Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 3.0

[eminence]

I'll need something convincing on why Draymond/Looney worked great, but Dray/Adams wouldn't work.

They got away with it because of the 620 minutes they played together Steph played 580 of them. That's not a lot of minutes over the course of a 72 game season and they paid a tiny fraction of the cost Adams would represent with salary and tax.

You should be thinking how can we upgrade Looney, not how can we pay both Looney and Adams a combined $80M or whatever it would be and still have neither of them in your closing 5 in games that matter.

Warriors just aren't going to throw money around foolishly like that.

Is Plumlee a good fit? He could play the Bogut role with ease it seems.

I think Plumlee would be a fine fit, not sure what the deal would be though. I wouldn't be interested in giving up much in a Looney/Plumlee swap and I don't really see much else that works.

[VCfor3]

Memphis fans - where y'all at on an Anderson/Bane/Tillman for Wiseman swap (maybe an additional salary guy like Paschall from the Warriors).

Begrudgingly accept just because I love Bane lol. He showed up big time for us this postseason. Anderson and Tillman also were big for us this season. That said Wiseman clearly has the highest ceiling and we need to consolidate. Looks like we could have 12 guys who should get minutes next season which is too many.

[Texas Chuck]

Rick Carlisle is the head of the coaching association.
Rick Carlisle was the head coach of the Mavs not very long ago.
Jamahl Mosley has been on Rick's staff for years and is considered a candidate for the Mavs head coaching job.

In light of all of that, did anyone else find it really odd that after taking the Pacers job he openly endorsed Jason Kidd for the Mavs? Seems inappropriate as head of the association to shill for a specific guy, seems inappropriate to tell the team you just quit what they should do publicly(fine if Mark asks for your input privately), and at least a little disrespectful to Mosley.

Or am I reading too much into this?

[loserX]

Rick Carlisle is the head of the coaching association.
Rick Carlisle was the head coach of the Mavs not very long ago.
Jamahl Mosley has been on Rick's staff for years and is considered a candidate for the Mavs head coaching job.

In light of all of that, did anyone else find it really odd that after taking the Pacers job he openly endorsed Jason Kidd for the Mavs? Seems inappropriate as head of the association to shill for a specific guy, seems inappropriate to tell the team you just quit what they should do publicly(fine if Mark asks for your input privately), and at least a little disrespectful to Mosley.

Or am I reading too much into this?

That third one (disrespectful to Mosley) for sure, unless he knows something we don't (that Mosley is already out of the running) which just raises more questions.

[gswhoops]

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[K_chile22]

Rick Carlisle is the head of the coaching association.
Rick Carlisle was the head coach of the Mavs not very long ago.
Jamahl Mosley has been on Rick's staff for years and is considered a candidate for the Mavs head coaching job.

In light of all of that, did anyone else find it really odd that after taking the Pacers job he openly endorsed Jason Kidd for the Mavs? Seems inappropriate as head of the association to shill for a specific guy, seems inappropriate to tell the team you just quit what they should do publicly(fine if Mark asks for your input privately), and at least a little disrespectful to Mosley.

Or am I reading too much into this?

No, it's definitely really weird and seems rude to Mosley.

[oldncreaky]

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It makes some sense for Cleveland to look at trading the #3 pick. They want wings. Cade will be gone, and Kuminga would be a reach. They think they have their C (Allen) so Mobley is not as good a fit. They like their Sexland G rotation, so Green and Suggs are not as good a fit. If they can trade down a couple spots and pick up assets in the process, it may make sense.

[K_chile22]

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It makes some sense for Cleveland to look at trading the #3 pick. They want wings. Cade will be gone, and Kuminga would be a reach. They think they have their C (Allen) so Mobley is not as good a fit. They like their Sexland G rotation, so Green and Suggs are not as good a fit. If they can trade down a couple spots and pick up assets in the process, it may make sense.

I think it would be a mistake by the cavs but I think the magic offering their picks to move up here may be what happens. Cavs get Kuminga or Barnes and the 8th pick, Orlando gets one of the top guyd

[Texas Chuck]

I think it would be a mistake by the cavs but I think the magic offering their picks to move up here may be what happens. Cavs get Kuminga or Barnes and the 8th pick, Orlando gets one of the top guyd

I was thinking Orlando too except with Cleveland picking Barnes and trading 8 for veteran help?

