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Re: Bulls @ Magic 6pm CT Mar. 6 2025 

Post#61 » by WindyCityBorn » Fri Mar 7, 2025 2:53 am

burlydee wrote:We should be trying to lose these games, but I've developed a healthy dislike of Carter so I'm glad to see him lose.


No Vuc, Ball, Ayo. Collins basically didn’t play. We still won. Players are not going to throw games. They don’t give a damn about the draft.
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Re: Bulls @ Magic 6pm CT Mar. 6 2025 

Post#62 » by MrSparkle » Fri Mar 7, 2025 2:53 am

I can't believe we're now 3 games behind Orlando. TBF they have missed their 3 best players for atleast half of the season. But yes, as we surpass SAS, we will lose 6% in top-4 odds.
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Re: Bulls @ Magic 6pm CT Mar. 6 2025 

Post#63 » by Guru » Fri Mar 7, 2025 2:54 am

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Red8911 wrote:Disagree with Stacey’s idea about lottery teams playing each other for the top pick. There needs to be a change but not that. Players don’t give a sht to play hard for a pick.


Yeah, that's a bad idea.

I've said it a million times... Just ditch weighted odds... Make it a fair lottery for all 30 teams...

If the Celtics win Cooper Flagg, then good for them. One thing is that (a) great prospects need playing time, but great teams still need to manage their minutes against vets. (b) great prospects get the max. Great teams might not have that money available, so they'd have to shed vets.

Seems like the new hard cap rules, more frequent trade movement makes for a more liquid league anyway. Personally I think it'd be wonderful if a treadmill team trying really hard to win games was able to be in the mix for a #1 pick. That's the best case for a really good pick: they get to join a solid team and put them in a better position to advance in playoffs, instead of being part of a 3-year dumpster fire that may or may not develop (cough, LaMelo, Zion, etc.).

It would also throw a real wild-card into trades, as all of a sudden teams have zero guarantees on both ends of where that pick may land (anywhere from 1-30). So unprotected picks become either a massive gamble or a massive trade asset, or you could carve really particular pick protections.


This would ruin the sport and is probably the worst idea I've ever heard. The weighted odds and salary cap are what make sports fun.
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Re: Bulls @ Magic 6pm CT Mar. 6 2025 

Post#64 » by Jcool0 » Fri Mar 7, 2025 2:54 am

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madvillian wrote:Why the **** is Matas not playing more? He's earned 30mpg.


Played 29 tonight.


First close game Billy didn't bench him in the 2nd half.
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Re: Bulls @ Magic 6pm CT Mar. 6 2025 

Post#65 » by WindyCityBorn » Fri Mar 7, 2025 2:55 am

MrSparkle wrote:I can't believe we're now 3 games behind Orlando. TBF they have missed their 3 best players for atleast half of the season. But yes, as we surpass SAS, we will lose 6% in top-4 odds.


How many games are the Spurs ahead of us?
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Re: Bulls @ Magic 6pm CT Mar. 6 2025 

Post#66 » by boozapalooza » Fri Mar 7, 2025 2:55 am

Well, Tre Jones is gonna play his way into an extension with us isnt he.
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Re: Bulls @ Magic 6pm CT Mar. 6 2025 

Post#67 » by 2weekswithpay » Fri Mar 7, 2025 2:55 am

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2weekswithpay wrote:So can we work out a Coby trade with the Magic this summer?

Why would we do that when Coby just outplayed every player on the Magic?


He was better last season and if the team plans on keeping Giddey, one of the other guards should be traded. Coby should bring a better return than Ayo so he goes.

Giving both Coby and Giddey new contracts isn't ideal.
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Re: Bulls @ Magic 6pm CT Mar. 6 2025 

Post#68 » by MrSparkle » Fri Mar 7, 2025 2:57 am

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MrSparkle wrote:I can't believe we're now 3 games behind Orlando. TBF they have missed their 3 best players for atleast half of the season. But yes, as we surpass SAS, we will lose 6% in top-4 odds.


How many games are the Spurs ahead of us?


2.5 I think. The only assurance is they have a fairly easy schedule rest of the way.
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Re: Bulls @ Magic 6pm CT Mar. 6 2025 

Post#69 » by WindyCityBorn » Fri Mar 7, 2025 2:57 am

Wish Giddey could have gotten that triple double. He flirts with one every night.
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Post#70 » by Mk0 » Fri Mar 7, 2025 2:58 am

boozapalooza wrote:Well, Tre Jones is gonna play his way into an extension with us isnt he.

Tre Jones was the best player we got back. Collins is always hurt, but a good 3rd string C. Tre Jones is actually a solid PG.

His issue is his size (not that big of a deal for a backup) and that we have 9 guards on the roster.
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Re: Bulls @ Magic 6pm CT Mar. 6 2025 

Post#71 » by cocktailswith_2short » Fri Mar 7, 2025 2:58 am

Matas and giddey were pumped to win . They have heart it matters . Shaq blaming the magics lose on plyometrics.
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Re: Bulls @ Magic 6pm CT Mar. 6 2025 

Post#72 » by League Circles » Fri Mar 7, 2025 2:58 am

boozapalooza wrote:Well, Tre Jones is gonna play his way into an extension with us isnt he.

