GT: Celtics @ Knicks, Game 4 Monday 7:30pm ET

[Strick]

Scott Foster the extender tonight… a must win may have gotten a little tougher

[Jeff Van Gully]

KFS had a good point in the game 3 PG. If you start Mitch, it can mess up their hack a Mitch strategy. Now you have starters taking these fouls and that could lead to foul trouble throughout the game for BOS. Just for that reason alone I would consider it.

there's a part of me that wants to see it as a FU to boston. in that scenario i'd almost love to see josh hart sitting on the bench smiling about it. eating mike and ikes. (would also be an ill sponsorship.)

the other side of that is i don't want to see boston benefitting from a possible inability to push pace off stops because we made a major change to address hack-a-mitch. it's a good one.

i hear someone say just being quick with the mitch for hart sub. could also be an approach.

Hart would absolutely do it smiling.

man, that would be goated.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Scott Foster the extender tonight… a must win may have gotten a little tougher

[Jeff Van Gully]

We've had like 3 incredible quarters in the playoffs and been unimpressive the rest of the time. Game 3 was our chance to put it all together and we embarrassed ourselves. Please take out Mitch if he can't hit a FT, he's not stopping their 3pt attack which is the main issue, it's slowing the tempo to give the injured Celtics rest, and it's killing our morale. Precious and Huk can grab rebounds and not be complete liabilities.

48 minutes. Win or lose, I just want to see a good 48 minutes of basketball (or a Knicks blow out).

guard knowledge for the guard hour.

[Gravy]

Start Mitch bench KAT. Lets go

[Jeff Van Gully]

Hopefully Thibs has one more adjustment left in the tank. I doubt it, but let’s pray he makes the obvious one we all want and starts Mitch. If he does, this is a win..

I'm sick of watching Thibs coach this team the same way I was sick of JVG coaching and not at all upset once he was let go.

Tired of watching "good" defense with offensively boring, outdated approaches. It was true for JVG when he got canned, it's true for Thibs right now.

JVG wasn't fired. he did the opposite of getting fired.

[JayTWill]

Robinson is at 44% from the field. As bad as the free throw shooting is, the field goal percentage is somehow more disappointing. The free throws don’t even count towards your field goal percentage so how is he that bad from the field when all he does is look to dunk when next to the basket.

Josh Hart is at 51% from the field despite the 28% that is factored into that percentage.

Not to mention the difference in PPG and APG

Hart has actually been one of our most constant starters in this series, the focus needs to be on the others who have not been very consistent. Brunson, Mikal and OG need to bring it tonight

They are largely ignoring Hart and daring him to beat us. If they were guarding other players the way they guard Hart they would be shooting well too. Josh Hart does different things that impact the game in a positive way but simply comparing his percentages to others isn't a good indicator of what he actually does.

These are his shots from the last game. Look at how little defensive attention he is given and how his defender is impacting his teammates. It's great for Hart's number even though he didn't have a great shooting performance but it makes it difficult for others to get into a rhythm in the half court.

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&ContextMeasure=FGA&EndPeriod=0&EndRange=28800&GameID=0042400213&PlayerID=1628404&RangeType=0&Season=2024-25&SeasonType=Playoffs&StartPeriod=0&StartRange=0&TeamID=1610612752&flag=3&sct=plot&section=game

Even when Hart shoots good percentages he is such a low volume player that the opposing team is not worried about him going off. They are willing to let him do his thing while trying to keep the others contained.

[spree8]

Start Mitch bench Hart. Lets go

Fixed

[MrDollarBills]

Start Mitch bench KAT. Lets go

....why?

[Wildcat]

Start Mitch bench KAT. Lets go

....why?

I ain't with that metric, but I believe there's a stat that's show Mitch/OG/Mikal/Hart/JB is on par with KAT/Mitch/OG/Mikal/JB. Something like that. Don't quote me word for word.

[MrDollarBills]

Robinson is at 44% from the field. As bad as the free throw shooting is, the field goal percentage is somehow more disappointing. The free throws don’t even count towards your field goal percentage so how is he that bad from the field when all he does is look to dunk when next to the basket.

