WCF: LA Lakers vs. San Antonio - Series LAL wins (4-1)

[HarlemHeat37]

I saw some bad calls against my own team, which is obvious, since everyone sees calls differently in favor/against their own team..I don't wanna name all the calls though, because I'm getting tired of the ref talk..the Lakers won, we lost..I already admitted that I thought we got more calls, I just disagree with most of you guys on the extent of it..did you guys forget the home team gets more favorable calls? it's not like LA doesn't ever, you guys know this..

[ChocolateThundr]

I actually agree with HarlemHeat on Tesla's point.

[LLcoleJ]

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it isn't..

I already admitted that the Spurs got more calls..but I strongly disagree that it was to the extent that many of your fellow Laker fans are making it out to be..I mention Duncan's travel, because that was a terribly blown call that will obviously stand out in the viewer's mind, and obviously make it seem like the Spurs were getting every call available and the Lakers weren't..

the Lakers got their fair share of calls too IMO..

regardless, reffing wasn't the reason the Lakers won or the Spurs lost..the Lakers outplayed us from start to finish, and more importantly, outhustled..

I just find it hard to ignore so many Laker fans getting defensive and ignoring the fact that their team got calls too, it wasn't 1-way..I thought Tesla's summary was perfect, and was a post I could respect and agree with..

Well, the majority of Laker fans agree and they recognize the foul. But we are defending that with other no calls. So, Tesla's post ( which was great ) was the core of what we are defending here. Duncans was just another one that was obvious to any viewer. So if we are in agreement that bad calls were made on both sides ( examples like the travel and Fisher ) then we will realize that the better team won tonight. Thats all.

[semi-sentient]

All the complaining about calls is really ruining the passing of the Western Conference torch.

The Spurs, assuming they go out, will do so with dignity. Fans should follow their lead.

As for the rest of the series, I think it's going to be tough to close out the Spurs regardless. What stands out in my mind is the Portland series where we nearly choked away a 3-1 lead, and the Phoenix series where we actually did choke it away.

This is still a young Lakers team, and we're one Spurs road victory away from this becoming yet another choke job. The Lakers absolutely must close this out in the next game, otherwise we have ourselves a major momentum shift. They are capable of doing it, so there's no reason to count them out. I have a hard time believing that Ginobili is going to put up yet another stinker, so the Spurs can absolutely steal a game in LA if the Lakers aren't fully focused and prepared.

On a side note, it's rather shocking that Kobe hasn't shot more free throws. The Spurs are playing him quite well, and other teams should be taking notes. 6 free throws in 4 games for Kobe? That's what you call phenomenal defense.

[YiYaoYue]

pop realized it wasn't the officiating that had them lose game 4, so he wasn't enraged like mike dantoni would have been about one call. If spurs were up the whole game and that call was blown, I'm sure pop would have been up in the ref's face about it, but he realized they caught a few breaks at the end and that lakers outplayed the spurs the whole game. So, pop said it was a good no call, even though he does feel it was a foul in his mind. Spurs were dead tired anyway, didn't seem like they would have made the type of comeback they did against the suns. Spurs need the rest to come back strong on the road.

[SunTzuMachiavelli]

you guys are funny.

Spurs fans
why would the NBA have a conspiracy against the spurs now? I don't think there's another team in the league that has a kinder whistle, I mean when was the last time bowen was suspended? One bad technical on Duncan a year ago in the regular season and all of a sudden there's a conspiracy.

Lakers fans
Kobe is not god, he didn't make you. He might be the best in the NBA but it's definitely up for opinion. To think Duncan or Paul or whoever is better doesn't make you a hater. To not think that the Lakers will win it all doesn't make you kobe hater. To hate the lakers doesn't even make you a kobe hater. Kobe is one person. Stop calling everyone a hater, you sound like the 500lb chick in the nightclub in a tube top mad at the skinny girls because she got no action that night. 'oh they hatin' on me!'. it's really idiotic.

[incontrol__]

Yes, but the reason we're talking about how you guys got home-cooking is because all these idiot posters saying how the series is "rigged", etc, because of the last call, when you guys got a fair bit of home-cooking* throughout the game and the last shot(/foul) would've been inconsequential had they correctly called the Ginobili 3 as a 2 and/or reset the shotclock after the Fisher shot (which hit the rim).

