Challenge: Create a Westbrook trade

[Yenrallik1111]

westbrook for cp3 seems interesting. suns can disolve their finals team to get under tax and sale tickets. cp3 banana boat.

i made a trade idea around this. did not really gain traction

I just don't get why the suns would do this

The suns just signed him lol

Unless they think the contract will become an albatross and they want him for really a year and then figure it out from there

Maybe if both teams flail out early I can see it in the summer?

my idea was under the assumption WB continues to not fit in and the suns underperform compared to last season

[LAL1947]

I think the only hope the Lakers have of trading Westbrook and getting something out of it, is if OKC decides to bring him back for legacy reasons and is okay giving up minor assets to do that.

Apart from that, I could see another Westbrook for Wall trade happening... maybe... or a trade for Kevin Love.

[nzahir]

I think the only hope the Lakers have of trading Westbrook and getting something out of it, is if OKC decides to bring him back for legacy reasons and is okay giving up minor assets to do that.

Apart from that, I could see another Westbrook for Wall trade happening... maybe... or a trade for Kevin Love.

I don't know what Wall really does for us though

I would want House at least if not some 2nds

Why LA does it:

Wall could maybe be convinced to run the bench unit, unlike Russ
Get some 2nds for another move or add House

Why Hou does it:
Russ could have a hot ending to the year and get moved in the summer as an expiring
Help out Wall, agents appreciate these things

I don't know why OKC would do it, we don't have much to give them back. Would need to give them 2-3 of our wiz 2nds at least

Now we have a nice Trade exception to use

[Laimbeer]

Westbrook for Russell and Beverley. Wolves need a shakeup.

[Eric Bieniemy]

Westbrook, Tucker, Nunn, and Ellington
for
Horford, Smart, Richardson, and Schroder

PG - Westbrook - Tucker
SG - Ellington - Nunn
C - Williams - Kanter
PF - Tatum - (tall PF/C)
SF - Brown - Ellington/Tucker

PG - James - Rondo
SG - Bradley - Monk
C - Davis - Howard
PF - Horford - Anthony
SF - Smart - Reaves

[nzahir]

Westbrook for Russell and Beverley. Wolves need a shakeup.

I would be in 100% and also add in those Wizards 2nds and our own 2nds if needed

But I think Minny turns this down, but they do need a change it looks like

D'lo cant ever stay healthy, he isn't really a true pg either and I think losing every year weights on you (for KAT)

At least make us take on the excess salary of Prince and send them Nunn if they want

I would also do

Prince, Beasley and Beverly for Russ, Monk/Ellington, and multiple 2nds

Wolves have a rotation of
KAT, Russ, D'lo, Edwards, Vanderbuilt, Jordan McLaughlin, Okogie, Reid, Monk/Ellington

They would need to make another move or 2 for wings or sign guys like Ennis and RHJ

Lakers:
Beverly, Beasley, Ariza, Bron, AD
Nunn, Bazemore, THT, Melo, Dwight
Rondo, Reaves, Ellington/Monk, Prince, DJ

Much better team than we currently have

Maybe a 3rd team gets involved to take on Beasley or Beverly and send some value to Minny

[Karmaloop]

Seems basically impossible

Pretty much. Any Westbrook deal going out would need a PG coming back, preferably one who can shoot the ball reasonably well. But then there's the bigger issue that you need to match salaries too.

[zimpy27]

It's very tough. Lakers would want something very good to come back from Westbrook. They won't give him up for many of these offers.

I don't think it's realistic. Next year he becomes a massive expiring that some teams may want.

[nzahir]

Seems basically impossible

Pretty much. Any Westbrook deal going out would need a PG coming back, preferably one who can shoot the ball reasonably well. But then there's the bigger issue that you need to match salaries too.

We don't need to have a great pg coming back necessarily

I think Nunn could start considering Lebron will have the ball in his hands most of the time

Then Rondo and THT could be the bench ball handlers

It would be preferred, but wouldn't mike a mix of some combo guards and forwards

[shangrila]

Westbrook for Russell and Beverley. Wolves need a shakeup.

I would be in 100% and also add in those Wizards 2nds and our own 2nds if needed

But I think Minny turns this down, but they do need a change it looks like

D'lo cant ever stay healthy, he isn't really a true pg either and I think losing every year weights on you (for KAT)

At least make us take on the excess salary of Prince and send them Nunn if they want

I would also do

Prince, Beasley and Beverly for Russ, Monk/Ellington, and multiple 2nds

Wolves have a rotation of
KAT, Russ, D'lo, Edwards, Vanderbuilt, Jordan McLaughlin, Okogie, Reid, Monk/Ellington

They would need to make another move or 2 for wings or sign guys like Ennis and RHJ

Lakers:
Beverly, Beasley, Ariza, Bron, AD
Nunn, Bazemore, THT, Melo, Dwight
Rondo, Reaves, Ellington/Monk, Prince, DJ

