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greekman wrote:need to find a way to keep both siakam and anunoby. how can it be done


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WaltFrazier wrote:The new lineup will motivate Masai to restart the evaluation process, give the new rotation 20-25 games extra before any trades
Celebration in the front office tonight. Something new to evaluate! Whoooo!

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WaltFrazier wrote:hyper316 wrote:The gap between Schroder running the bench versus Flynn is enormous.
Sitting Flynn was as important as starting Gary
This is exactly why most of us wanted Gary to start. It gave the starting lineup shooting where Barnes/Siakam can handle the ball more while letting Schroder go wild with the 2nd unit and also kicking Flynn to the moon.
Just that simple change while reducing Precious's role increased the overall IQ of the team by a million lol.
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Bruin wrote:?s=46&t=6Hx3ZCSHlysihvhqh0K3hw
Masai says, see I told you no more selfishness
There goes my hero. Watch him as he goes.
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Players seemed to respond well to the line up shift. Turns out the answer to who, what, how, when, why was right there along.
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There are no conclusions to be made if the lineup change. This was against a horrendous team with the worst defense in the league. Idk why some of y’all are even discussing the results of the change
We need to see it against real competition on Friday
We need to see it against real competition on Friday

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ArthurVandelay wrote:WaltFrazier wrote:The new lineup will motivate Masai to restart the evaluation process, give the new rotation 20-25 games extra before any trades
Celebration in the front office tonight. Something new to evaluate! Whoooo!
this roster is about to click - booby webster
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Tha Cynic wrote:The other thing I would say is - McDaniels essentially plays like Dick did when he was struggling. Let's replace McDaniels with Dick if Aichuwa is out of the rotation. Porter should be playing everyday - he just makes the game easier for his teammates with his IQ.
Big difference is that McDaniels can guard and rebound for his position. Dick was getting picked on and couldn't do anything positively on the court. He will need to start becoming a lights out shooter to justify him being on the court.
And yes, I've been on the Porter train from the start simply because he's high I'D while this team is full of idiots lol. If his shooting comes around then it'd be a game changer for us.
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Mack11 wrote:ArthurVandelay wrote:WaltFrazier wrote:The new lineup will motivate Masai to restart the evaluation process, give the new rotation 20-25 games extra before any trades
Celebration in the front office tonight. Something new to evaluate! Whoooo!
this roster is about to click - booby webster
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Brinbe wrote:scottie all star
I'm starting to get higher expectations where the 20 points on 16 shots, 12 rebounds, 8 assists doesn't really look all that impressive from Barnes.

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NinjaBro wrote:Precious tooWaltFrazier wrote:hyper316 wrote:The gap between Schroder running the bench versus Flynn is enormous.
Sitting Flynn was as important as starting Gary
Actually I thought Achiuwa did some good things when he had to come in for Jak's foul trouble. But unfortunately you always have the dumb things with the good things
There goes my hero. Watch him as he goes.
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Trent starting and Schroeder coming off the bench, hopefully this rotation changes holds up
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Bruin wrote:There are no conclusions to be made if the lineup change. This was against a horrendous team with the worst defense in the league. Idk why some of y’all are even discussing the results of the change
We need to see it against real competition on Friday
Because we have struggled to beat teams like Washington all year so seeing this on the road was refreshing. No one's expecting us to become championship contenders here but it's a step up from looking outright pathetic during this recent stretch.
And agreed, I don't expect to win the Celtics game but let's see what type of fight we put up against them. Better not see us crying that they're beating the living pulp outta us again lol.
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Mack11 wrote:ArthurVandelay wrote:WaltFrazier wrote:The new lineup will motivate Masai to restart the evaluation process, give the new rotation 20-25 games extra before any trades
Celebration in the front office tonight. Something new to evaluate! Whoooo!
this roster is about to click - booby webster

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WaltFrazier wrote:NinjaBro wrote:Precious tooWaltFrazier wrote:Sitting Flynn was as important as starting Gary
Actually I thought Achiuwa did some good things when he had to come in for Jak's foul trouble. But unfortunately you always have the dumb things with the good things
Yup... his defense in the 3rd quarter was ELITE. When he just sticks to his role, he's actually good but he's too stupid/selfish to do that.
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pingpongrac wrote:HiJiNX wrote:Won every quarter convincingly. Yeah yeah the Wiz suck, but that was a professional effort. No random hot shooting night or anything like that. We just executed all game.
Yep. Before people start crapping on the win/new starting lineup because it came against the Wizards, the way we played tonight is something we should be doing most nights. I'm not saying we're going to score 130+ and shoot almost 60% from the field while holding the opponent to ~100 points, but some of this team's biggest issues (outside shooting, taking the ball out of Scottie's and Siakam's hands too much, unbalanced lineups/bad rotations, etc.) can be somewhat solved by the simple starting lineup change that Darko finally made tonight. The consistent defensive effort is something we need to see more of as well. Our defence was rough to start the game (aided by some brutal officiating) as well as most of the 3rd, but overall this was one of our best defensive efforts since mid-November. I'm interested to see how we'll come out on Friday and if Darko will stick with this lineup now. It seems obvious he should, but who knows.
On another note, yet another dominant game from Scottie. I wish we didn't extend the lead quite so much though because I was 2 Scottie points away from a big payout.
Never took you as a bettor pingpong. Wish you woulda got those 2 pts.
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Tor_Raps wrote:WaltFrazier wrote:hyper316 wrote:The gap between Schroder running the bench versus Flynn is enormous.
Sitting Flynn was as important as starting Gary
This is exactly why most of us wanted Gary to start. It gave the starting lineup shooting where Barnes/Siakam can handle the ball more while letting Schroder go wild with the 2nd unit and also kicking Flynn to the moon.
Just that simple change while reducing Precious's role increased the overall IQ of the team by a million lol.
Forget reducing achiuwa role, just bench him permanently. And then I’ll be happy.
mdenny wrote:In anycase....Masai is probably gonna make Fred the first active player/head coach in franchise history now that Nurse is out of the way. That's been the plan all along.














