09-10 WizFans Official Draft Thread

[closg00]

Things are looking up, we are in the running for John Wall and these other top picks from DX
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2010/

[closg00]

Were NBA scouts concerned about the way Ed Davis got manhandled on the boards by Dexter Pittman.

Chad Ford (1:57 PM)


Not really. Pittman has 70 pounds on Davis and it wasn't like Davis was terrible in that game (20 points, 10 boards). I think what it did do was raise Pittman's draft stock in the minds of a number of NBA decision makers. I think he's now firmly planted as a legit first round prospect -- might even go lottery if he keeps playing like he did against North Carolina. NBA GMs love big men and there is no one bigger than Pittman.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Dex ... tman-1182/


Possible Brendan Haywood replacement, dude isn't afraid to mix-it-up down-low. Risky because of his weight, but so was Blair.

[Ruzious]

Were NBA scouts concerned about the way Ed Davis got manhandled on the boards by Dexter Pittman.

Chad Ford (1:57 PM)


Not really. Pittman has 70 pounds on Davis and it wasn't like Davis was terrible in that game (20 points, 10 boards). I think what it did do was raise Pittman's draft stock in the minds of a number of NBA decision makers. I think he's now firmly planted as a legit first round prospect -- might even go lottery if he keeps playing like he did against North Carolina. NBA GMs love big men and there is no one bigger than Pittman.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Dex ... tman-1182/


Possible Brendan Haywood replacement, dude isn't afraid to mix-it-up down-low. Risky because of his weight, but so was Blair.

The guy he reminds me of is Perkins on the Celtics - who also had a weight problem that slowed his development. Now, he's a starting center with a championship ring. Pittman needs to keep getting that foul rate down, so he can play more than 20 minutes a game. His per 40 stats are very impressive - 28.4 pts, 11.3 bounds, and 5.1 blocks - a big improvement - as is his impressive 37.9 PER. Teams shy away from the heavyweights and late "bloomers", so I'd be very surprised if he's a lotto pick.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Ruz, I don't want to say a thing about Pittman because they never draft the guys I like.

[pancakes3]

better put on your tinfoil hat too CCJ. you don't want them reading your thoughts. in fact, tinfoil hats for all. the wiz haven't drafted any of our draft crushes as of late.

[Ruzious]

better put on your tinfoil hat too CCJ. you don't want them reading your thoughts. in fact, tinfoil hats for all. the wiz haven't drafted any of our draft crushes as of late.

Hell, they don't even keep draft choices, anymore.

[Ruzious]

Ruz, I don't want to say a thing about Pittman because they never draft the guys I like.

CCJ, here's a possible second rounder for your evaluation - Omar Samhan from St. Mary's http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Oma ... s/leaders/
6'11 265 lbs with a 34.2 PER and number 1 in the NCAA in defensive rebounding.

[Ruzious]

Time to escape to my favorite thread. There's a player out of Washington that's marching up the charts - even though NBAdraft.net has him as a mid 2nd rounder. Quincy Pondexter - a strong athletic 6'6/6'7 3 with length and athleticism who loves to play D, plays with passion, and all of a sudden has become a big scorer and rebounder as a senior. His PER is 6th in the nation - around 35. I've seen him compared to a young James Posey - a player I had always wanted on the Wiz. It'll be interesting to see how high and fast he shoots up in mocks - which might depend on how his 3 point range projects. With his energy and build, I see him as a young poor man's Shawn Marion.

[pancakes3]

nbadraft.net is rarely updated. DX has him as a 17th overall. intriguing prospect though. i like him better than james johnson of last draft already. probably comparable to that kid in wake, but with less ACC hype so he'll be a good 5-8 spots lower. A bargain, for sure.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Ruz, I don't want to say a thing about Pittman because they never draft the guys I like.

CCJ, here's a possible second rounder for your evaluation - Omar Samhan from St. Mary's http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Oma ... s/leaders/
6'11 265 lbs with a 34.2 PER and number 1 in the NCAA in defensive rebounding.

Ruz, I know he's an import but somebody's gotta tell the young man that big white dudes not named Pau must shave their head, or at least go with a short cut. His picture looks .... SOOOOOOFT.

I'm at the library as I post and I had to minimize dude's mug -- not that those who like that guy's mug are a bad thing -- but I just had to, well, ...

On that note: I think John Sheyer might be a guy to watch in the draft. Short hair and all he still looks like an altar boy, but his numbers look good this season.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jon-Scheyer-1043/

You ever notice the look Adam Morrison sports in the NBA, or how ripped JJ Redick got? Gotta be hard to play with the brothers.

