Bucks Media Thread (Discussion of Bucks & Sports Media)

Siefer · Post #601 » by **Siefer** » Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:28 pm

It continues to be super embarrassing that we kicked our local coverage out of their courtside spots for a few more dollars.

Post #602 » by **MickeyDavis** » Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:31 pm

Siefer wrote:It continues to be super embarrassing that we kicked our local coverage out of their courtside spots for a few more dollars.

Radio guys were booted a few years ago. TV this season. Lisa has a hard time knowing what's going on when courtside let alone from suite level. And Marques, although I like him, sometimes forgets a game is going on when he's telling one of his stories (entertaining but shouldn't be told over live action).

rilamann · Post #603 » by **rilamann** » Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:53 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:
Siefer wrote:It continues to be super embarrassing that we kicked our local coverage out of their courtside spots for a few more dollars.

Radio guys were booted a few years ago. TV this season. Lisa has a hard time knowing what's going on when courtside let alone from suite level. And Marques, although I like him, sometimes forgets a game is going on when he's telling one of his stories (entertaining but shouldn't be told over live action).

Marques, at least IMO, was a lot better with Paschke. Lisa kind of drags him down. Paschke might have been a company man, which was kind of annoying at times. But Paschke was incredibly good at his job as a play by play guy, as a color commentator he was probably much easier to work with than Lisa.

I love Marques and if I was listening to Marques on a podcast or doing an interview, I could listen to him telling old basketball stories all day. Marques has a ton of charisma and he's a great story teller.

But during live action I agree, the story telling gets to be a bit too much.

HKPackFan · Post #604 » by **HKPackFan** » Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:35 am

rilamann wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:
Siefer wrote:It continues to be super embarrassing that we kicked our local coverage out of their courtside spots for a few more dollars.

Radio guys were booted a few years ago. TV this season. Lisa has a hard time knowing what's going on when courtside let alone from suite level. And Marques, although I like him, sometimes forgets a game is going on when he's telling one of his stories (entertaining but shouldn't be told over live action).

Marques, at least IMO, was a lot better with Paschke. Lisa kind of drags him down. Paschke might have been a company man, which was kind of annoying at times. But Paschke was incredibly good at his job as a play by play guy, as a color commentator he was probably much easier to work with than Lisa.

I love Marques and if I was listening to Marques on a podcast or doing an interview, I could listen to him telling old basketball stories all day. Marques has a ton of charisma and he's a great story teller.

But during live action I agree, the story telling gets to be a bit too much.

I think taking him away from the court hurt his ability to be dialed in. Now it happens more frequently where he can go off on a tangent. It was a terrible idea to take him out off the court :banghead:

where before he's feeling the flow and feeling the juice of the game.

I agree Lisa is less into the game being too far away so she detracts his focus of the game as well.

HKPackFan · Post #605 » by **HKPackFan** » Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:37 am

BTW Kudos to Melanie she's an all star regular now co-hosting I think a 4th time.

skones · Post #606 » by **skones** » Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:55 pm

I don't think Lisa is bad, but would agree that the chemistry with Marques is still a work in progress. That's a pretty fickle thing though, so it's hard to just hire a fit.

Post #607 » by **MickeyDavis** » Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:16 pm

skones wrote:I don't think Lisa is bad, but would agree that the chemistry with Marques is still a work in progress. That's a pretty fickle thing though, so it's hard to just hire a fit.

Very hard. There's no way to know how the PBP and analyst will do together until they actually start doing games. Pachke did a good job transitioning from McGlocklin to Marques but Paschke is also well versed on Bucks history and could relate to many of Marques' comments and stories. Lisa doesn't know anything about the Bucks prior to when she started here. Granted most casual viewers have no idea who Marques is either.

skones · Post #608 » by **skones** » Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:19 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:
skones wrote:I don't think Lisa is bad, but would agree that the chemistry with Marques is still a work in progress. That's a pretty fickle thing though, so it's hard to just hire a fit.

Very hard. There's no way to know how the PBP and analyst will do together until they actually start doing games. Pachke did a good job transitioning from McGlocklin to Marques but Paschke is also well versed on Bucks history and could relate to many of Marques' comments and stories. Lisa doesn't know anything about the Bucks prior to when she started here. Granted most casual viewers have no idea who Marques is either.

On that note, I saw someone mention they should hire someone local, and I don't think that's really the play. You just need to pony up for a good play by play person. Milwaukee is just too small of a market to have good play by play folks sitting around waiting on jobs. Brian Anderson is the most obvious, but he probably costs too much.

Post #609 » by **MickeyDavis** » Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:27 pm

skones wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:
skones wrote:I don't think Lisa is bad, but would agree that the chemistry with Marques is still a work in progress. That's a pretty fickle thing though, so it's hard to just hire a fit.

