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It's time to turn the page on Fultz.

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Re: It's time to turn the page on Fultz. 

Post#61 » by fendilim » Sat Nov 11, 2023 3:29 am

SOUL wrote:
KillMonger wrote:people are saying his hitch is back....i didn't notice, is the hitch back in his shot?


Are you not watching him shoot in games? It's very noticeable. Last year it just looked like a later release on his middies, now it's funky again

If true, Exactly what i was afraid of.

He is entirely unreliable down the stretch.

Imagine being in a close game and then his shoulder suddenly flares up.

Oh wait.. don’t imagine.. just watch the last game. Lol
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Re: It's time to turn the page on Fultz. 

Post#62 » by Skin » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:21 am

Paolo and Franz playing like crap = It's time to blame Fultz again!!!
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Re: It's time to turn the page on Fultz. 

Post#63 » by fateis007 » Sat Nov 11, 2023 5:24 am

Skin wrote:Paolo and Franz playing like crap = It's time to blame Fultz again!!!


I havent blamed him for one loss, or said Franz isn't playing like **** to close our games, and Paolo has pretty much lost us the last 2 games.

But what does that have to do with our starting point guard being 0% from three, and basically laboring to get shots up again.
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Re: It's time to turn the page on Fultz. 

Post#64 » by thelead » Sat Nov 11, 2023 5:33 am

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Skin wrote:Paolo and Franz playing like crap = It's time to blame Fultz again!!!


I havent blamed him for one loss, or said Franz isn't playing like **** to close our games, and Paolo has pretty much lost us the last 2 games.

But what does that have to do with our starting point guard being 0% from three, and basically laboring to get shots up again.

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Re: It's time to turn the page on Fultz. 

Post#65 » by KillMonger » Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:32 am

SOUL wrote:
KillMonger wrote:people are saying his hitch is back....i didn't notice, is the hitch back in his shot?


Are you not watching him shoot in games? It's very noticeable. Last year it just looked like a later release on his middies, now it's funky again

it's funny....i'm so angry about the game it's like it became a blur in my mind and i can't remember the minute details and i certainly don't want to go back and watch it i'd rather scrub it from my memory....i'll take your word for it....I believe in one of the games he played he airballed a 3 correct? and in another game he airballed a freethrow....i saw that and was like "uh oh".....now this....makes me think it's flaring up and he's having control issues? worst possible time for a flare up, in a contract year
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Re: It's time to turn the page on Fultz. 

Post#66 » by pepe1991 » Sat Nov 11, 2023 7:05 am

SOUL wrote:
KillMonger wrote:people are saying his hitch is back....i didn't notice, is the hitch back in his shot?


Are you not watching him shoot in games? It's very noticeable. Last year it just looked like a later release on his middies, now it's funky again




From his own youtube channel, from this summer

How can somebody sit next to him and go " well, that looks solid. This is very fluid".

He is either surrounded by group of spineless succubuses who are there for his money & fame or people who have no f*** clue about basketball. Or both.

OR this is best he can do.

I don't know. Anyhow, it's no wonder he has no lift nor range on his 3s if his jumpshot form limits him to this.
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Re: It's time to turn the page on Fultz. 

Post#67 » by Skin » Sat Nov 11, 2023 7:33 am

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Skin wrote:Paolo and Franz playing like crap = It's time to blame Fultz again!!!


I havent blamed him for one loss, or said Franz isn't playing like **** to close our games, and Paolo has pretty much lost us the last 2 games.

But what does that have to do with our starting point guard being 0% from three, and basically laboring to get shots up again.

What's your solution?

It's not like I haven't fought for upgrades either. Hell, I started a thread to trade for Harden a few weeks ago. I wanted us to get Dame which was also against the grain here. I wanted us to trade up and draft Trae so badly... a lot of debates here saying he wouldn't work. lol all he's been is a Magic killer.
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Re: It's time to turn the page on Fultz. 

Post#68 » by GelbeWand09 » Sat Nov 11, 2023 10:40 am

MasterGMer wrote:We could have beat Mavs and we could have beat Hawks. All the losses are not on Fultz. Fultz had 11 points in the first half in Hawks game. Actually he is pretty efficient. But I know. He has to shoot 3s. Otherwise, the spacing for Franz and Paolo is not going to be there. But I will say "We will see"


He got a .493 TS% / .000 3P% / .333 in the midrange & a .071 FTr. Nope thats not efficient :o
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Re: It's time to turn the page on Fultz. 

Post#69 » by basketballRob » Sat Nov 11, 2023 1:14 pm

They should bring Fultz off the bench. I just don't think he can be a big minute player, and his advanced stats have been below average as a starter. Two years ago, when he came back late in the season and came off the bench, it was the best stretch in his career.
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Post#70 » by Skybox » Sat Nov 11, 2023 1:37 pm

I don’t see how concluding (finally) that he can’t shoot or draw fouls means he’s suited for a bench role…limiting his minutes won’t make him any more useful to this team. Sorry, he’s a nice guy but…
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Re: It's time to turn the page on Fultz. 

