Wolves vs Celtics at this very moment in time
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Boy, this thread is an absolute cesspool. It's all biased opinion (from both sides) with no real basketball talk.
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Already said 1000 times and Say it again: Boston Is One of the best teams ever,in Nba history.
People still do not realize how good they are,they Indeed Will soon
People still do not realize how good they are,they Indeed Will soon
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SweaterBae wrote:nbafan38 wrote:Hottest team vs most talented team. The wolves seem like they have something really special going on right now. If the series was today probably Minnesota but we'll see if they sustain this level of play for another 1.5 months.
How is Boston not hot? They've been hot for pushing 90 games this season.
I can't gauge them because their playoff opponents have been so soft. Nothing against the celtics but they haven't been tested at all in the playoffs (regular season and playoffs are different things).
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TheSheriff wrote:thinktank wrote:Special_Puppy wrote:
Boston is currently winning by an average margin of 16 lol. Celtics also played way better in the regular season and rank top 5 in playoff experience
Wolves winning by 15 and have the best defense in the league by a large margin, as well as the best offense in the playoffs.
The Celtics have the best net rating by a very very large margin.
You are looking at small samples sizes. Do not overrate the significance.
I’ll take Ant’s and Wolves higher playoff metrics >>> Celtics RS net rating, thanks.
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I’ll take the best team from day 1 this season. Celtics in 5-6 games
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thinktank wrote:TheSheriff wrote:thinktank wrote:
Wolves winning by 15 and have the best defense in the league by a large margin, as well as the best offense in the playoffs.
The Celtics have the best net rating by a very very large margin.
You are looking at small samples sizes. Do not overrate the significance.
I’ll take Ant’s and Wolves higher playoff metrics >>> Celtics RS net rating, thanks.
Tiny Playoff Sample Size vs Larger RS Sample.
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PierceFan4ever wrote:I’ll take the best team from day 1 this season. Celtics in 5-6 games
Special_Puppy wrote:Tiny Playoff Sample Size vs Larger RS Sample.
Well the OP was very clear that he was asking about “this moment in time.”
At this moment in time, with the Wolves higher than they have been in franchise history, I wouldn’t want to play them.
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thinktank wrote:TheSheriff wrote:thinktank wrote:
Wolves winning by 15 and have the best defense in the league by a large margin, as well as the best offense in the playoffs.
The Celtics have the best net rating by a very very large margin.
You are looking at small samples sizes. Do not overrate the significance.
I’ll take Ant’s and Wolves higher playoff metrics >>> Celtics RS net rating, thanks.
What playoff metrics have Minny higher? No problem with anyone preference for Minny but what metrics are we talking here?
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Special_Puppy wrote:thinktank wrote:TheSheriff wrote:
The Celtics have the best net rating by a very very large margin.
You are looking at small samples sizes. Do not overrate the significance.
I’ll take Ant’s and Wolves higher playoff metrics >>> Celtics RS net rating, thanks.
Tiny Playoff Sample Size vs Larger RS Sample.
You don’t win the championship during your large sample—you win it in the playoffs.
The playoffs are a different game. The Celtics should know that by now, but it seems like they’re happy being eliminated playing their RS-quality ball.
KAT in the 2024 playoffs: 19.1, 9.0, 2.6 on 46.6 / 36.1 / 85.5.
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Triple M wrote:thinktank wrote:TheSheriff wrote:
The Celtics have the best net rating by a very very large margin.
You are looking at small samples sizes. Do not overrate the significance.
I’ll take Ant’s and Wolves higher playoff metrics >>> Celtics RS net rating, thanks.
What playoff metrics have Minny higher? No problem with anyone preference for Minny but what metrics are we talking here?
O rating, for one. MN is first at 123.0.
D rating Wolves are actually not first and neither is Boston.
Net rating Boston is first but not playing the best competition.
By the way, Ant has the highest WS and PER.
KAT in the 2024 playoffs: 19.1, 9.0, 2.6 on 46.6 / 36.1 / 85.5.
