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Re: Anthony Black - Arkansas 

Post#601 » by clyde21 » Wed Apr 9, 2025 9:28 pm

so you chose embarrassment
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Re: Anthony Black - Arkansas 

Post#602 » by JMAC3 » Thu Apr 10, 2025 7:09 pm

clyde21 wrote:so you chose embarrassment


So many people have you muted on this board for the way you act, that really saves you from more embarrassment I suppose.
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Re: Anthony Black - Arkansas 

Post#603 » by basketballRob » Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:53 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
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JMAC3 wrote:How is this guy playing less than Cory Joseph lol


it's gotta be a mental illness, that's the only explanation

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Or the explanation is the post isn't about the whole season, dur dur durrrrr.

The whole point is Magic will play anyone over Black - Fultz, Cole Anthony and now Cory Joseph.
Now that Suggs and Cole Anthony (missed 9 of last 13) are hurt.
The Magic are now resorting to playing next man up over Black- not a good look.

Last 5 games.

Cory Joseph 26 mins- started
Black 21 mins

Cory Joseph 25 mins - started
Black 23 mins

Cory Joseph 18 mins - started
Black 20 mins

Cory Joseph 29 mins - started
Black 19 mins

Cory Joseph 23 mins - started
Anthony Black 25 mins

When you can't win majority of minutes over Cory Joseph it is an issue.
Who cares? He just turned 21.

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Re: Anthony Black - Arkansas 

Post#604 » by Braggins » Fri Apr 11, 2025 4:12 pm

Black is 6th on the Magic in minutes per game and 1st among non-starters.

Black = 23.9 mpg
Anthony = 18.5 mpg
Joseph = 12.3 mpg

Joseph hasn't actually played more minutes than Black since he was inserted into the Magic's regular rotation on March 13 and his minutes were increased. This exhilarating new round of discussion was started over Joseph having a five game sample where he played more minutes than Black in three of the five games... This has become one of the dumbest threads on this sub.
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Re: Anthony Black - Arkansas 

Post#605 » by clyde21 » Sat Apr 12, 2025 6:26 pm

Braggins wrote:This has become one of the dumbest threads on this sub.


This is what happens when joker posters are more interested in pushing their agendas than actually having real basketball conversations.

Last two games since this ridiculous convo

Black: 64 minutes (1st on Magic)
Joseph: 25 mins

An embarrassment for the entire sub forum.
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Re: Anthony Black - Arkansas 

Post#606 » by JMAC3 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 3:14 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Braggins wrote:This has become one of the dumbest threads on this sub.


This is what happens when joker posters are more interested in pushing their agendas than actually having real basketball conversations.

Last two games since this ridiculous convo

Black: 64 minutes (1st on Magic)
Joseph: 25 mins

An embarrassment for the entire sub forum.


Congrats, in two games the Magic clearly rested every important player he played a lot of minutes lololol....

No Franz, No Paolo, no Joseph,5 mins of KCP etc...

Black, Trevelin Queen, Jett Howard, Tristan Da Silva and Caleb Houston all playing 30+ mins a night.

I can't tell if you lack common sense, or just choose to ignore it when it doesn't fit your agenda. Cory Joseph got rested with the starters for the playoffs, meanwhile Black played major minutes with the end of the bench. Do you really think that favors what you are saying?
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Re: Anthony Black - Arkansas 

Post#607 » by JMAC3 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 3:16 pm

I am sure since what I said makes sense, I will be insulted.
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Re: Anthony Black - Arkansas 

Post#608 » by Braggins » Mon Apr 14, 2025 3:27 pm

Braggins wrote:Black is 6th on the Magic in minutes per game and 1st among non-starters.

Black = 23.9 mpg
Anthony = 18.5 mpg
Joseph = 12.3 mpg

Joseph hasn't actually played more minutes than Black since he was inserted into the Magic's regular rotation on March 13 and his minutes were increased. This exhilarating new round of discussion was started over Joseph having a five game sample where he played more minutes than Black in three of the five games... This has become one of the dumbest threads on this sub.


Anthony Black = 78 gp ~ 24.2 mpg
Cole Anthony = 67 gp ~ 18.4 mpg
Cory Joseph = 50 gp ~ 12.2 mpg

since CJ entered rotation (3/13/25 to end of season)
Anthony Black = 25.2 mpg
Cory Joseph = 22.2 mpg

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Re: Anthony Black - Arkansas 

Post#609 » by Braggins » Mon Apr 14, 2025 3:37 pm

He had a solid stretch to end the season.

last 43 games

43 gp ~ 24.5 mpg
10.3 ppg ~ 3.3 rpg ~ 2.7 apg ~ 1.3 spg ~ 1.5 tov
43.5% fg (8.7 fga) ~ 36.0% 3pt (2.7 3pta) ~ 76.5% ft (2.4 fta)
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Re: Anthony Black - Arkansas 

Post#610 » by clyde21 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 3:53 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Braggins wrote:This has become one of the dumbest threads on this sub.


This is what happens when joker posters are more interested in pushing their agendas than actually having real basketball conversations.