[gswhoops]

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It makes some sense for Cleveland to look at trading the #3 pick. They want wings. Cade will be gone, and Kuminga would be a reach. They think they have their C (Allen) so Mobley is not as good a fit. They like their Sexland G rotation, so Green and Suggs are not as good a fit. If they can trade down a couple spots and pick up assets in the process, it may make sense.

I think it would be a mistake by the cavs but I think the magic offering their picks to move up here may be what happens. Cavs get Kuminga or Barnes and the 8th pick, Orlando gets one of the top guyd

Interestingly the article kind of implies they might be pursuing a player rather than a pick.

[K_chile22]

It makes some sense for Cleveland to look at trading the #3 pick. They want wings. Cade will be gone, and Kuminga would be a reach. They think they have their C (Allen) so Mobley is not as good a fit. They like their Sexland G rotation, so Green and Suggs are not as good a fit. If they can trade down a couple spots and pick up assets in the process, it may make sense.

I think it would be a mistake by the cavs but I think the magic offering their picks to move up here may be what happens. Cavs get Kuminga or Barnes and the 8th pick, Orlando gets one of the top guyd

Interestingly the article kind of implies they might be pursuing a player rather than a pick.

Well, like Chuck said, they could flip 8, but they'd probably be competing with GSW at 7 for similar guys

[babyjax13]

Rick Carlisle is the head of the coaching association.
Rick Carlisle was the head coach of the Mavs not very long ago.
Jamahl Mosley has been on Rick's staff for years and is considered a candidate for the Mavs head coaching job.

In light of all of that, did anyone else find it really odd that after taking the Pacers job he openly endorsed Jason Kidd for the Mavs? Seems inappropriate as head of the association to shill for a specific guy, seems inappropriate to tell the team you just quit what they should do publicly(fine if Mark asks for your input privately), and at least a little disrespectful to Mosley.

Or am I reading too much into this?

He might feel like Mosley was forcing him out the door w/Luka?

[Morris_Shatford]

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My goodness I hope not;
If there is any team that may provide some excitement in a draft where the top four appear to be a foregone conclusion its the Cavs.

[pacers33granger]

Rick Carlisle is the head of the coaching association.
Rick Carlisle was the head coach of the Mavs not very long ago.
Jamahl Mosley has been on Rick's staff for years and is considered a candidate for the Mavs head coaching job.

In light of all of that, did anyone else find it really odd that after taking the Pacers job he openly endorsed Jason Kidd for the Mavs? Seems inappropriate as head of the association to shill for a specific guy, seems inappropriate to tell the team you just quit what they should do publicly(fine if Mark asks for your input privately), and at least a little disrespectful to Mosley.

Or am I reading too much into this?

You're not reading too much into it. I took it as a shot at Cuban, Voulgaris, and/or Luka. As in, "I hope they see how bad it can be", which he couldn't/wouldn't imply about Mosley (I assume). I don't know though as people in the league seem to like Kidd. The hit piece following his exit couldn't have helped.

[MoneyTalks41890]

3/Barton/JGreen to WAS, MPJ to CLE, Beal to DEN?

[MoneyTalks41890]

Ingram for 3/Love

[eminence]

On Wiseman for Memphis depth - I've come around on Melton as the main salary matching guy. Wiseman for Melton/Tillman/'24 1st has really grown on me (maybe add in Clarke with something back from GS?).

[pacers33granger]

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This is some asinine baiting from Spears here. Indy went through a long, drawn out process just last year going over dozens of candidates and seriously considered a diverse range of coaches.

[Texas Chuck]

Garbage from Spears. I'm all for diversity of candidates but when the clear cut best coach is on the market and wants your job, don't waste Shaw and other coachs of color's time with token interviews.

This isn't hiring Scott Skiles or Jim Boylen without looking at minority candidates. This is Rick freaking Carlisle. And he wants a dog and pony show? Nah man this aint it.

Oh and sorry Coach Fizdale but you didn't not get this job because you are black.

[LofJ]

I struggle to think of any players that are worth the 3 pick, are on the trade market, and the trading team is okay with a pick coming back. Jaylen Brown? Jaren Jackson? Siakam? Towns?

Other guys like Beal, Turner, etc. will be UFAs in the not too distant future. It would be idiotic to trade the 3rd pick for them if you're a team like the Cavs. They'll walk and Cleveland will be left with nothing.