Josh Hart is at 51% from the field despite the 28% that is factored into that percentage.

Not to mention the difference in PPG and APG

Hart has actually been one of our most constant starters in this series, the focus needs to be on the others who have not been very consistent. Brunson, Mikal and OG need to bring it tonight

They are largely ignoring Hart and daring him to beat us. If they were guarding other players the way they guard Hart they would be shooting well too. Josh Hart does different things that impact the game in a positive way but simply comparing his percentages to others isn't a good indicator of what he actually does.

These are his shots from the last game. Look at how little defensive attention he is given and how his defender is impacting his teammates. It's great for Hart's number even though he didn't have a great shooting performance but it makes it difficult for others to get into a rhythm in the half court.

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&ContextMeasure=FGA&EndPeriod=0&EndRange=28800&GameID=0042400213&PlayerID=1628404&RangeType=0&Season=2024-25&SeasonType=Playoffs&StartPeriod=0&StartRange=0&TeamID=1610612752&flag=3&sct=plot&section=game

Even when Hart shoots good percentages he is such a low volume player that the opposing team is not worried about him going off. They are willing to let him do his thing while trying to keep the others contained.

The Celtics are literally leaving Josh unguarded, I don't know how anyone can watch these 3 games and remotely think that Hart's presence/the way Tom uses him is helping the other 4 starters when his defender floats around playing free safety.

Meanwhile, Mitch is a legit presence defensively and is a lob threat/offensive rebounding threat, and allows Karl to play PF and space. If Boston leaves him open around the rim it's an automatic dunk.

[MrDollarBills]

Start Mitch bench KAT. Lets go

....why?

I ain't with that metric, but I believe there's a stat that's show Mitch/OG/Mikal/Hart/JB is on par with KAT/Mitch/OG/Mikal/JB. Something like that. Don't quote me word for word.

I believe it.

[HEZI]

Robinson is at 44% from the field. As bad as the free throw shooting is, the field goal percentage is somehow more disappointing. The free throws don’t even count towards your field goal percentage so how is he that bad from the field when all he does is look to dunk when next to the basket.

Josh Hart is at 51% from the field despite the 28% that is factored into that percentage.

Not to mention the difference in PPG and APG

Hart has actually been one of our most constant starters in this series, the focus needs to be on the others who have not been very consistent. Brunson, Mikal and OG need to bring it tonight

They are largely ignoring Hart and daring him to beat us. If they were guarding other players the way they guard Hart they would be shooting well too. Josh Hart does different things that impact the game in a positive way but simply comparing his percentages to others isn't a good indicator of what he actually does.

These are his shots from the last game. Look at how little defensive attention he is given and how his defender is impacting his teammates. It's great for Hart's number even though he didn't have a great shooting performance but it makes it difficult for others to get into a rhythm in the half court.

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&ContextMeasure=FGA&EndPeriod=0&EndRange=28800&GameID=0042400213&PlayerID=1628404&RangeType=0&Season=2024-25&SeasonType=Playoffs&StartPeriod=0&StartRange=0&TeamID=1610612752&flag=3&sct=plot&section=game

Even when Hart shoots good percentages he is such a low volume player that the opposing team is not worried about him going off. They are willing to let him do his thing while trying to keep the others contained.

This is exactly what we want. We went Horford or Porzingis on Hart because they are much more valuable on the interior defensively than they are away from the basket. Hart needs to just shoot his open shots and that threat alone will force them to move up even a little bit which will help our interior scoring. This worked in games 1 and 2 and helped us win.

In games 1 and 2 Hart attempted a total of 11 three pointers. 5 in one and 6 in another. In those two games Horford and Porzingis only had 2 blocks Total. Total! In games 3 where Hart only attempted 3 three pointers and was passing up shots, Horford and Porzingis had 5 blocks together. This included times where KAT and Robinson were on the court together and were getting their shyt sent back on the inside.

[DaGawd]

stop going down by 20 fking points

[Jeff Van Gully]

as we approach the end of today's pre-game guard hour, the guards build.

