GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT

[RHODEY]

I was thinking off ball actions/screens and cuts will help. Stagnating into iso ball plays into their hands.

Also, pushing off of every defensive rebound.

Slip screens
Look for mismatches to exploit
Jalen should do a lot of relocating
Fight for extra possessions
ISO when needed

Those mismatches will be key .


When JB has a big in space he has to make a quick decision and not aimlessly pound the the ball.

And if the guard is switched on to KAT, he has to move quickly and get position in the paint and get the entry pass. When they double, spray or hit the cutter.

Yup...we play too slow at times ...we need to speed things up.....Cam Payne and Deuce get it...Thibs doesn't.

[KnixinSix]

I'm expecting an embarrassing lost. Hope for an uplifting win.

If the last game albeit vs lesser competition was a true sign that we have taken a step up in our gelling process we absolutely can win.


However if we haven't taken that step up yet we could easily lose. Orlando is clicking on all cylinders chemistry wise and is maximizing their rosters abilities.

Are we close to doing to same yet? Tonight we probably find out.

[KnixinSix]

Slip screens
Look for mismatches to exploit
Jalen should do a lot of relocating
Fight for extra possessions
ISO when needed

Those mismatches will be key .


When JB has a big in space he has to make a quick decision and not aimlessly pound the the ball.

And if the guard is switched on to KAT, he has to move quickly and get position in the paint and get the entry pass. When they double, spray or hit the cutter.

Yup...we play too slow at time ...we need to speed things up.....Cam Payne and Deuce get it...Thibs doesn't.

If Im Thibs.... Id be playing Sims and OG all practice on Brunson and making him improve on what he has been hesitating on in games.

[Spree2Houston]

Teams like Orlando give this Knick team problems. We need Bridges to build on his last game. This will be a tough game.

[Besart19]

So. I think that the Magic might switch a lot because of their personnel.

What's the best way to counter a switch everything defense?

Hit 3s

you need to make zip passes either for the cuts or for the man in or near the paint to make the extra pass to the corners or the cutters coming from the baseline

[Guano]

This should be Mikal's most important game of his career. If he has a bad game the bandwagon that he built during the NO's game will quickly go south.

The man played in the NBA Finals

Could prolly even argue his 2 college national championships games are bigger than a cup qualifying game even though it would be wrong.

[Chanel Bomber]

Another element to support the pertinence of advanced impact metrics.

The Magic are rolling without their "star" player Paolo Banchero. How could that happen if Banchero's their best player, which is the conventional wisdom? You would expect them to take a step back without him, right?

Well, EPM suggests that Banchero only had a moderate impact on winning last year (+0.2 EPM), while Franz Wagner was by far their most impactful player (+3.2 EPM).

Banchero made the All-Star team based on his big numbers, but those numbers resulted from a high usage more than anything else. In reality, Paolo didn't have much of an impact on their run to the playoffs. Which makes sense if you think about it - he's a talented but fairly inefficient volume scorer and an average defender.

Orlando's run to the playoffs last year was predominantly driven by their defense and - if any single individual player deserves to be mentioned - by Franz's all-around play. Which explains why they are being successful this season without Banchero. He's a big talent who raises their ceiling, but he's not the driving force behind their success. Meanwhile, Wagner's EPM has risen to +5.5 this season.

I think those metrics are interesting because they allow you to see trends emerge before they become common knowledge and to challenge preconceptions built on expectations and subjective eye test. When the collective assumption was that the Nuggets could never win a championship with Jokic because he was a "bad defender", the same metric(s) suggested that Jokic actually had a positive impact on defense, despite not being a rim protector. A few months later, the Nuggets won the championship, with their defense holding up against the likes of KD, LeBron, AD and Jimmy.

[RHODEY]

I'm expecting an embarrassing lost. Hope for an uplifting win.

If the last game albeit vs lesser competition was a true sign that we have taken a step up in our gelling process we absolutely can win.


However if we haven't taken that step up yet we could easily lose. Orlando is clicking on all cylinders chemistry wise and is maximizing their rosters abilities.

Are we close to doing to same yet? Tonight we probably find out.

Honestly I think Orlando is the perfect test for us right now. Their defense is legit yet they are not so overwhelming good that we shouldn't expect to beat them if we play our best game at home.

If we can beat them handily it shows definite progress.

