the Dubs. If the Warriors get by the Suns though, short of an injury to Steph, the paths for other contenders start to disappear. Without negative players weighing him down Steph has been cruising on a 60-65 win pace during the healthy seasons of his prime and I don't really see how that is going to change with this current team around him given what we've seen so far.
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Re: Steph Curry is +500 for Mvp 

Post#78 » by whatisacenter » Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:28 pm

DNP - Old wrote:0/11 4th quarter FG for the last 3 games? Definitely not mvp, duh.


you might have missed his last three games...
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Re: Steph Curry is +500 for Mvp 

Post#79 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:54 pm

Warriors are too good right now. Hard to see Steph not getting it with this record.

Even if they fall behind the Suns they will have a 60+ win record. I don't think the Nets can catch them.

With that being said, Steph is extremely injury prone. If he misses 10+ games then it could very well go to KD or Giannis.
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Post#80 » by BoatsNZones » Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:20 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Warriors are too good right now. Hard to see Steph not getting it with this record.

Even if they fall behind the Suns they will have a 60+ win record. I don't think the Nets can catch them.

With that being said, Steph is extremely injury prone. If he misses 10+ games then it could very well go to KD or Giannis.

I mean, I would be more concerned about a potential KD injury than one to Steph. He is more durable than he’s given credit for (worth mentioning that in both the seasons that he missed most of the year they were actively tanking and kept him out as a precaution to go along with the tank).

Also worth mentioning that Giannis missed 10+ games in both his MVP seasons, and Harden missed 10 in his MVP season the year before that as well. In Curry’s MVP’s he played all but a couple games. Obviously injuries are always going to factor in MVP voting though (in Jokic’s case, to his teammates).

Current line has Curry at +125 with KD second at +550. Seems about right.

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