If he does that would be deeply insane. We don't need 6 pgs next year. If he gets a new deal that probably means we had to cut our 2nd round pick.
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Re: Bulls @ Magic 6pm CT Mar. 6 2025 

Post#73 » by Brothaman33 » Fri Mar 7, 2025 2:58 am

Lol...

Forgive me...but I enjoyed watching that game. The prospect of going up 3% to 8% on a pick, or whatever it is, is just not enough for me to be pissed after every win.

Coby was fun to watch. 44 points and getting it whenever he wanted. Buzelis crunch time minutes. Tre Jones was really good. Yea...we suck. And after this win we'll still suck and maybe get pick 8 instead of 7.

Shrug?

Also, the Magic are...not very good right now either. They have alot of injuries to boot, i assume they run everything back. They need guards bad.
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Re: Bulls @ Magic 6pm CT Mar. 6 2025 

Post#74 » by kulaz3000 » Fri Mar 7, 2025 2:58 am

boozapalooza wrote:Well, Tre Jones is gonna play his way into an extension with us isnt he.


That's not a bad thing, he is a really good player.
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Re: Bulls @ Magic 6pm CT Mar. 6 2025 

Post#75 » by Mk0 » Fri Mar 7, 2025 2:58 am

Coby was a monster. I thought he was gonna get 50 there. Dude was cooking.
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Re: Bulls @ Magic 6pm CT Mar. 6 2025 

Post#76 » by WindyCityBorn » Fri Mar 7, 2025 2:59 am

2weekswithpay wrote:
LikeMike23 wrote:
2weekswithpay wrote:So can we work out a Coby trade with the Magic this summer?

Why would we do that when Coby just outplayed every player on the Magic?


He was better last season and if the team plans on keeping Giddey, one of the other guards should be traded. Coby should bring a better return than Ayo so he goes.

Giving both Coby and Giddey new contracts isn't ideal.


Coby and Ayo are both up for new deals in 2026 so either way we are paying two guards unless we trade both of them.
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Re: Bulls @ Magic 6pm CT Mar. 6 2025 

Post#77 » by MrSparkle » Fri Mar 7, 2025 2:59 am

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Red8911 wrote:Disagree with Stacey’s idea about lottery teams playing each other for the top pick. There needs to be a change but not that. Players don’t give a sht to play hard for a pick.


Yeah, that's a bad idea.

I've said it a million times... Just ditch weighted odds... Make it a fair lottery for all 30 teams...

If the Celtics win Cooper Flagg, then good for them. One thing is that (a) great prospects need playing time, but great teams still need to manage their minutes against vets. (b) great prospects get the max. Great teams might not have that money available, so they'd have to shed vets.

Seems like the new hard cap rules, more frequent trade movement makes for a more liquid league anyway. Personally I think it'd be wonderful if a treadmill team trying really hard to win games was able to be in the mix for a #1 pick. That's the best case for a really good pick: they get to join a solid team and put them in a better position to advance in playoffs, instead of being part of a 3-year dumpster fire that may or may not develop (cough, LaMelo, Zion, etc.).

It would also throw a real wild-card into trades, as all of a sudden teams have zero guarantees on both ends of where that pick may land (anywhere from 1-30). So unprotected picks become either a massive gamble or a massive trade asset, or you could carve really particular pick protections.


This would ruin the sport and is probably the worst idea I've ever heard. The weighted odds and salary cap are what make sports fun.


You like watching almost 10 tank jobs for ~40 games every season? With 3-5 blatantly throwing the season from the opening game?

You wouldn't prefer where teams all try to be the best they can be?

It's not like equal odds would mean all the best players end up on the best team. Each team would get a 3.3% chance at the 1st pick, and it's a completely random draw from there. The only thing it would guarantee is no team tries to throw a season away, cause there'd be no point.
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Re: Bulls @ Magic 6pm CT Mar. 6 2025 

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Re: Bulls @ Magic 6pm CT Mar. 6 2025 

Post#79 » by Mk0 » Fri Mar 7, 2025 2:59 am

WindyCityBorn wrote:Wish Giddey could have gotten that triple double. He flirts with one every night.

19-13-9 is a beast of a statline. My goodness.
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Re: Bulls @ Magic 6pm CT Mar. 6 2025 

Post#80 » by WindyCityBorn » Fri Mar 7, 2025 3:00 am

League Circles wrote:
boozapalooza wrote:Well, Tre Jones is gonna play his way into an extension with us isnt he.

If he does that would be deeply insane. We don't need 6 pgs next year. If he gets a new deal that probably means we had to cut our 2nd round pick.


2nd round pick most likely isn’t gonna isn’t amount to anything.

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