Maybe its a blessing that we a kinda defensively handicapped right now.
It forces our offensively minded players to focus more in that area. That should pay dividends when Mitch and Precious finally get back.

[Jalen Bluntson]

We will win.

[Capn'O]

Another element to support the pertinence of advanced impact metrics.

The Magic are rolling without their "star" player Paolo Banchero. How could that happen if Banchero's their best player, which is the conventional wisdom? You would expect them to take a step back without him, right?

Well, EPM suggests that Banchero only had a moderate impact on winning last year (+0.2 EPM), while Franz Wagner was by far their most impactful player (+3.2 EPM).

Banchero made the All-Star team based on his big numbers, but those numbers resulted from a high usage more than anything else. In reality, Paolo didn't have much of an impact on their run to the playoffs. Which makes sense if you think about it - he's a talented but fairly inefficient volume scorer and an average defender.

Orlando's run to the playoffs last year was predominantly driven by their defense and - if any single individual player deserves to be mentioned - by Franz's all-around play. Which explains why they are being successful this season without Banchero. He's a big talent who raises their ceiling, but he's not the driving force behind their success. Meanwhile, Wagner's EPM has risen to +5.5 this season.

I think those metrics are interesting because they allow you to see trends emerge before they become common knowledge and to challenge preconceptions built on expectations and subjective eye test. When the collective assumption was that the Nuggets could never win a championship with Jokic because he was a "bad defender", the same metric(s) suggested that Jokic actually had a positive impact on defense, despite not being a rim protector. A few months later, the Nuggets won the championship, with their defense holding up against the likes of KD, LeBron, AD and Jimmy.

A lot of words to not even mention Goga Time

[KnixinSix]

I'm expecting an embarrassing lost. Hope for an uplifting win.

If the last game albeit vs lesser competition was a true sign that we have taken a step up in our gelling process we absolutely can win.


However if we haven't taken that step up yet we could easily lose. Orlando is clicking on all cylinders chemistry wise and is maximizing their rosters abilities.

Are we close to doing to same yet? Tonight we probably find out.

Honestly I think Orlando is the perfect test for us right now. Their defense is legit yet they are not so overwhelming good that we shouldn't expect to beat them if we play our best game at home.

If we can beat them handily it shows definite progress.

Maybe its a blessing that we a kinda defensively handicapped right now.
It forces our offensively minded players to focus more in that area. That should pay dividends when Mitch and Precious finally get back.

A great way to look at it Rhodey. It also forces our coach even to become better at coaching types of defenses he has shied away from in the past too.

[KnixinSix]

Another element to support the pertinence of advanced impact metrics.

The Magic are rolling without their "star" player Paolo Banchero. How could that happen if Banchero's their best player, which is the conventional wisdom? You would expect them to take a step back without him, right?

Well, EPM suggests that Banchero only had a moderate impact on winning last year (+0.2 EPM), while Franz Wagner was by far their most impactful player (+3.2 EPM).

Banchero made the All-Star team based on his big numbers, but those numbers resulted from a high usage more than anything else. In reality, Paolo didn't have much of an impact on their run to the playoffs. Which makes sense if you think about it - he's a talented but fairly inefficient volume scorer and an average defender.

Orlando's run to the playoffs last year was predominantly driven by their defense and - if any single individual player deserves to be mentioned - by Franz's all-around play. Which explains why they are being successful this season without Banchero. He's a big talent who raises their ceiling, but he's not the driving force behind their success. Meanwhile, Wagner's EPM has risen to +5.5 this season.

I think those metrics are interesting because they allow you to see trends emerge before they become common knowledge and to challenge preconceptions built on expectations and subjective eye test. When the collective assumption was that the Nuggets could never win a championship with Jokic because he was a "bad defender", the same metric(s) suggested that Jokic actually had a positive impact on defense, despite not being a rim protector. A few months later, the Nuggets won the championship, with their defense holding up against the likes of KD, LeBron, AD and Jimmy.

+1000 on this post.

That is excellent forward thinking perspective. The ability to see beyond the surface.

Knicks have so many intangible players right now too. So many. In theory when they gel and/or get Mitch/Precious back and/or Thibs puts them in better positions to succeed this team should really take off.