Much better team than we currently have

Maybe a 3rd team gets involved to take on Beasley or Beverly and send some value to Minny

Just for fun I came up with this monstrosity;

MIN gives; Patrick Beverley, Taurean Prince, Jake Layman, Josh Okogie, Malik Beasley
MIN gets; Russell Westbrook, Jalen Brunson, picks (fanspo has Lakers picks available from '25 onwards. I feel that's wrong, though if it's right a future maybe top 4 protected pick would be good. Otherwise, all the 2nds)

LAL gives; Russell Westbrook, picks
LAL gets; Pat Beverley, Taurean Prince, Jake Layman, Josh Okogie, Reggie Bullock

DAL gives; Reggie Bullock, Jalen Brunson
DAL gets; Malik Beasley

Reason - Wolves add a "star" without touching their "big 3" and manage to shave about 4 mil off their salary, which is nice since they're already butting against the lux.

The Lakers get tons of depth and get out from a ton of money (everyone except for Bullock is expiring)...but they'll have to cut 4 guys to fit everyone (I think). But that can be done with Bazemore, Ellington, Ariza and someone else.

Dallas upgrades on Bullock with Beasley, who's significantly younger and better career-wise. Basically another young shooter to play off of Luka, though it costs them Brunson (if they want a replacement the Wolves could send them McLaughlin. He's sucked so far but was fairly good the last 2 years).

[zimpy27]

Seems basically impossible

Pretty much. Any Westbrook deal going out would need a PG coming back, preferably one who can shoot the ball reasonably well. But then there's the bigger issue that you need to match salaries too.

We don't need to have a great pg coming back necessarily

I think Nunn could start considering Lebron will have the ball in his hands most of the time

Then Rondo and THT could be the bench ball handlers

It would be preferred, but wouldn't mike a mix of some combo guards and forwards

I think Spurs could be interesting.. McDermott, Forbes, White have been underwhelming this season so far. Murray is a Klutch guy. Collins has been yet to play. Thad has a high salary. Spurs are well under tax.
Spurs are struggling and likely want to get to the playoffs under Pop again.

If it wasn't that the Spurs don't like trading with Lakers I think it could be realistic.

Maybe Westbrook, Monk, Ariza, LAL27FRP for White, McDermott, Forbes, Collins

Nunn, White, Melo, LeBron, Davis -- Rondo, Reaves, THT, McDermott, Howard

Westbrook, Murray, Vassell, Keldon, Poeltl -- Lonnie, Monk, Keita, Ariza, Young

[Henesey]

I think they are riding out the Westbrook experiment this year hoping that he improves in the second half of the season, he will be easier to 'trade' (more so dump) as an expiring next season.

Would Orlando be interested in him for some draft capital? I haven't seen anyone suggest this yet...

Orlando in: Westbrook, 23 2nd, 24 2nd, 25 2nd, 27 2nd, 27 1st
Lakers in: Harris, Fultz, T Ross

They would get off the Fultz Contract (Negative) and it's not like Harris/Ross have much value.

[Brandon-Clyde]

I think they are riding out the Westbrook experiment this year hoping that he improves in the second half of the season, he will be easier to 'trade' (more so dump) as an expiring next season.

Would Orlando be interested in him for some draft capital? I haven't seen anyone suggest this yet...

Orlando in: Westbrook, 23 2nd, 24 2nd, 25 2nd, 27 2nd, 27 1st
Lakers in: Harris, Fultz, T Ross

They would get off the Fultz Contract (Negative) and it's not like Harris/Ross have much value.

$47 million next season. That is going to take more than a few seconds and a far future first.

[Henesey]

I think they are riding out the Westbrook experiment this year hoping that he improves in the second half of the season, he will be easier to 'trade' (more so dump) as an expiring next season.

Would Orlando be interested in him for some draft capital? I haven't seen anyone suggest this yet...

Orlando in: Westbrook, 23 2nd, 24 2nd, 25 2nd, 27 2nd, 27 1st
Lakers in: Harris, Fultz, T Ross

They would get off the Fultz Contract (Negative) and it's not like Harris/Ross have much value.

$47 million next season. That is going to take more than a few seconds and a far future first.

how much more? I was looking at the Horford/Kemba deals as a basis

Orlando have to hit the salary floor next season, they are positioned nicely for a salary dump if they want to go that route.

[Brandon-Clyde]

I think they are riding out the Westbrook experiment this year hoping that he improves in the second half of the season, he will be easier to 'trade' (more so dump) as an expiring next season.

Would Orlando be interested in him for some draft capital? I haven't seen anyone suggest this yet...

Orlando in: Westbrook, 23 2nd, 24 2nd, 25 2nd, 27 2nd, 27 1st
Lakers in: Harris, Fultz, T Ross

They would get off the Fultz Contract (Negative) and it's not like Harris/Ross have much value.

