The Miami Heat are suspending Jimmy Butler indefinitely

[Ambrose]

Suspending him on and off is just killing his trade value. Had they suspended him indefinitely from the start maybe better offers would have come.

Right now this dude is looking like a nutcase and the more stories coming out is just scaring off the potential teams who would gamble on him.

His value was never high because he only wants to go to one team. Let him walk in the offseason.

Because that team is willing to pay him his money. This is all about money for Jimmy. The Heat should have seen this coming the moment they declined to give him the money.

Know your players Riley. Should have traded him in the off-season. Jimmy came into camp ready to cause drama now the Heat have to deal with the consequences.


I'm not defending Jimmy im just saying they should have addressed this way earlier. Dragging this nonsense into the middle of the season was just asking for trouble.

Riley thought he could get 1 more year out of Jimmy in the Heat culture. He forgot Jimmy blows up teams on his time. Deal with it.

Hindsight is 20/20. The Miami Heat have no obligation to give Jimmy what he wants to the detriment of their team.

[AmusingFiddle]

Jimmy is embarrassing himself entitlement at its finest

We have seen this before with Jimmy. Miami has nobody to blame but themselves. This is the risk you take when you take on this personality. Jimmy been blowing up teams for most of his career. It's what he does.

No they don’t. To be honest getting rid off his cap is probably more valuable to them then whatever is Jimmy’s trade value at this point. Suspending him is actually saving the Heat real money. Good on them. Jimmy has only him to blame for costing himself a paycheck going forward this year

Again, suspension does not equate to tax savings. NBAPA will file a grievance and most likely Heat will lose their claim. This is a very bad look for Butler but more so for the Heat.

Pat wants serviceable players this season so they can make the playoffs and avoid losing their 2025 FRP. How is suspending him indefinitely helping this cause? Stupid all around. Immaturity/Ego on both sides.

[Dr Aki]

Once Butler is traded, he's gonna have the players union file a grievance and recoup most if not all of his docked salary back

[floppymoose]

His value was never high because he only wants to go to one team. Let him walk in the offseason.

^ THIS

[twozeroMM]

Riley is embarrassing himself.

Just trade him already dude.

I don't understand how this is embarrassing on the Heat's part. Like why would they rush a trade when they don't have to, especailly if they can keep him away with suspensions like this?

Suspending him on and off is just killing his trade value. Had they suspended him indefinitely from the start maybe better offers would have come.

Right now this dude is looking like a nutcase and the more stories coming out is just scaring off the potential teams who would gamble on him.

His trade value isn't changing at all based of this suspension or the last. Teams know what it is, and what they're getting into with him.
Also they couldn't suspend him indefinitely from the jump because at the time Jimmy didn't do anything warranted for an indefinite suspension.

And your second part is also what teams have known about JB.

[ImSlower]

Bulls-era Butler was just so damn fun to root for. He was my avatar here for a couple years. His eccentricity - a polite way for me to say that he's an unrepentant, team-ruining arrogant prick - makes him so thoroughly unlikable now. I know he wants his max extension more than anything, but his legacy will be "ringless prima donna".

[Residual-Heat]

send him to the g-league

[AleksandarN]

We have seen this before with Jimmy. Miami has nobody to blame but themselves. This is the risk you take when you take on this personality. Jimmy been blowing up teams for most of his career. It's what he does.

No they don’t. To be honest getting rid off his cap is probably more valuable to them then whatever is Jimmy’s trade value at this point. Suspending him is actually saving the Heat real money. Good on them. Jimmy has only him to blame for costing himself a paycheck going forward this year

Again, suspension does not equate to tax savings. NBAPA will file a grievance and most likely Heat will lose their claim. This is a very bad look for Butler but more so for the Heat.

Pat wants serviceable players this season so they can make the playoffs and avoid losing their 2025 FRP. How is suspending him indefinitely helping this cause? Stupid all around. Immaturity/Ego on both sides.

I didn’t say tax saving I am talking about actually money that goes to Butler himself. Also if Butler is not participating in team activities they have grounds to suspend him

[ryguy613]

Now I kinda hope they arent able to trade him by the deadline. i wanna see how this would play out for the remainder of the year. Riley vs Butler. Best man win.

[EmpireFalls]

How so? Holding someone accountable is an embarrassment?

Failing to deal with your franchise superstar and allowing the situation to completely hijack and ruin your season is an embarrassment, yes

How would you deal with him?

a) give him a max contract extension he isn't worth and mess up your team's future?
b) trade him to his desired destination and take back bad contracts and mess up your team's future?

c) Deal with it in the summer.

Look back at the history. Look back at his diva persona. Look at how it’s ended with previous stars.

Do not think that just entering a season with no contract and playing this precarious game is gonna work. Yeah, it’s stupid. You Heat fans are so far up Riley’s ass with his “culture” BS you can’t even see how much he’s bungled this situation. This halfway stuff never works.