Very hard. There's no way to know how the PBP and analyst will do together until they actually start doing games. Paschke did a good job transitioning from McGlocklin to Marques but Paschke is also well versed on Bucks history and could relate to many of Marques' comments and stories. Lisa doesn't know anything about the Bucks prior to when she started here. Granted most casual viewers have no idea who Marques is either.

On that note, I saw someone mention they should hire someone local, and I don't think that's really the play. You just need to pony up for a good play by play person. Milwaukee is just too small of a market to have good play by play folks sitting around waiting on jobs. Brian Anderson is the most obvious, but he probably costs too much.

Agreed. I can't think of anyone local that would fit the bill. Paschke did local TV sports and then did some Brewers PBP. BA would be great but he's doing so much national stuff he probably wouldn't do it. He had to cut back to 50 Brewers games a year.

But BA is a good example of a good hire. He had no MLB experience. He had done some minor league baseball and did some sideline reporting for the Spurs. He also did some stuff on the Gold Channel. He wasn't all that good at first on Brewers broadcasts IMO but he did his homework and improved a great deal. And he moved here full time (and still lives here). Lisa is just auditioning for her next job.

I'm worried about Marques calling it quits. He just turned 67. And they have Novak waiting in the wings. :roll:

But they've accommodated him with some time off during the season so maybe he'll stick around for awhile.

skones · Post #610 » by **skones** » Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:03 pm

Steve Novak still having a job is such a Herb Kohl thing that it's baffling.

JayMKE · Post #611 » by **JayMKE** » Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:23 pm

they should ask Paschke to come back lol

Post #612 » by **MickeyDavis** » Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:51 pm

That would be cool but he's 72 and went out with a championship team. I think he's happy in retirement.

JBucks · Post #613 » by **JBucks** » Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:06 pm

I wish there were good writers covering this team. Jim O. makes Charles Gardner look good. Nehm writes the same thing after every single game.

tydett · Post #614 » by **tydett** » Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:23 pm

skones wrote:Steve Novak still having a job is such a Herb Kohl thing that it's baffling.

Especially since it's not like he was an org lifer. Like, sure, he sat on the bench for a year after wrecking his knee, but the organization owes him nothing for that. If they want a guy who's might have some organizational insight and is no longer playing, feels like there's at least a dozen other guys they could try who'd be happy to tie down a paycheck and stay around the game.

ReginaldDwight · Post #615 » by **ReginaldDwight** » Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:30 pm

tydett wrote:
skones wrote:Steve Novak still having a job is such a Herb Kohl thing that it's baffling.

Especially since it's not like he was an org lifer. Like, sure, he sat on the bench for a year after wrecking his knee, but the organization owes him nothing for that. If they want a guy who's might have some organizational insight and is no longer playing, feels like there's at least a dozen other guys they could try who'd be happy to tie down a paycheck and stay around the game.

Yeah Novak being involved with the bucks is weird as ****, cant he go call MU games or something with homer.

HKPackFan · Post #616 » by **HKPackFan** » Tue Feb 28, 2023 7:19 am

ReginaldDwight wrote:
tydett wrote:
skones wrote:Steve Novak still having a job is such a Herb Kohl thing that it's baffling.

Especially since it's not like he was an org lifer. Like, sure, he sat on the bench for a year after wrecking his knee, but the organization owes him nothing for that. If they want a guy who's might have some organizational insight and is no longer playing, feels like there's at least a dozen other guys they could try who'd be happy to tie down a paycheck and stay around the game.

Yeah Novak being involved with the bucks is weird as ****, cant he go call MU games or something with homer.

"Steve Novak! I love that guy. He's got amazing insight from a player perspective, and is a fun commentator that adds depth to the game. Bucks fans are truly lucky to have him."

SAID NO ONE.

BradMKE · Post #617 » by **BradMKE** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:18 am

Read on Twitter

Diamond Sports/Bally Sports files for bankruptcy.

WiscoKing13 · Post #618 » by **WiscoKing13** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:35 am

BradMKE wrote:

Read on Twitter

Diamond Sports/Bally Sports files for bankruptcy.

I hate them but I pray to God they make it 26 more days with the Bucks. The figure it out next year.

Also one thing I never understood. If they are so desperate for cash how do they not have any deal still with YouTubetv or Hulu?

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Post #619 » by **MickeyDavis** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 1:29 am

The NBA teams already have their money for this season. Bankruptcy doesn't mean Diamond just stops broadcasting games.

MLB is a different story. Diamond has NOT paid the money for the upcoming season so there is a breach of contract. They are working on taking over the broadcasts. The NBA may do something similar next season depending on how the bankruptcy plays out.

WiscoKing13 · Post #620 » by **WiscoKing13** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 1:34 am

MickeyDavis wrote:The NBA teams already have their money for this season. Bankruptcy doesn't mean Diamond just stops broadcasting games.

Sure but they still need to function as a business. Pay employees, not cost cut to put out an even more inferior product and not to mention any high preforming employees(example camera ppl or TV infrastructure ppl) with half a brain will be jumping ship ASAP.

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