Is Facu Campazzo the worst player in the NBA?

[Calvin Klein]

Malone is absolutely obsessed with this man

it's funny because argentinians keep hating malone because campazzo is not playing enough minutes

[Calvin Klein]

It does seem like his main issue is fit. He needs to run the offense to maximize his talent. Every time I see the Nuggets play he plays off the ball and waits for the corner 3 which is not at all his game.

[Bergmaniac]

He tries hard on D but being 5'10" in the NBA means you are a huge negative on this end no matter how hard you try unless you have freakish wingspan which he doesn't. And on offense he just can't score remotely efficiency if left wide open all game and after the opposing teams learned this has really hindered his main skill (passing) because every opposing team just gives him acres of space and dares him to shoot.

[UcanUwill]

By the way, if I know my Italian, I am pretty sure Campazzo is Italian name, so pronouncing it, there is no z sounds, most people just say his name with z, but those zz should make a ''ts' sounds, like in pizza for example.

[JasonStern]

Torched the Blazers in the playoffs last year, so I'll say no. But OP makes a compelling argument that he is one of - if not the worst player that gets consistent minutes on a winning team.

[Tracymcgoaty]

Torched the Blazers in the playoffs last year, so I'll say no. But OP makes a compelling argument that he is one of - if not the worst player that gets consistent minutes on a winning team.

Averaged 9/5 on 37/34 splits.

He built a shelter.

[Tracymcgoaty]

The thing is. Would the rest of NBA players have a better +/- result in a similar situation?. If so, he might be the worst. But I doubt it.

You could literally replace Facu with Cory Joseph and im 100% sure that team would be better.

[Plain Old Josh]

Facundo Campazzo is -234 this season, the worst +/- by a player on a .500 team. That’s -111 worse than the next worst player.

[Johnny Bball]

I don't watch Denver much, but Any chance Campazzo first comes off the bench when Jokic comes off the floor to be the ballhandler?

[User_friendly]

The thing is. Would the rest of NBA players have a better +/- result in a similar situation?. If so, he might be the worst. But I doubt it.

You could literally replace Facu with Cory Joseph and im 100% sure that team would be better.

Maybe, but doesn't validate the argument of Facu being the worst player because of having the worst +/- record.
You are rather just considering him already so bad, regardless of that argument, that Cory Joseph would do a better job. But that's a totally different way to look at it.

[The Rebel]

He is one of the better passers in the world and is super pesk on D, so no. Got to be honest, this thread hurt my Euroleague fan feelings, there are so many worse players than Campazzo its not even funny. He is same as Rubio, where basic statsheat doesnt show his whole value.

He plays a ton of out of fit. He is on ball creator but not a shooter, where in Denver he runs a lot of off ball and just has to take spot up 3s, which is not his game. Make him run NBA second unit on a team that doesnt have all time great playmaker like Jokic, and he would do better, Like, get him on the Warriors.

No, sorry to tell you but Campazzo is ass at everything. He is not a shooter but he is also not a on ball creator because he has zero scoring threats and just gets left alone while opponents take away passing lanes. He cant hit wide open shots, or finish at the rim. All his flash is useless.

On the defensive end he looks like he is doing something but at the end of the day he is too small and opponents shoot over him like he doesnt exist. He can be a pest on weak ballhandlers but he gives away so, so much more.

Terrible player.

I disagree, we had this conversation, I think his defense is still good, you underrating him on that end. And even tho he cant shoot, he has his moments as a passer, like when he plays with Naji of whatever that guys name, I feel like Facu is getting that man NBA contract, cause they have chemistry and Facu creates a lot of open looks for that guy.
Facundo is basically a foot shorter Draymond Green.

If you are talking about NNaji getting some offensive rebounds/put backs you are right, Campazzo missing all those shots sure does help. If you are talking about making the game easier for Nnaji than I would love to hear an argument on that.

[The Rebel]

Yep, those are my fellow Nuggets fans.

I admit he is terrible shooter. Almost all his shots are couple of feets wide open and he can't hit anything (37.6% FG, 31% 3pt). He is pass-first PG with very nice 3.3 A/TO ratio. He is also 2nd on Nuggets in total assists, 2nd in total steals and guess what, 4th in total blocks.

We have Austin Rivers on our bench who... does nothing. He can't shoot, can't pass, can't play defense can't... Whatever you name Austin can't do it. Rest of our bench is terrible, too. Like most reliable back up is second rounder who was three years out of the league. Yet somehow it is all Facu's fault.