Post#71 » by basketballRob » Sat Nov 11, 2023 2:11 pm

Skybox wrote:I don’t see how concluding (finally) that he can’t shoot or draw fouls means he’s suited for a bench role…limiting his minutes won’t make him any more useful to this team. Sorry, he’s a nice guy but…
He plays mostly against starters now. I would play him against second units and see how he performs before you just write him off.

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Re: It's time to turn the page on Fultz. 

Post#72 » by Skybox » Sat Nov 11, 2023 2:16 pm

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Skybox wrote:I don’t see how concluding (finally) that he can’t shoot or draw fouls means he’s suited for a bench role…limiting his minutes won’t make him any more useful to this team. Sorry, he’s a nice guy but…
He plays mostly against starters now. I would play him against second units and see how he performs before you just write him off.

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maybe ...if he were under contract. I don't see a point now
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Re: It's time to turn the page on Fultz. 

Post#73 » by fendilim » Sat Nov 11, 2023 5:19 pm

Skybox wrote:I don’t see how concluding (finally) that he can’t shoot or draw fouls means he’s suited for a bench role…limiting his minutes won’t make him any more useful to this team. Sorry, he’s a nice guy but…

Because he can be the first option on the 2nd lineup.
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Re: It's time to turn the page on Fultz. 

Post#74 » by p0peye » Sat Nov 11, 2023 7:03 pm

Talent level on opponent side has zero impact on Fultz's struggles, he can be shooting in an empty gym and nothing changes. Last season I was open for some move where Fultz could maybe have 20 mins off the bench, mostly out of sympathy for he definitely is troubled kid that went through a lot of adversity. Drafting Black has closed that door, Fultz is odd man out and sooner the better, trade or benching.
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Re: It's time to turn the page on Fultz. 

Post#75 » by pepe1991 » Sat Nov 11, 2023 7:13 pm

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basketballRob wrote:
Skybox wrote:I don’t see how concluding (finally) that he can’t shoot or draw fouls means he’s suited for a bench role…limiting his minutes won’t make him any more useful to this team. Sorry, he’s a nice guy but…
He plays mostly against starters now. I would play him against second units and see how he performs before you just write him off.

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maybe ...if he were under contract. I don't see a point now


He doesn't attemp outside shots. He could be playing against chairs and same problem would still occure.
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Re: It's time to turn the page on Fultz. 

Post#76 » by fateis007 » Sat Nov 11, 2023 7:21 pm

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fateis007 wrote:
Skin wrote:Paolo and Franz playing like crap = It's time to blame Fultz again!!!


I havent blamed him for one loss, or said Franz isn't playing like **** to close our games, and Paolo has pretty much lost us the last 2 games.

But what does that have to do with our starting point guard being 0% from three, and basically laboring to get shots up again.

What's your solution?

It's not like I haven't fought for upgrades either. Hell, I started a thread to trade for Harden a few weeks ago. I wanted us to get Dame which was also against the grain here. I wanted us to trade up and draft Trae so badly... a lot of debates here saying he wouldn't work. lol all he's been is a Magic killer.


I was gutted that night when all the mocks had Trae going to us for months, and we lost out on both him and luka and ended up with Mo frickin Bomba. Is he even still in the league?
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Re: It's time to turn the page on Fultz. 

Post#77 » by Skybox » Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:02 pm

fendilim wrote:
Skybox wrote:I don’t see how concluding (finally) that he can’t shoot or draw fouls means he’s suited for a bench role…limiting his minutes won’t make him any more useful to this team. Sorry, he’s a nice guy but…

Because he can be the first option on the 2nd lineup.


Why? I'm fine with it until his contract expires or maybe raise his trade stock by beating up scrubs in junk time for stats, but Cole is better suited for the role, given his shooting and overall offensive aggressiveness. I wouldn't keep him for that role regardless of new terms. Just not needed.
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Re: It's time to turn the page on Fultz. 

Post#78 » by Def Swami » Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:33 pm

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Re: It's time to turn the page on Fultz. 

Post#79 » by VFX » Sat Nov 11, 2023 10:31 pm

fendilim wrote:
Skybox wrote:I don’t see how concluding (finally) that he can’t shoot or draw fouls means he’s suited for a bench role…limiting his minutes won’t make him any more useful to this team. Sorry, he’s a nice guy but…

Because he can be the first option on the 2nd lineup.


I don’t see a scenario where paying Cole AND Fultz makes sense for a second unit. They are trash together on the court and it would be a waste of money. I’d rather hand money to another 2/3 wing that can have a higher volume than Gary Harris off the bench when Ingles retires.
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Re: It's time to turn the page on Fultz. 

Post#80 » by Bergmaniac » Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:36 pm

Skybox wrote:I don’t see how concluding (finally) that he can’t shoot or draw fouls means he’s suited for a bench role…limiting his minutes won’t make him any more useful to this team. Sorry, he’s a nice guy but…

Off the bench and playing fewer minutes he'd be able to push the tempo more and he's much better in transition than in the halfcourt.

But we already signed Cole to a new contract for the 6th man role so I doubt we'd want to keep Fultz for this.

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