1/23/25: Bulls at Dubs

[Onus]

This may be the closest we have ever been to Kerr finally playing Steph, Moody, Wiggins, Kuminga, Dray together... you know, our 3 best players and 2 lotto picks that have NEVER played together.

(kind of a lie, they have played ONE possession in 4 years)

I actually feel like Gui is ahead of Moody on the depth chart. Doesn't Gui come in earlier than Moody? Wonder what happens when Dray and JK come back

I don't think Moody and Santos are competing for minutes, and Santos has just seemed ahead recently because Dray/JK/Kyle are all out and play PF, which has been the role Kerr has Santos playing. Moody has consistently been battling for minutes with Wiggins, Buddy, Lindy, and GP2.

To me the 1/2/3 positions seem easy enough if Kerr just stops playing Steph/Dennis together and makes the decision to only use GP2/Lindy in emergencies or with injuries...

Steph (30) Dennis (18)
Podz (24) Buddy (18) Moody (6)
Wiggins (30) Moody (18)

Frontcourt gets pretty crowded pretty quick if everyone is healthy. Reality is there is no way each game we just rotate every few minutes to get all our centers minutes, so its easier to look at it like:

Kuminga is getting 26 minutes at PF.
Dray is getting 28 minutes at PF/C.

So 42 available for a whole lot of players (Trayce, Loon, Post, Kyle, Santos). My guess is Kyle and Loon get pushed out initially to see what Santos and Post can do over a stretch of games. Which of course is somewhat typical that Kerr is doing this a right before the deadline instead of already having these answers.

Moody is a 3/4 for us. He gets blown by too easily as a 2, which is why he's always struggled to get minutes for Kerr. Kerr recently said Moody has excelled for us at the 4. So yea Moody and Gui will be battling for minutes with JK and Dray or minutes at the 3 if they want to be a part of this rotation. GP2 needs to be out of the rotation but Kerr loves playing him so he'll probably get some minutes at the 3 since he has such good chemistry with Steph.

I agree Kyle, Waters and maybe Loon or TJD will be out of the rotation once we get full squad back.

[EvanZ]

Moody had 4 blocks yesterday. He's basically a small 5 now lol.

[EvanZ]

People really need to chill with the shiny object syndrome. We've seen it so many times. Let's see what happens when Gui and Post are on scouting reports, go through cold spells, etc. It's crazy to me how it takes 4 years for Moody to get any buy in, but one good game from Post and he's GOATed. Do you all not see that? I get the optimism in a sea of ****, but come on. How many Lindy Waters, Anthony Lambs, Erich Paschalls, etc do you we need to see go through the same cycle?

[jozef]

Moody at 4 is silly dwarf idea. Post committed 5 fouls in 15 minutes. Calm down. Bulls are sub .500 team.

[Onus]

Moody doesn’t get a single minute as a 2 but everyone wants to play him there because he’s short. He’s really a 3 that can move up or down in a pinch but his handles, foot speed, and slow shot prevent him from being a 2 full time.

GUI literally gets into the game before moody does even with all of these injuries. That’s why he’s likely higher in Kerr’s mind.

[michaelm]

It's funny how people took until last night's game to realize GPII isn't a starter. Neither is Buddy. Neither is Shroder.

This team right now should be starting Steph, Moody, Wiggins, and whomever else is playing best. I highly doubt Gui and Post are long term answers but if they are the other two starters right now, that's fine with me.

Maybe Kerr has trouble finding a defined role for Moody but he is supposed to be an X factor coach who identified the fit of Curry and Green.

Moody had stellar numbers in the playoffs when he was given some sort of chance. Maybe he doesn’t fit with the roster or Kerr’s playing scheme but he at least helps avoid Kerr’s micro small ball units, and I can’t see how playing G league and 2 way players not even being considered for permanent roster spots, whom Kerr apparently regarded as offering better fit, as Kerr frequently did last year ahead of him particularly when the team is losing with those players makes any kind of sense.