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this part of the season is everything we worked for. win or lose, who are we?

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i believe it was the great prophet of chaos nedleeds who reminded us there's no easy way out or shortcut home.

not gonna lie, vibes far from immaculate right now. kinda **** up, actually. we tend to mirror what happened on the floor with great recency bias. high. low. i get it. time to up the communication, toughness, and togetherness on the court and in the forum.

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tonight we dine in hell on earth. keep it thoro, my real rights.

[Gravy]

Start Mitch bench KAT. Lets go

....why?

Not 100% serious. But its funny that they are much better offensively and defensively with Mitch in the lineup. KAT gets into these lapses where he is invisible, he gotta stay aggressive.

[Chanel Bomber]

Scott Foster? No need to bother watching the game.

[dakomish23]

there's a part of me that wants to see it as a FU to boston. in that scenario i'd almost love to see josh hart sitting on the bench smiling about it. eating mike and ikes. (would also be an ill sponsorship.)

the other side of that is i don't want to see boston benefitting from a possible inability to push pace off stops because we made a major change to address hack-a-mitch. it's a good one.

i hear someone say just being quick with the mitch for hart sub. could also be an approach.

Hart would absolutely do it smiling.

man, that would be goated.

He might get a standing ovation if he went to Rosa's and brought a pie up while on the bench.

[LFGK]

Knicks offense sucks donkey d*ck.

Celtics win today, Pacers to the ECF, OkC and Minnesota to the WCF.

F*ck the NBA. I lost interest.

Would be nice of the Knicks to get in an offensive coach that has them capable of scoring 100 points with ease.

Meanwhile the cornball Pacers drop 120 casually on the bogus Cavs.

Again, f*ck the NBA.

Enjoy your sh*tty loss.

Jesus...

[LFGK]

Robinson is at 44% from the field. As bad as the free throw shooting is, the field goal percentage is somehow more disappointing. The free throws don’t even count towards your field goal percentage so how is he that bad from the field when all he does is look to dunk when next to the basket.

Josh Hart is at 51% from the field despite the 28% that is factored into that percentage.

Not to mention the difference in PPG and APG

Hart has actually been one of our most constant starters in this series, the focus needs to be on the others who have not been very consistent. Brunson, Mikal and OG need to bring it tonight

They are largely ignoring Hart and daring him to beat us. If they were guarding other players the way they guard Hart they would be shooting well too. Josh Hart does different things that impact the game in a positive way but simply comparing his percentages to others isn't a good indicator of what he actually does.

These are his shots from the last game. Look at how little defensive attention he is given and how his defender is impacting his teammates. It's great for Hart's number even though he didn't have a great shooting performance but it makes it difficult for others to get into a rhythm in the half court.

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&ContextMeasure=FGA&EndPeriod=0&EndRange=28800&GameID=0042400213&PlayerID=1628404&RangeType=0&Season=2024-25&SeasonType=Playoffs&StartPeriod=0&StartRange=0&TeamID=1610612752&flag=3&sct=plot&section=game

Even when Hart shoots good percentages he is such a low volume player that the opposing team is not worried about him going off. They are willing to let him do his thing while trying to keep the others contained.

This is exactly what we want. We went Horford or Porzingis on Hart because they are much more valuable on the interior defensively than they are away from the basket. Hart needs to just shoot his open shots and that threat alone will force them to move up even a little bit which will help our interior scoring. This worked in games 1 and 2 and helped us win.

In games 1 and 2 Hart attempted a total of 11 three pointers. 5 in one and 6 in another. In those two games Horford and Porzingis only had 2 blocks Total. Total! In games 3 where Hart only attempted 3 three pointers and was passing up shots, Horford and Porzingis had 5 blocks together. This included times where KAT and Robinson were on the court together and were getting their shyt sent back on the inside.

THIS. Hart needs to let it fly, no hesitate then put it up, if he makes it they wont be able to sag off all night, could also use him cutting to the rim from the corner off a screen at the top of the key, Use him in different ways. Knicks win tonight.