But hey, not that long ago it was all about Will Barton who by those posters was the worst player in NBA and should be traded for future second rounder or waived.

Your right, I mean how could all of us Nuggets fans miss all those championship banners we have hanging from the last few years. Of course none of your stats show how the defense and the bench is better with Campazzo on the bench, while it actually gets better with Rivers on the court. I know you are a European fan, but that does not make the truth go away.

I like how you bring up Barton, are you going to try to argue that he is a good fit with Murray? Are you going to argue that his hero ball has not cost the team dozens of games over the years? Or are you just going to be a European homer and attack Nuggets fans?

[BostonCouchGM]

+/- is a useless stat. He's a serviceable backup PG. Not a bad player in the slightest.

[Dacost]

Just to short to compete and make hustle plays.

[Sharkboy242]

Malone is absolutely obsessed with this man

it's funny because argentinians keep hating malone because campazzo is not playing enough minutes

He's had the longest leash of any bench player on the team. Its absolutely ridiculous to try and make an argument that he needs more minutes. He's been given the benefit of the doubt time and time again this season and at this point people are calling on Malone to stop.

Yep, those are my fellow Nuggets fans.

I admit he is terrible shooter. Almost all his shots are couple of feets wide open and he can't hit anything (37.6% FG, 31% 3pt). He is pass-first PG with very nice 3.3 A/TO ratio. He is also 2nd on Nuggets in total assists, 2nd in total steals and guess what, 4th in total blocks.

We have Austin Rivers on our bench who... does nothing. He can't shoot, can't pass, can't play defense can't... Whatever you name Austin can't do it. Rest of our bench is terrible, too. Like most reliable back up is second rounder who was three years out of the league. Yet somehow it is all Facu's fault.

But hey, not that long ago it was all about Will Barton who by those posters was the worst player in NBA and should be traded for future second rounder or waived.

Its wrong to try and frame the Nuggets as sucking because of Facu. While that's true, its also true that Facu as sucked this season. I dislike Rivers and even then its incredibly hard to try and argue he's been worse than Facu.

[axeman23]

and it's not even close?

No, no... It's "finna not even be close"!

[Calvin Klein]

Malone is absolutely obsessed with this man

it's funny because argentinians keep hating malone because campazzo is not playing enough minutes

He's had the longest leash of any bench player on the team. Its absolutely ridiculous to try and make an argument that he needs more minutes. He's been given the benefit of the doubt time and time again this season and at this point people are calling on Malone to stop.

Oh I'm not one of them. It's just how most of those people feel and it's interesting to see less biased points of view. But you know, 90% of those people only watch because of him so of course they're gonna feel that way. I've always felt he lacked the size and shooting to excel in the NBA. But again, it's gonna look even worse if he plays out of position, which correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like he does.

[eathb_au]

it's funny because argentinians keep hating malone because campazzo is not playing enough minutes

He's had the longest leash of any bench player on the team. Its absolutely ridiculous to try and make an argument that he needs more minutes. He's been given the benefit of the doubt time and time again this season and at this point people are calling on Malone to stop.

Oh I'm not one of them. It's just how most of those people feel and it's interesting to see less biased points of view. But you know, 90% of those people only watch because of him so of course they're gonna feel that way. I've always felt he lacked the size and shooting to excel in the NBA. But again, it's gonna look even worse if he plays out of position, which correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like he does.

He's only ever played Point Guard for Denver?

[Sharkboy242]

it's funny because argentinians keep hating malone because campazzo is not playing enough minutes

He's had the longest leash of any bench player on the team. Its absolutely ridiculous to try and make an argument that he needs more minutes. He's been given the benefit of the doubt time and time again this season and at this point people are calling on Malone to stop.

Oh I'm not one of them. It's just how most of those people feel and it's interesting to see less biased points of view. But you know, 90% of those people only watch because of him so of course they're gonna feel that way. I've always felt he lacked the size and shooting to excel in the NBA. But again, it's gonna look even worse if he plays out of position, which correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like he does.

He only plays out of position in the sense that he's featured in 3 guard lineups. Of those lineups though he tends to be the main facilitator and ballhandler. Would it be better if you swapped out one of those guards in favor of a C? Yes.

Ultimately the nuggets are going to suck with or without facu but facu has done nothing to prove he deserves to be in the rotation.

[AleksandarN]

Here is another breakdown. Of all of the players on Denver only Facu is a minus with Jokic. Minus 35 that's crazy. Why does he get minutes and holy crap Jokic makes others better

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