Or, gotta be like Mike Miller--just straight baller no matter how you look.\

Ruz, that Omar kid is probably a baller looking like that. I don't care what he looks like, prefers, acts like: If dude can play sign him up.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Just click on these two guys and contrast with players I just posted about.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Sta ... nson-1075/

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Trevor-Booker-1305/

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jar ... nado-1189/

Any one of them might look like they just "did a nickel" at Lorton reformatory.

Wonder if players who look hard are actually any better than players who look soft?

[Ruzious]

Ruz, I don't want to say a thing about Pittman because they never draft the guys I like.

CCJ, here's a possible second rounder for your evaluation - Omar Samhan from St. Mary's http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Oma ... s/leaders/
6'11 265 lbs with a 34.2 PER and number 1 in the NCAA in defensive rebounding.

Ruz, I know he's an import but somebody's gotta tell the young man that big white dudes not named Pau must shave their head, or at least go with a short cut. His picture looks .... SOOOOOOFT.

I'm at the library as I post and I had to minimize dude's mug -- not that those who like that guy's mug are a bad thing -- but I just had to, well, ...

On that note: I think John Sheyer might be a guy to watch in the draft. Short hair and all he still looks like an altar boy, but his numbers look good this season.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jon-Scheyer-1043/

You ever notice the look Adam Morrison sports in the NBA, or how ripped JJ Redick got? Gotta be hard to play with the brothers.

Or, gotta be like Mike Miller--just straight baller no matter how you look.\

Ruz, that Omar kid is probably a baller looking like that. I don't care what he looks like, prefers, acts like: If dude can play sign him up.

I am not... going to tell a 6'11 265 lber named Omar that he looks soft. I may be stupid, but I'm not suicidal.

Scheyer, seriously? Have you seen him? He's a very fundamentally sound player, but he's not an NBA prospect, imo. He'll probably make a nice living in Europe... as an investment banker.

[Ruzious]

Just click on these two guys and contrast with players I just posted about.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Sta ... nson-1075/

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Trevor-Booker-1305/

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jar ... nado-1189/

Any one of them might look like they just "did a nickel" at Lorton reformatory.

Wonder if players who look hard are actually any better than players who look soft?

Very interesting players. Robinson obviously is the most gifted of them. He'll make the NBA even if his offense doesn't come around. At worst, he's a Moute. He's got a lot of raw talent - if he can get some offensive game, he could be a star.

Booker's a lot different. He's the manic 6'7 PF. If he had been brought up to play the 3, he'd have a better chance at the NBA, but he has the temporament of a PF - without the size. There's gotta be a spot for him, because he can flat out play, he's a good athlete, and he plays hard all the time.

Vornado - I haven't seen him since he was a frosh, but it doesn't sound like he's changed all that much. He was a freaky shot-blocker then. The problem is that he's too skinny, and he doesn't make up for that by being a super athlete.

[Ruzious]

Demarcus Cousins is a player I don't care for, but his value to us is that he's going to go high - making other players available to us. He's basically the next Eddie Curry. But I've gotta give him credit - In the last 3 games, he's totalled 46 minutes and scored 52 points and grabbed 35 rebounds - roughly 17 and 12 in 15 minutes a game.

[Severn Hoos]

Hey CCJ - here's a guy for you to keep your eye on:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/pr ... erId=32442

http://uabsports.cstv.com/sports/m-bask ... jah00.html

There's something familiar about that name....Millsap....hmm, think I've heard it before, just can't place it...

Younger brother of Paul, just torched UVA for 27 & 11, previously put 22 & 15 on Cincy. Listed as a G (?!) at 6-6, 210. Remember that Paul is only listed at 6-7, so not much height difference, but a huge weight (i.e., strength) discrepancy. Still, could be an interesting one as a strong SF down the road a bit, kind of a Ryan Gomes type player?

Anyway, just thought you might want to check him out. I couldn't find any profile at all on him at DX, so he definitely seems to be under the radar for now. I'll definitely be watching him too.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Oh, my, Sev!

Mama and Papa Millsap, if they were dogs, horses, or cows would be top breeders.

John Millsap was with Paul in Utah's camp..... And now there's a third? Being a dad of three boys I have a rule about the third boy. Generally, the smartest and either the weakest or the cockiest and meanest. Baby brother gets in the middle of everything and is competitive. Always trying to beat the others at something.

From the looks of that youngest I believe he'll probably be the baddest of the three (as I strongly feel right now with my young sons--but time will tell).

Goodness gracious! One of them who scores and rebounds?

Immediately STOP TALKING ABOUT HIM ... cuz you know the rule with EG.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Sev, since you shared that one, I'm not going to hold out.

