Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 8

Post #601 » by **nate33** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:32 pm

payitforward wrote:There's been mention here of trying to acquire Paul Reed. By Nat I think, & by others (me included).

Utah gave him a 3 year/$23m offer sheet -- Philly just matched it, so he's off the market I guess.

I'm not all that thrilled about adding a role player at $8M a year anyhow. We need to focus on finding and developing our foundational starters. You can always find depth later in free agency if you can keep your cap sheet clean.

payitforward · Post #602 » by **payitforward** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 9:12 pm

Sure. But one doesn't preclude the other. What is certainly the case, however, is that it's easier to find another Paul Reed than one of those foundational guys who has a shot to be an all-star.

Truth be told, I suppose, an outstanding FO does all the roster-building stuff in parallel.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #603 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:25 am

nate33 wrote:
closg00 wrote:Love the statement put out by the Blazers regarding Dame’s trade request, it is exactly what should have happened with the Wizards had they not been so pathetically and unnecessarily desperate with Beal and his contract.

Dame doesn't have a NTC.

He is also, much, much better than Beal. Portland can wait for a bidding war because one is sure to develop.

Well before the science of the draft evolved to where it is today, I remember wanting Lillard over Beal. Third pick and sixth pick could have been a great trade down.

closg00 · Post #604 » by **closg00** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:52 am

How did we miss this Woj Bomb? Todd to Memphis..

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Post #605 » by **Rafael122** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:40 pm

Again, I have no idea what Troy Weaver is doing and chances are he's probably getting canned, but the Stewart contract is right about what I think Deni should get.

closg00 · Post #606 » by **closg00** » Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:23 am

Look at this Dick.

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NatP4 · Post #607 » by **NatP4** » Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:28 am

Rafael122 wrote:Again, I have no idea what Troy Weaver is doing and chances are he's probably getting canned, but the Stewart contract is right about what I think Deni should get.

Weaver saved himself with the Ausar pick and the Stewart extension. Detroit is starting to turn it around.

FAH1223 · Post #608 » by **FAH1223** » Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:54 pm

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closg00 · Post #609 » by **closg00** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 2:55 am

Nice for Suns fans, is this an NBA first?

badinage · Post #610 » by **badinage** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:49 am

He’s an arrogant and grubby sleazebag owner, but this is a nice little gift to fans.

closg00 · Post #611 » by **closg00** » Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:59 am

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doclinkin · Post #612 » by **doclinkin** » Sat Jul 22, 2023 3:15 pm

Wow. Re:the James Harden article. The nba owners with a holdout-killer clause. Any player in the last year of their contract who holds out for more than 30 days cannot sign with any other basketball team ever until their team okays it. Not Big 3. Or Europe. Or China.

I wonder why that was limited to the final year of a contract. I guess leverage in negotiations for extensions etc?

Post #613 » by **nate33** » Sat Jul 22, 2023 3:42 pm

doclinkin wrote:Wow. Re:the James Harden article. The nba owners with a holdout-killer clause. Any player in the last year of their contract who holds out for more than 30 days cannot sign with any other basketball team ever until their team okays it. Not Big 3. Or Europe. Or China.

I wonder why that was limited to the final year of a contract. I guess leverage in negotiations for extensions etc?

Yeah, but James Harden will just show up and then not play hard. The guy is a total cancer.

Frichuela · Post #614 » by **Frichuela** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:11 pm

Crazy…

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FAH1223 · Post #615 » by **FAH1223** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:23 pm

Jaylen Brown can't go left.

But he'll be counting his cash with his left hand.

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AFM · Post #616 » by **AFM** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:26 pm

Wow! Was that the expectation?

Post #617 » by **nate33** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:32 pm

AFM wrote:Wow! Was that the expectation?

They were between a rock and a hard place. Brown wasn't going to sign for anything less than the max. Boston, who just went all-in by trading for Porzingis, couldn't just let Brown walk.

It's always a difficult scenario. What do you do when a not-quite-max-worthy player demands a max contract?

Post #618 » by **Rafael122** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:04 pm

The KP extension is a head scratcher knowing they have the Brown and Tatum max contracts on the books.

They have to decide what to do with White and Williams, those extensions aren't going to come cheap either.

I do think Brown gets traded the first year Tatum's new money kicks in. It's going to take 1-2 years before we start seeing these mega salaries kick in.

gambitx777 · Post #619 » by **gambitx777** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:30 pm

Bronny James had a heart attack at a usc practice. This is the second incoming fresh man to have a heart attack at USC in just around a year. What the **** is the training staff giving these kids.

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Dat2U · Post #620 » by **Dat2U** » Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:23 am

Dat's top 33 positional rankings (top 100 overall ranked) for the 2023-24 season.

PGs
1. (2) Stephen Curry GSW
2. (7) Damian Lillard POR
3. (15) Tyrese Haliburton IND
4. (18) Kyrie Irving DAL
5. (20) Ja Morant MEM
6. (21) Darius Garland CLE
7. (22) Trae Young ATL
8. (23) James Harden PHI
9. (24) Jrue Holiday MIL
10. (25) De'Aaron Fox SAC
11. (26) LaMelo Ball CHA
12. (33) Jamal Murray DEN
13. (38) Jalen Brunson NY
14. (43) Bradley Beal PHX
15. (51) Fred VanVleet HOU
16. (52) Derrick White BOS
17. (59) Cade Cunningham DET
18. (69) Chris Paul GSW
19. (70) Mike Conley Jr MIN
20. (87) C.J. McCollum NOH
21. (100) Immanuel Quickley NYK
22. Spencer Dinwiddie BKN
23. Josh Giddey OKC
24. Russell Westbrook LAC
25. Kyle Lowry MIA
26. Markelle Fultz ORL
27. Scoot Henderson POR
28. Tyus Jones WAS
29. Tre Jones SAS
30. Amen Thompson HOU
31. Delon Wright WAS
32. Cole Anthony ORL
33. Monte Morris DET