[holdenwait]

can smell the disappointment of not having traded him already all the way from Chicago on this one lol

[beeshma]

Riley is embarrassing himself.

Just trade him already dude.

I don't understand how this is embarrassing on the Heat's part. Like why would they rush a trade when they don't have to, especailly if they can keep him away with suspensions like this?

I think the players have seen this happen 3 times now with LeBron, DWade, and now Butler. So players understand that Heat culture is to treat them like commodities, versus a Lakers culture that caters to their stars.

[BBallFreak]

Failing to deal with your franchise superstar and allowing the situation to completely hijack and ruin your season is an embarrassment, yes

How would you deal with him?

a) give him a max contract extension he isn't worth and mess up your team's future?
b) trade him to his desired destination and take back bad contracts and mess up your team's future?

c) Deal with it in the summer.

Look back at the history. Look back at his diva persona. Look at how it’s ended with previous stars.

Do not think that just entering a season with no contract and playing this precarious game is gonna work. Yeah, it’s stupid. You Heat fans are so far up Riley’s ass with his “culture” BS you can’t even see how much he’s bungled this situation. This halfway stuff never works.

Are you even aware of what you're saying?

Jimmy Butler is making $49 million this season and has a player option for $52 million next year. I don't know about you, but for $101 million, I'd feel pretty obligated to give my best.

And Riley didn't say, "I won't pay you." He said be available for more games and I'll pay you.

The revisionist history here is astounding!

[JustBuzzin]

His value was never high because he only wants to go to one team. Let him walk in the offseason.

Because that team is willing to pay him his money. This is all about money for Jimmy. The Heat should have seen this coming the moment they declined to give him the money.

Know your players Riley. Should have traded him in the off-season. Jimmy came into camp ready to cause drama now the Heat have to deal with the consequences.


I'm not defending Jimmy im just saying they should have addressed this way earlier. Dragging this nonsense into the middle of the season was just asking for trouble.

Riley thought he could get 1 more year out of Jimmy in the Heat culture. He forgot Jimmy blows up teams on his time. Deal with it.

Hindsight is 20/20. The Miami Heat have no obligation to give Jimmy what he wants to the detriment of their team.

That's true. Now deal with the nonsense that comes with Jimmy.

Don't ask for sympathy when you know what a unhappy Jimmy Butler brings. They could have traded him the moment they declined to give him an extension. Now we have a big circus and Miami is pretty much stuck with him or trading him for little value.

But Riley can do know wrong ehh...

[TheGeneral99]

Riley is embarrassing himself.

Just trade him already dude.

Riley gave him 150m contract in his mid-30s.

[EmpireFalls]

How would you deal with him?

a) give him a max contract extension he isn't worth and mess up your team's future?
b) trade him to his desired destination and take back bad contracts and mess up your team's future?

c) Deal with it in the summer.

Look back at the history. Look back at his diva persona. Look at how it’s ended with previous stars.

Do not think that just entering a season with no contract and playing this precarious game is gonna work. Yeah, it’s stupid. You Heat fans are so far up Riley’s ass with his “culture” BS you can’t even see how much he’s bungled this situation. This halfway stuff never works.

Are you even aware of what you're saying?

Jimmy Butler is making $49 million this season and has a player option for $52 million next year. I don't know about you, but for $101 million, I'd feel pretty obligated to give my best.

And Riley didn't say, "I won't pay you." He said be available for more games and I'll pay you.

The revisionist history here is astounding!

You have to act early in the NBA. He didn’t and is now paying the price.

[Finchination33]

Inject all this drama straight into my veins, this is brilliant stuff.

[TheGeneral99]

Bulls-era Butler was just so damn fun to root for. He was my avatar here for a couple years. His eccentricity - a polite way for me to say that he's an unrepentant, team-ruining arrogant prick - makes him so thoroughly unlikable now. I know he wants his max extension more than anything, but his legacy will be "ringless prima donna".

I mean two things can be true simultaneously:

1) Butler is highly underrated and what he did leading a pretty average Heat roster to the finals 2 times in the last 5 years is just unbelievable. His 2020 and 2023 playoff runs are legendary and he knocked out some great teams with incredible performances.

2) He's also an insufferable prick who lacks professionalism.

[Enzo954]

Love what Riley is doing here. Tired of superstar players pouting and whining demanding trades when things don't go the way they want. It's ruined the NBA over the last few decades. I miss the days when stars stayed loyal to their teams through the good and bad. Riely will make his move when he sees fit. Opposing teams take advantage of the team that needs to trade their dissatisfied star.

[davidv2001]

Butler continues to act like a clown and sabotage his ability to get a trade. Someone in his inner circle needs to slap some sense in him.