If it had have been rigged you would've gotten no home-cooking and the game would've ended a whole lot differently.

Lakers fans
Kobe is not god, he didn't make you. He might be the best in the NBA but it's definitely up for opinion. To think Duncan or Paul or whoever is better doesn't make you a hater. To not think that the Lakers will win it all doesn't make you kobe hater. To hate the lakers doesn't even make you a kobe hater. Kobe is one person. Stop calling everyone a hater, you sound like the 500lb chick in the nightclub in a tube top mad at the skinny girls because she got no action that night. 'oh they hatin' on me!'. it's really idiotic.

I'm pretty sure this is about JDawg's post.. Just so you know, JDawg is NOT a Laker fan. He is a Kobe fan only.

[HarlemHeat37]

this isn't the "Spurs fans"..most of us Spurs fans agreed that we got calls and we didn't deserve to win tonight..

[LLcoleJ]

Lakers fans
Kobe is not god, he didn't make you. He might be the best in the NBA but it's definitely up for opinion. To think Duncan or Paul or whoever is better doesn't make you a hater.

To be a fan of Kobe does not make you a Kobe Homer.

To not think that the Lakers will win it all doesn't make you kobe hater.

If you are reffering to JDawg, he is a Kobe fan , not a Laker fan.

To hate the lakers doesn't even make you a kobe hater.

see above

Kobe is one person. Stop calling everyone a hater, you sound like the 500lb chick in the nightclub in a tube top mad at the skinny girls because she got no action that night. 'oh they hatin' on me!'. it's really idiotic.

See above , again.

Man you really took one poster and wrapped it up into one giant generalization. Well done.

[andrewww]

I can't understand all these whinings, I'm a neutral fan and it was obvious that refs helped the Spurs whole night long. Yeah they made a mistake in the end but blaming the refs for the loss is not classy and fans of a champion franchise shouldn't act like that.

agreed. spurs got screwed at the end by a non call but the refs were favouring the spurs for most of the game, spurs fans really shouldnt be complaining that they got the short end of the stick when they were the ones who remained in the game thanks to a lot of bad calls going in favour of the home team.

[Predictor]

you guys are funny.


Lakers fans
Kobe is not god, he didn't make you.

Yes he is!!!

[incontrol__]

As for the rest of the series, I think it's going to be tough to close out the Spurs regardless.

Yep. The Phoenix series is still etched into my mind. This is a much better team, and the talent level of the teams is a whole lot closer, and most on this team should learn from that, but it's still going to be incredibly hard to close out the Spurs..

(the rest of your post was also pretty spot on, imo, btw)

[dockingsched]

so, lakers are up 3-1. most of the players on the roster experienced the 3-1 collapse to the suns a couple of years ago. with the way the lakers have been playing at home, the spurs have been playing on the road, and manu's obvious injury, the lakers are primed for a finals appearance.

its going to be difficult for barry to have a repeat performance, where as the lakers had a very well rounded scoring attack, with 7 players scoring more than 9, kobe being the only one with more than 16. manu's injury will probably ultimately prove to be too much to overcome.

[HarlemHeat37]

I'd actually be surprised to see us win game 5..

if the team couldn't hustle and have energy for this **** must-win game AT HOME, then I have no idea how they're going to do it next game in LA..another day means more fatigue and Manu's still hurt..there isn't really a reason to think the Spurs are going to win next game..

if they do, of course I'll be happy..but disappointed at the same time, that we couldn't come out with some **** effort in game 4..

[SunTzuMachiavelli]

this isn't the "Spurs fans"..most of us Spurs fans agreed that we got calls and we didn't deserve to win tonight..

just because you post half the spurs posts doesn't mean you have half of their word.

[HarlemHeat37]

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just because you post half the spurs posts doesn't mean you have half of their word.

that's so wise..teach me..

[LLcoleJ]

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just because you post half the spurs posts doesn't mean you have half of their word.

oh the irony

[SunTzuMachiavelli]

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oh the irony

i hate moderators.
i'm not going to talk about anything with you. go away.

[SunTzuMachiavelli]

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that's so wise..teach me..

look through this thread and look at the angry spurs posts.

[sine]

I know that the no-call was cosmic justice and all tonight, but it would make a lot of NBA fans (or me at least) feel better if the refs didn't blow obvious calls on last second plays that could change the outcome of a series.