[Crazy-Canuck]

It's funny how people took until last night's game to realize GPII isn't a starter. Neither is Buddy. Neither is Shroder.

This team right now should be starting Steph, Moody, Wiggins, and whomever else is playing best. I highly doubt Gui and Post are long term answers but if they are the other two starters right now, that's fine with me.

Maybe Kerr has trouble finding a defined role for Moody but he is supposed to be an X factor coach who identified the fit of Curry and Green.

Moody had stellar numbers in the playoffs when he was given some sort of chance. Maybe he doesn’t fit with the roster or Kerr’s playing scheme but he at least helps avoid Kerr’s micro small ball units, and I can’t see how playing G league and 2 way players not even being considered for permanent roster spots, whom Kerr apparently regards as offering better fit, as Kerr frequently did last year ahead of him particularly when the team is losing with those players makes any kind of sense.

I think Moody is a utility man. He's not great at any specific position, but can mesh is as the 5th best player to fill in the gaps.

Steph, moody, wiggs, dray, and loon worked well in their stints the past few years.

He can play more 3/4 now because we are playing more pace and space with size. He's been great attacking closeout and hitting his 3 ball. Once dray and jk back, we will go back to a slower half court gane with no shooting. That's just our roster and how Kerr likes to utilize them.

[cladden]

Levine and Vuc would be a dumber JRich and Murphy. So glad they arent Warriors.

I quite enjoyed Troy as an early stretch 4 back in the day. Not that I watched him in Indiana but this is quite the season:

2008-09: 45% on threes shooting 5.6 a game and grabbing 11.8 boards in 34 mins/game.

I know he had his shortcomings but still, that comment made me smile

[Jester_]

Levine and Vuc would be a dumber JRich and Murphy. So glad they arent Warriors.

I quite enjoyed Troy as an early stretch 4 back in the day. Not that I watched him in Indiana but this is quite the season:

2008-09: 45% on threes shooting 5.6 a game and grabbing 11.8 boards in 34 mins/game.

I know he had his shortcomings but still, that comment made me smile

he was honestly ahead of his time.

tbh a lot of our players were... anthony morrow went undrafted, man is an easy first round pick nowadays

[RUN-TJM]

People really need to chill with the shiny object syndrome. We've seen it so many times. Let's see what happens when Gui and Post are on scouting reports, go through cold spells, etc. It's crazy to me how it takes 4 years for Moody to get any buy in, but one good game from Post and he's GOATed. Do you all not see that? I get the optimism in a sea of ****, but come on. How many Lindy Waters, Anthony Lambs, Erich Paschalls, etc do you we need to see go through the same cycle?

You’re probably right re the scouting reports but I like Gui as a rotation player as he contests the boards well, is full of energy on defence, can pass and has good shot mechanics but doesn’t shoot 3’s unless open.

The book is out on Moody. Can’t stay in front of his man on the perimeter which limits his matchups. Close out hard on him and run him off the 3 point line, make him put the ball on the floor. He can still be a good rotation player for us but needs to figure out how to use his massive wingspan to better effect on D. He’s a 3/4 but behind Wiggins who is our 2nd best player and a glut of fours who can do a little more. I reallllly wanted Jalen Johnson at 14. Would’ve taken him over JK too…. Anyway.

[RUN-TJM]

Levine and Vuc would be a dumber JRich and Murphy. So glad they arent Warriors.

I quite enjoyed Troy as an early stretch 4 back in the day. Not that I watched him in Indiana but this is quite the season:

2008-09: 45% on threes shooting 5.6 a game and grabbing 11.8 boards in 34 mins/game.

I know he had his shortcomings but still, that comment made me smile

he was honestly ahead of his time.

tbh a lot of our players were... anthony morrow went undrafted, man is an easy first round pick nowadays

The J-Rich, Murph and Gil draft was waaaay ahead of its time. Stretch 4. Volume 3pt 2guard, Gil as Gil.