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TWolves at the moment, leading the poll.
117 total votes so far.
55% of the votes for TWolves.
45% for the Celtics.
117 total votes so far.
55% of the votes for TWolves.
45% for the Celtics.
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How come the Timberwolves offense has been so much better than it was in the regular season (+0.5 in the regular season to +10.1 in the post-season) and is it sustainable?
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jkvonny wrote:TWolves at the moment, leading the poll.
117 total votes so far.
55% of the votes for TWolves.
45% for the Celtics.
Vegas odds to win title
Boston +100
Minnesota +310
The difference I imagine is in large part the question of will Minnesota even get to the finals?
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interesting matchups.
White, Brown and some Holiday trying to shut down Edwards.
McDaniels (and NAW) shutting down Tatum.
Towns v Porzingis.
With Gobert in the middle as X factor.
White, Brown and some Holiday trying to shut down Edwards.
McDaniels (and NAW) shutting down Tatum.
Towns v Porzingis.
With Gobert in the middle as X factor.
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Special_Puppy wrote:How come the Timberwolves offense has been so much better than it was in the regular season (+0.5 in the regular season to +10.1 in the post-season) and is it sustainable?
Coach Finch stresses defense in the first half of the seasons practices because it's easy to get early wins playing defense while teams are getting into the swing of things. In the second half he stresses more offense since the defensive groundwork has been laid. Wolves were a much better offense post AS break than they were pre.
My Grandma always said "it's a helluva lot easier to take a child down a peg than it is to build them up one"
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thinktank wrote:Triple M wrote:thinktank wrote:
I’ll take Ant’s and Wolves higher playoff metrics >>> Celtics RS net rating, thanks.
What playoff metrics have Minny higher? No problem with anyone preference for Minny but what metrics are we talking here?
O rating, for one. MN is first at 123.0.
D rating Wolves are actually not first and neither is Boston.
Net rating Boston is first but not playing the best competition.
By the way, Ant has the highest WS and PER.
Regular season metrics are meaningless in this era. But playoff metrics arent a real thing because we are only talking about 5 to 6 games
The playoffs is all about match ups. Again im ok with anyone bigging up Minny but lets talk more about match ups than metrics over a small sample
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Triple M wrote:Regular season metrics are meaningless in this era. But playoff metrics arent a real thing because we are only talking about 5 to 6 games
What actual data won’t you reject?
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nbafan38 wrote:jkvonny wrote:TWolves at the moment, leading the poll.
117 total votes so far.
55% of the votes for TWolves.
45% for the Celtics.
Vegas odds to win title
Boston +100
Minnesota +310
The difference I imagine is in large part the question of will Minnesota even get to the finals?
Vegas odds.
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Triple M wrote:thinktank wrote:Triple M wrote:
What playoff metrics have Minny higher? No problem with anyone preference for Minny but what metrics are we talking here?
O rating, for one. MN is first at 123.0.
D rating Wolves are actually not first and neither is Boston.
Net rating Boston is first but not playing the best competition.
By the way, Ant has the highest WS and PER.
Regular season metrics are meaningless in this era. But playoff metrics arent a real thing because we are only talking about 5 to 6 games
The playoffs is all about match ups. Again im ok with anyone bigging up Minny but lets talk more about match ups than metrics over a small sample
We know we match up great with anyone, especially the Celtics, who we beat and took to OT without half our lineup in the RS. The Wolves length makes them a matchup problem for any team.
KAT in the 2024 playoffs: 19.1, 9.0, 2.6 on 46.6 / 36.1 / 85.5.
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nbafan38 wrote:Hottest team vs most talented team. The wolves seem like they have something really special going on right now. If the series was today probably Minnesota but we'll see if they sustain this level of play for another 1.5 months.
And who is supposed to be the most talented team? You can easily make the case Minnesota is the more talented team. Also, TWolves have been hot all year. They were in first place the majority of the season.