Last two games since this ridiculous convo

Black: 64 minutes (1st on Magic)
Joseph: 25 mins

An embarrassment for the entire sub forum.


Congrats, in two games the Magic clearly rested every important player he played a lot of minutes lololol....

No Franz, No Paolo, no Joseph,5 mins of KCP etc...

Black, Trevelin Queen, Jett Howard, Tristan Da Silva and Caleb Houston all playing 30+ mins a night.

I can't tell if you lack common sense, or just choose to ignore it when it doesn't fit your agenda. Cory Joseph got rested with the starters for the playoffs, meanwhile Black played major minutes with the end of the bench. Do you really think that favors what you are saying?


AB is 6th in MPG on the Magic and 3rd in overall minutes, that idea that he *just* got big minutes because other players were resting is **** hysterical dog.

This is what happens when you put agenda over facts, you end up vomiting nonsense all over the place.
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Re: Anthony Black - Arkansas 

Post#611 » by JMAC3 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 4:03 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Braggins wrote:This has become one of the dumbest threads on this sub.


This is what happens when joker posters are more interested in pushing their agendas than actually having real basketball conversations.

Last two games since this ridiculous convo

Black: 64 minutes (1st on Magic)
Joseph: 25 mins

An embarrassment for the entire sub forum.


Again, you are the one who called out the last two games.... probably doing no research at all. When in reality those games were garbage time games.

I can't wait to see more excuses once the playoff games start.
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Re: Anthony Black - Arkansas 

Post#612 » by JMAC3 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 4:05 pm

Braggins wrote:
Braggins wrote:Black is 6th on the Magic in minutes per game and 1st among non-starters.

Black = 23.9 mpg
Anthony = 18.5 mpg
Joseph = 12.3 mpg

Joseph hasn't actually played more minutes than Black since he was inserted into the Magic's regular rotation on March 13 and his minutes were increased. This exhilarating new round of discussion was started over Joseph having a five game sample where he played more minutes than Black in three of the five games... This has become one of the dumbest threads on this sub.


Anthony Black = 78 gp ~ 24.2 mpg
Cole Anthony = 67 gp ~ 18.4 mpg
Cory Joseph = 50 gp ~ 12.2 mpg

since CJ entered rotation (3/13/25 to end of season)
Anthony Black = 25.2 mpg
Cory Joseph = 22.2 mpg

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Do you not see the issue with Black only playing 25 mpg vs Joseph playing 22? Do you not see the issue of Joseph starting over Black? Are you really this caught up with the minor details of 2-3 mins that you can't see the bigger issue that continues to come up no matter who is healthy for the Magic?
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Re: Anthony Black - Arkansas 

Post#613 » by clyde21 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 4:07 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Braggins wrote:This has become one of the dumbest threads on this sub.


This is what happens when joker posters are more interested in pushing their agendas than actually having real basketball conversations.

Last two games since this ridiculous convo

Black: 64 minutes (1st on Magic)
Joseph: 25 mins

An embarrassment for the entire sub forum.


Again, you are the one who called out the last two games.... probably doing no research at all. When in reality those games were garbage time games.

I can't wait to see more excuses once the playoff games start.



You're the one who came running into this thread because one rando game Joseph got more mins than Anthony Black, and now you realize what a hysterically stupid argument you made, sit this one out for a while chief
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Re: Anthony Black - Arkansas 

Post#614 » by JMAC3 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 4:09 pm

clyde21 wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
This is what happens when joker posters are more interested in pushing their agendas than actually having real basketball conversations.

Last two games since this ridiculous convo

Black: 64 minutes (1st on Magic)
Joseph: 25 mins

An embarrassment for the entire sub forum.


Again, you are the one who called out the last two games.... probably doing no research at all. When in reality those games were garbage time games.

I can't wait to see more excuses once the playoff games start.



You're the one who came running into this thread because one rando game Joseph got more mins than Anthony Black, and now you realize what a hysterically stupid argument you made, sit this one out for a while chief


It isn't, but keep deflecting....

Hilarious you can't even acknowledge you made a bad point about the last 2 games. Clyde, never wrong ever... instead call names and bash posters.
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Re: Anthony Black - Arkansas 

Post#615 » by basketballRob » Tue Apr 15, 2025 6:36 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
Braggins wrote:
Braggins wrote:Black is 6th on the Magic in minutes per game and 1st among non-starters.

Black = 23.9 mpg
Anthony = 18.5 mpg
Joseph = 12.3 mpg

Joseph hasn't actually played more minutes than Black since he was inserted into the Magic's regular rotation on March 13 and his minutes were increased. This exhilarating new round of discussion was started over Joseph having a five game sample where he played more minutes than Black in three of the five games... This has become one of the dumbest threads on this sub.