$47 million next season. That is going to take more than a few seconds and a far future first.

how much more? I was looking at the Horford/Kemba deals as a basis

Orlando have to hit the salary floor next season, they are positioned nicely for a salary dump if they want to go that route.

It will take at least 2 firsts to dump him and even then that assumes useless salary outgoing and Ross and Fultz are not useless

[drosestruts]

I thought for sure I'd be able to cook up something.

Looked at the Pelicans roster - just seems impossible to match salaries

Detroit, Orlando, OKC and Houston are all probably ok being bad - or at least ok letting the team achieve what it can with it's young guys.

Looked at San Antonio for something like White, Young, and McDermott as I'm not sure this is how Pop envisioned his twilight years, but then Westbrook and Murray or so repetitive and sure I could add a third team but I just don't know.


Here's an idea I don't particularly like:

Spurs in: Russell Westbrook
Spurs out: DeJounte Murray, Thaddeus Young, and Doug McDermott

Lakers in: D'Angelo Russell and Doug McDermott
Lakers out: Russel Westbrook

Timberwolves in: DeJounte Murray and Thaddeus Young
Timberwolves out: D'Angelo Russell

Spurs hope Westbrook looks better on their team and that he helps create easier looks for guys like White, Vassell, Johnson and Poetl

Lakers get two players that I feel fit better around LeBron/AD

Timberwolves add Murray who I think is a better point guard option for them over Russell and I think Young is a solid front court veteran for their orster construction - either as a 4 next to KAT or a small ball center with guys like McDaniels and Vanderbilt.

[nzahir]

I think they are riding out the Westbrook experiment this year hoping that he improves in the second half of the season, he will be easier to 'trade' (more so dump) as an expiring next season.

Would Orlando be interested in him for some draft capital? I haven't seen anyone suggest this yet...

Orlando in: Westbrook, 23 2nd, 24 2nd, 25 2nd, 27 2nd, 27 1st
Lakers in: Harris, Fultz, T Ross

They would get off the Fultz Contract (Negative) and it's not like Harris/Ross have much value.

$47 million next season. That is going to take more than a few seconds and a far future first.

I looked into that package earlier from ORL, I would decline from LAL

Fultz is hurt and who knows how he looks when he comes back and a longer contract. Negative deal
Harris is a negative player who is always hurt
Ross is okay, but not a great defender

Not worth giving up all those 2nds and a 2027 1st is LAUGHABLE

Russ is worth more than that ****

Minny makes the most sense now in my eyes

Beverly, Beasley and Prince for Russ, 2nds, and maybe another guy from a 3rd team for some extra value

[Resistance]

I think they are riding out the Westbrook experiment this year hoping that he improves in the second half of the season, he will be easier to 'trade' (more so dump) as an expiring next season.

Would Orlando be interested in him for some draft capital? I haven't seen anyone suggest this yet...

Orlando in: Westbrook, 23 2nd, 24 2nd, 25 2nd, 27 2nd, 27 1st
Lakers in: Harris, Fultz, T Ross

They would get off the Fultz Contract (Negative) and it's not like Harris/Ross have much value.

$47 million next season. That is going to take more than a few seconds and a far future first.

I looked into that package earlier from ORL, I would decline from LAL

Fultz is hurt and who knows how he looks when he comes back and a longer contract. Negative deal
Harris is a negative player who is always hurt
Ross is okay, but not a great defender

Not worth giving up all those 2nds and a 2027 1st is LAUGHABLE

Russ is worth more than that ****

Minny makes the most sense now in my eyes

Beverly, Beasley and Prince for Russ, 2nds, and maybe another guy from a 3rd team for some extra value

What is being sent to the third team for the extra value that they are kicking into the trade? It will be difficult to squeeze extra value from redirecting Prince or Beverly to a third team unless a really blah contract is coming back.

[nzahir]

$47 million next season. That is going to take more than a few seconds and a far future first.

I looked into that package earlier from ORL, I would decline from LAL

Fultz is hurt and who knows how he looks when he comes back and a longer contract. Negative deal
Harris is a negative player who is always hurt
Ross is okay, but not a great defender

Not worth giving up all those 2nds and a 2027 1st is LAUGHABLE

Russ is worth more than that ****

Minny makes the most sense now in my eyes

Beverly, Beasley and Prince for Russ, 2nds, and maybe another guy from a 3rd team for some extra value

What is being sent to the third team for the extra value that they are kicking into the trade? It will be difficult to squeeze extra value from redirecting Prince or Beverly to a third team unless a really blah contract is coming back.

For ex: 3rd team is taking Bev or Beasley and sending us (Lakers) a meh/crappy player and then sending Minny a young player with some value, some more 2nds or even a late protected 1st

Question is who wants Beasley or Beverly

Shouldn't be hard to find a taker, just not sure who

[Ballerhogger]

The reunion trade.

Westbrook + THT

FOR

Irving + J. Harris

KD and Harden welcome Westbrook back.

James welcomes Irving back.

Yes please .