[robillionaire]

Must win game. Playoff elimination game atmosphere

[spree2kawhi]

The Wagner Bros.:
“I’m Franz.”
“And I’m Hans.”
“We’re here to pump Fuqq you up!”

Those Wagner boys are no joke

They really aren’t but at least they’re still somewhat inconsistent.

[Guano]

Another element to support the pertinence of advanced impact metrics.

The Magic are rolling without their "star" player Paolo Banchero. How could that happen if Banchero's their best player, which is the conventional wisdom? You would expect them to take a step back without him, right?

Well, EPM suggests that Banchero only had a moderate impact on winning last year (+0.2 EPM), while Franz Wagner was by far their most impactful player (+3.2 EPM).

Banchero made the All-Star team based on his big numbers, but those numbers resulted from a high usage more than anything else. In reality, Paolo didn't have much of an impact on their run to the playoffs. Which makes sense if you think about it - he's a talented but fairly inefficient volume scorer and an average defender.

Orlando's run to the playoffs last year was predominantly driven by their defense and - if any single individual player deserves to be mentioned - by Franz's all-around play. Which explains why they are being successful this season without Banchero. He's a big talent who raises their ceiling, but he's not the driving force behind their success. Meanwhile, Wagner's EPM has risen to +5.5 this season.

I think those metrics are interesting because they allow you to see trends emerge before they become common knowledge and to challenge preconceptions built on expectations and subjective eye test. When the collective assumption was that the Nuggets could never win a championship with Jokic because he was a "bad defender", the same metric(s) suggested that Jokic actually had a positive impact on defense, despite not being a rim protector. A few months later, the Nuggets won the championship, with their defense holding up against the likes of KD, LeBron, AD and Jimmy.

This is why youre one of the best. I appreciate when you use nerd talk to disparage players that meLo likes.

Rooting for Kirkland brand Melo when he isn't even better than the guy who looks like a teen movie villain. Sad times for meLo.

[knicks94]

This should be Mikal's most important game of his career. If he has a bad game the bandwagon that he built during the NO's game will quickly go south.

We don't even need Mikal to be a 20+ scorer each night as we have PLENTY of scorers on these team starting with Brunson/KAT.

However we DO need him to play at the high defensive level he is clearly capable of night in and night out.

If his shot is not as 'on' tonight that will likely totally be fine as long as he isnt a brick machine AND he plays his normal high level and effort defensive game.

I am not asking Mikal to play the role of Peter, James or John. I just want him to be the defensive specialist that we gave up draft picks for.

[TheGreenArrow]

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[Iron Mantis]

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If I were into sports betting I'd drop $1000 on the magic. I know he and his buddies surely have.

Nothing personal against my knicks. It's just business in Silver's corrupt NBA

[cgf]

Should be a really interesting test for us, even with all of the injuries. Definitely winnable if we are sharp, but that team is still so big & tough.

[cgf]

Another element to support the pertinence of advanced impact metrics.

The Magic are rolling without their "star" player Paolo Banchero. How could that happen if Banchero's their best player, which is the conventional wisdom? You would expect them to take a step back without him, right?

Well, EPM suggests that Banchero only had a moderate impact on winning last year (+0.2 EPM), while Franz Wagner was by far their most impactful player (+3.2 EPM).

Banchero made the All-Star team based on his big numbers, but those numbers resulted from a high usage more than anything else. In reality, Paolo didn't have much of an impact on their run to the playoffs. Which makes sense if you think about it - he's a talented but fairly inefficient volume scorer and an average defender.

Orlando's run to the playoffs last year was predominantly driven by their defense and - if any single individual player deserves to be mentioned - by Franz's all-around play. Which explains why they are being successful this season without Banchero. He's a big talent who raises their ceiling, but he's not the driving force behind their success. Meanwhile, Wagner's EPM has risen to +5.5 this season.

I think those metrics are interesting because they allow you to see trends emerge before they become common knowledge and to challenge preconceptions built on expectations and subjective eye test. When the collective assumption was that the Nuggets could never win a championship with Jokic because he was a "bad defender", the same metric(s) suggested that Jokic actually had a positive impact on defense, despite not being a rim protector. A few months later, the Nuggets won the championship, with their defense holding up against the likes of KD, LeBron, AD and Jimmy.

Eh. Franz missed a lot of time last season and they didn’t skip a beat even with him coming back at less than 100%. That team is just really deep and full of length/toughness.