Three guys that are on my radar:

1. Reggie Redding, Villanova.

I feel like I'm letting the cat out of the bag too early on him. He's the defender the Wiz need at SG.

http://www.villanova.com/sports/m-baskb ... gie00.html
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4399490
(Comes with a "small amount" of baggage, so he'll be there in round 2)
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/pr ... erId=31879

2. Jon Leuer, Wisconsin.

Seeing the successes of Ryan Anderson and Omri Casspi, I'm thinking tall, white dudes that can shoot and rebound are back in style. Decent numbers against Duke and Maryland. Plays in a big time conference and is only a junior. (Minor red flag is he's much more efficient a shooter this season than in past.)

http://www.uwbadgers.com/sports/m-baskb ... jon00.html
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/pr ... erId=36138

3. Quinn McDowell, William and Mary.

http://www.tribeathletics.com/story.php/9702/
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/pr ... erId=42167

The William and Mary men's basketball team's stellar start to the 2009-10 season added another impressive chapter on Wednesday night as the Tribe knocked off its second Atlantic Coast Conference opponent of the season, downing Maryland, 83-77, at the Comcast Center. Coupled with the Green and Gold's triumph at Wake Forest on Nov. 28, the College won two road games against ACC opponents in the same season for the first time in school history. ...
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Sophomore forward Quinn McDowell, the reigning CAA Player of the Week, led all scorers with a career-high 28 points on 8-of-14 from the floor, 3-of-5 from 3-point range and a perfect 9-of-9 from the charity stripe.

Any time William and Mary can beat both Maryland and Wake Forest, they've got some talent. McDowell also scored 20 against UConn and 23 against Harvard and Jeremy Lin.

Just a sophomore, this kid might be a serious prospect.

Sev, FOR A NOMINAL FEE you and I (and Dat and one or two others) could seriously provide a service to GMs who wish to keep their jobs.

Maybe they don't have time to just read this forum and would prefer to pay for private consultation. In 2010, maybe, if they pay for the advice they'll heed it.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I watched the Kentucky-Indiana game today and I came away been impressed with DeMarcus Cousins. He's a monster and has real good ball skills and post skills. I think he's going to be the Tyreke Evens of this year. Last season Evens was constently undervalued on nbadraft.net and draftexpress.com, but by the time the draft rolled around Evens was the second best prospect in the draft. Cousins is a force in the post on both sides of the floor. If the Wiz continue this terrible course and end up with a high lotto they should consider Cousins because at that point they'll need to replace Haywood.

I gotta disagree on Cousins. Yes, he's a great talent (and btw, does that Kentucky frosh class has as much pure talent as any since the Fab 5?), but he seems really immature and I'd guess he's many years away from being an NBA contributor. Favors is far and away a better frosh bigman prospect.

Pace-adjusted per 40 Cousins' stats:

31.4 pts, 18.6 rebs, 3.7 blks, 1.6 sts, 1.3 asts ... w. 3.7 tos, 6.6 fouls.



http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/DeM ... 318/stats/

Cousins is averaging 15 and 9 with 2 blocks in 19 minutes!

[pancakes3]

Cousins has a huge question mark on him. I'm willing to bet that he does pan out though. Incredible raw numbers, incredible size and athleticism, and a fire to his game that guys like eddy curry never exhibited. even if he stays immature and unrefined he can still have a joakim-noah-esque impact in the league as opposed to say... a Javale McGee/Deandre Jordan impact.

[Ruzious]

I watched the Kentucky-Indiana game today and I came away been impressed with DeMarcus Cousins. He's a monster and has real good ball skills and post skills. I think he's going to be the Tyreke Evens of this year. Last season Evens was constently undervalued on nbadraft.net and draftexpress.com, but by the time the draft rolled around Evens was the second best prospect in the draft. Cousins is a force in the post on both sides of the floor. If the Wiz continue this terrible course and end up with a high lotto they should consider Cousins because at that point they'll need to replace Haywood.

I gotta disagree on Cousins. Yes, he's a great talent (and btw, does that Kentucky frosh class has as much pure talent as any since the Fab 5?), but he seems really immature and I'd guess he's many years away from being an NBA contributor. Favors is far and away a better frosh bigman prospect.

Pace-adjusted per 40 Cousins' stats:

31.4 pts, 18.6 rebs, 3.7 blks, 1.6 sts, 1.3 asts ... w. 3.7 tos, 6.6 fouls.



http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/DeM ... 318/stats/

Cousins is averaging 15 and 9 with 2 blocks in 19 minutes!

Uh, yeah... did you miss what else I said about Cousins?

Demarcus Cousins is a player I don't care for, but his value to us is that he's going to go high - making other players available to us. He's basically the next Eddie Curry. But I've gotta give him credit - In the last 3 games, he's totalled 46 minutes and scored 52 points and grabbed 35 rebounds - roughly 17 and 12 in 15 minutes a game.

Btw, Quinn McDowell's a good choice. He looked like the best player in the game against MD.