Anthony Black = 78 gp ~ 24.2 mpg
Cole Anthony = 67 gp ~ 18.4 mpg
Cory Joseph = 50 gp ~ 12.2 mpg

since CJ entered rotation (3/13/25 to end of season)
Anthony Black = 25.2 mpg
Cory Joseph = 22.2 mpg

Reminder not to fall for obvious bait


Do you not see the issue with Black only playing 25 mpg vs Joseph playing 22? Do you not see the issue of Joseph starting over Black? Are you really this caught up with the minor details of 2-3 mins that you can't see the bigger issue that continues to come up no matter who is healthy for the Magic?
Black is young and is still learning how to be effective off the ball because Franz and Paolo are high usage players. When he plays with Paolo and Franz, he disappears for stretches. They've been trying more to split Paolo, Franz, and Black up because they are all better with the ball in their hands.

I would say in quite a few of the games Black comes in during the 3rd quarter and plays the rest of the game because it's hard to take him out.

It reminds me of how they used Amen last season when he was the exact age Black is now. Amen averaged 22.4 mpg. Black averaged 24.2 and played way more games.

Black's stats without Paolo and Franz playing.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/anthony-black-stats-over-last-2-games



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Re: Anthony Black - Arkansas 

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Re: Anthony Black - Arkansas 

Post#618 » by VFX » Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:18 pm

JMAC3 wrote:How is this guy playing less than Cory Joseph lol


He's not really playing less than Cory Joseph. He just isn't starting.
CJ is starting because AB is nearly inconsequential when he's with Franz+Paolo IF he isn't stretching the floor.

He's entirely too inconsistent right now in that aspect. He has the same tendencies those guys have driving to the rim 90% of the time, so he limits the offense if he isnt ready to shoot from outside.

Good defender.
Decent playmaker.
Isn't really helpful to the overall offense if he can't stretch the floor with either of those guys next to him.

Last game against Atlanta for the play-in was more of an anomaly than the status quo.
Magic fans hope he trends that way for the sake of the poor offense.
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Re: Anthony Black - Arkansas 

Post#619 » by ReggiesKnicks » Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:25 pm

VFX wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:How is this guy playing less than Cory Joseph lol


He's not really playing less than Cory Joseph. He just isn't starting.
CJ is starting because AB is nearly inconsequential when he's with Franz+Paolo IF he isn't stretching the floor.

He's entirely too inconsistent right now in that aspect. He has the same tendencies those guys have driving to the rim 90% of the time, so he limits the offense if he isnt ready to shoot from outside.

Good defender.
Decent playmaker.
Isn't really helpful to the overall offense if he can't stretch the floor with either of those guys next to him.

Last game against Atlanta for the play-in was more of an anomaly than the status quo.
Magic fans hope he trends that way for the sake of the poor offense.


The ultimate reason is Orlando lacks shooting from its stars (Paolo, Wagner) while KCP/Cole/Harris have all been inconsistent from 3. Add in the fact they play guys like Johnathan Isaac who can't shoot as a non-Center and they desperately need shooting, and that is why Cory Joseph is playing rotation minutes.

At the end of the day the Magic are a terrible offense with little shooting and the easiest position to add shooting is at PG. Black may need a change of scenery is Orlando needs to surround Paolo/Wagner/Center with 2 bonafide shooters. Hell, imagine if Suggs comes back as a 35% shooter and not a 38% shooter, the offense will continue to be anemic.
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Re: Anthony Black - Arkansas 

Post#620 » by VFX » Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:32 pm

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He's not really playing less than Cory Joseph. He just isn't starting.
CJ is starting because AB is nearly inconsequential when he's with Franz+Paolo IF he isn't stretching the floor.

He's entirely too inconsistent right now in that aspect. He has the same tendencies those guys have driving to the rim 90% of the time, so he limits the offense if he isnt ready to shoot from outside.

Good defender.
Decent playmaker.
Isn't really helpful to the overall offense if he can't stretch the floor with either of those guys next to him.

Last game against Atlanta for the play-in was more of an anomaly than the status quo.
Magic fans hope he trends that way for the sake of the poor offense.


The ultimate reason is Orlando lacks shooting from its stars (Paolo, Wagner) while KCP/Cole/Harris have all been inconsistent from 3. Add in the fact they play guys like Johnathan Isaac who can't shoot as a non-Center and they desperately need shooting, and that is why Cory Joseph is playing rotation minutes.

At the end of the day the Magic are a terrible offense with little shooting and the easiest position to add shooting is at PG. Black may need a change of scenery is Orlando needs to surround Paolo/Wagner/Center with 2 bonafide shooters. Hell, imagine if Suggs comes back as a 35% shooter and not a 38% shooter, the offense will continue to be anemic.


Yes and no.

You are right that Orlando lacks shooting from it's stars.

Cory Joseph is starting because he can actually move the basketball and push the tempo. Orlando's shooting is a large part of the issue, but the offense is also entirely predictable and slow as ****. Suggs shot .400 from 3 last season, before they acquired KCP, and the offense was still garbage for this reason.

Black has a duplicate skill set to Franz and Paolo in terms of how he scores a majority of the time. He's a good defender, but he isnt as useful in Orlando's offense unless he can shoot. He isnt making plays with the ball enough to justify otherwise. Those two guys are going to have the ball in their hands a majority of the time with Black on the floor, which is why hes coming off the bench albeit playing more minutes throughout the course of the game.

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