SGs
1. (3) Luka Doncic DAL
2. (13) Shai Gilgeous-Alexander OKC
3. (14) Devin Booker PHX
4. (16) Donovan Mitchell CLE
5. (19) Paul George IND
6. (27) Anthony Edwards MIN
7. (37) Zach LaVine CHI
8. (42) Jaylen Brown BOS
9. (46) O.G. Anunoby TOR
10. (47) Tyrese Maxey PHI
11. (48) Mikal Bridges BKN
12. (57) Klay Thompson GSW
13. (71) Marcus Smart MEM
14. (77) Tyler Herro MIA
15. (78) Austin Reaves LAL
16. (84) Buddy Hield IND
17. (89) Hebert Jones NOH
18. (90) Kevin Huerter SAC
19. (91) Dejounte Murray ATL
20. (92) Jordan Clarkson UTA
20. (93) Anfernee Simons POR
21. Kevin Porter Jr HOU
22. Jordan Poole WAS
23. Devin Vassell, SAS
24. Malcolm Brogdon, BOS
25. Isaiah Joe, OKC
26. Terry Rozier CHA
27. Malik Monk SAC
28. Alec Burks DET
29. Gary Trent Jr TOR
30. De'Anthony Melton PHI
31. Donte DiVincenzo NYK
32. Coby White CHI
33. Jalen Suggs ORL

SFs
1. (6) Jimmy Butler MIA
2. (8) Jayson Tatum BOS
3. (10) Kawhi Leonard LAC
4. (12) LeBron James LAL
5. (30) Lauri Markkanen UTA
6. (34) Franz Wagner ORL
7. (35) DeMar DeRozan CHI
8. (36) Brandon Ingram NOH
9. (39) Desmond Bane MEM
10. (49) Khris Middleton MIL
11. (50) Michael Porter Jr. DEN
12. (67) Cameron Johnson BKN
13. (72) Andrew Wiggins GSW
14. (74) Josh Hart NYK
15. (75) Scottie Barnes TOR
16. (76) Trey Murphy III NOH
17. (94) Luguentz Dort OKC
18. (95) Jaden McDaniels MIN
19. (96) Quentin Grimes NYK
20. Tim Hardaway Jr DAL
21. Jalen Williams OKC
22. Keldon Johnson, SAS
23. Keegan Murray SAC
24. Saddiq Bey ATL
25. Alex Caruso CHI
26. Dillon Brooks HOU
27. Kyle Anderson MIN
28. Bruce Brown IND
29. Royce O'Neale BKN
30. Matisse Thybulle POR
31. Cedi Osman SAS
32. Talen Horton-Tucker UTA
33. Josh Green DAL

PFs
1. (5) Giannis Antetokoumpo MIL
2. (9) Kevin Durant PHX
3. (17) Jaren Jackson Jr MEM
4. (28) Pascal Siakam TOR
5. (29) Julius Randle NYK
6. (31) Zion Williamson NOH
7. (40) Aaron Gordon DEN
8. (41) Kristaps Porzingis BOS
9. (44) Evan Mobley CLE
10. (56) Karl-Anthony Towns MIN
11. (63) Draymond Green GSW
12. (68) Jerami Grant POR
13. (83) Miles Bridges CHA
14. (85) Bojan Bogdanovic DET
15. (86) Harrison Barnes SAC
16. Paolo Banchero ORL
17. Kyle Kuzma WAS
18. Kenrich Williams OKC
19. Dorian Finney-Smith BKN
20. Ben Simmons BKN
21. Tari Eason HOU
22. De'Andre Hunter ATL
23. Jonathan Kuminga GSW
24. Obi Toppin IND
25. Jarred Vanderbilt LAL
26. Nicolas Batum LAC
27. Chris Boucher TOR
28. P.J. Washington CHA
29. Caleb Martin MIA
30. Patrick Williams CHI
31. Grant Williams DAL
32. Jeremy Sochan SAS
33. John Collins UTA

Cs
1. (1) Nikola Jokic DEN
2. (4) Joel Embiid PHI
3. (11) Anthony Davis LAL
4. (32) Bam Adebayo MIA
5. (53) Brook Lopez MIL
6. (54) Myles Turner IND
7. (55) Domantas Sabonis SAC
8. (58) Steven Adams MEM
9. (60) Nic Claxton BKN
10. (61) Chet Holmgren OKC
11. (62) Jarrett Allen CLE
12. (64) Mitchell Robinson NYK
13. (65) Walker Kessler UTA
14. (66) Victor Wembanyama SAS
15. (73) Rudy Gobert MIN
16. (79) Robert Williams III BOS
17. (80) Wendell Carter Jr ORL
18. (81) Alperen Sengun HOU
19. (82) Jacob Poeltl TOR
20. (88) Clint Capela ATL
21. (97) Kevon Looney GSW
22. (98) Al Horford BOS
23. (99) De'Andre Ayton PHX
24. Onyeka Okongwu ATL
25. Daniel Gafford WAS
26. Jusuf Nurkic POR
27. Nikola Vucevic CHI
28. Ivica Zubac LAC
29. Jalen Duren DET
30. Mark Williams CHA
31. Larry Nance Jr, NOH
32. Naz Reid MIN
33. Mason Plumlee LAC