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2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby

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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#621 » by HEATVols865 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:09 am

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unowen85 wrote:Riley thinks he’s still the genius he used to be. He thinks he’s accumulating assets to use in a trade like he did previously with Mourning and Shaq. But nobody wants our crap players. And he thinks he has a coach that players want to play for, like we used to have when Riley was coach. But players know that Spo is an awful coach and nobody wants to play for Miami anymore.

Does Arison have the balls to ask Riley to step down? I doubt it.


You’re crazy if you think Spo is an awful coach that nobody wants to play for. We do have assets 5 of them and they will all be under contract for 2021 with perhaps the exception of DJJ at a very low cap figure. When we stand there in 2021 with those 5 young guys and 2 max slots I don’t want y’all praising Riley and Spo, because you can’t think rationally and want a championship now. This team is constructed to come into that offseason the number 1 player in the market, and I’m glad we did nothing tonight stupid to change that. Instead we got the guy we know will be there and have value with upside.


BINGO!

Everyone was saying we were crazy for not doing **** for two years in FA because Summer 2010 was so far fetched...yeah, we know how that played out.

We will have a core of solid rotational young players plus two max slots, it will be setting us up to contend for years and years after 2021...


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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#622 » by batterybro42 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:14 am

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batterybro42 wrote:
unowen85 wrote:Riley thinks he’s still the genius he used to be. He thinks he’s accumulating assets to use in a trade like he did previously with Mourning and Shaq. But nobody wants our crap players. And he thinks he has a coach that players want to play for, like we used to have when Riley was coach. But players know that Spo is an awful coach and nobody wants to play for Miami anymore.

Does Arison have the balls to ask Riley to step down? I doubt it.




You’re crazy if you think Spo is an awful coach that nobody wants to play for. We do have assets 5 of them and they will all be under contract for 2021 with perhaps the exception of DJJ at a very low cap figure. When we stand there in 2021 with those 5 young guys and 2 max slots I don’t want y’all praising Riley and Spo, because you can’t think rationally and want a championship now. This team is constructed to come into that offseason the number 1 player in the market, and I’m glad we did nothing tonight stupid to change that. Instead we got the guy we know will be there and have value with upside.


BINGO!

Everyone was saying we were crazy for not doing **** for two years in FA because Summer 2010 was so far fetched...yeah, we know how that played out.

We will have a core of solid rotational young players plus two max slots, it will be setting us up to contend for years and years after 2021...


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Herro’s floor is a coveted shooter on a contending team. Those guys cost serious money, now we have one locked down who will be on a rookie deal with bird rights moving forward. That’s his floor, his ceiling is a smaller PG defending Devin Booker, who cares about defense
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#623 » by Retro_MDR255 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:21 am

love the Jeremiah Martin pickup
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#624 » by Heat_team02 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:22 am

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The front office has lost the fanbase. You can't sell people on anything without the eventual results. If we were a consistent playoff team and contender, people would question things but we would give the benefit of the doubt. That benefit we used to give Pat is gone. It's going to be like this all year on every social media post unfortunately.



crazy he broke our twitter fanbase for a 2022 2nd and "cash"


lol but the negativity was already there before the draft. I saw it on every post. Now it's complete tsunami of it. Every move is going to be overanalyzed and questioned. Literally every team I root for is going through this or was going through this so I have experience with this. It's going to be a **** storm on every post until something major happens.


Wait till he gets to the old vet loyalty contract part I'm waiting anxiously to watch that train wreck.

And Pat if you want JJ and Dion in shape, you assign trainers the loyalty mentor contract thing isn't helping them stay in shape.

Looking at the brighter side, at least Spo finally gets to prove that he knows how to coach offense but I'm sure he's going to wish he could use Bol Bol as a flag pole if he wanted at that draft range.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#625 » by HeatFanLifer » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:29 am

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batterybro42 wrote:
unowen85 wrote:Riley thinks he’s still the genius he used to be. He thinks he’s accumulating assets to use in a trade like he did previously with Mourning and Shaq. But nobody wants our crap players. And he thinks he has a coach that players want to play for, like we used to have when Riley was coach. But players know that Spo is an awful coach and nobody wants to play for Miami anymore.

Does Arison have the balls to ask Riley to step down? I doubt it.


You’re crazy if you think Spo is an awful coach that nobody wants to play for. We do have assets 5 of them and they will all be under contract for 2021 with perhaps the exception of DJJ at a very low cap figure. When we stand there in 2021 with those 5 young guys and 2 max slots I don’t want y’all praising Riley and Spo, because you can’t think rationally and want a championship now. This team is constructed to come into that offseason the number 1 player in the market, and I’m glad we did nothing tonight stupid to change that. Instead we got the guy we know will be there and have value with upside.


BINGO!

Everyone was saying we were crazy for not doing **** for two years in FA because Summer 2010 was so far fetched...yeah, we know how that played out.

We will have a core of solid rotational young players plus two max slots, it will be setting us up to contend for years and years after 2021...


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I can deal with the team sucking for two years, but the team has already sucked for 3 years and it’s looking like they’re gonna suck for at least 2 more years.

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Post#626 » by BBallFreak » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:46 am

Some of you guys need to step off the ledge and consider what Riley is trying to build with our youth; a modern NBA team.

Pg: Winslow
Sg: Herro
Sf: Richardson
Pf: Okpala
Cc: Adebayo

Herro adds shooting and should compliment Richardson and Winslow perfectly if we use him right. Okpala adds an athletic modern NBA power forward with tons of upside. We'll sign him to our standard, high second round pick contract and control his rights for years. Yes, it would have been nice to keep Bol Bol as well, but I'm not heart broken over that. I'm very interested to see how these pieces fit together.
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Post#627 » by puppa bear » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:51 am

unowen85 wrote:Riley thinks he’s still the genius he used to be. He thinks he’s accumulating assets to use in a trade like he did previously with Mourning and Shaq. But nobody wants our crap players. And he thinks he has a coach that players want to play for, like we used to have when Riley was coach. But players know that Spo is an awful coach and nobody wants to play for Miami anymore.

Does Arison have the balls to ask Riley to step down? I doubt it.

Hey unowen - welcome back. Haven’t seen you posting for a while, hopefully we see a resurgence.

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Post#628 » by BBallFreak » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:53 am

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unowen85 wrote:Riley thinks he’s still the genius he used to be. He thinks he’s accumulating assets to use in a trade like he did previously with Mourning and Shaq. But nobody wants our crap players. And he thinks he has a coach that players want to play for, like we used to have when Riley was coach. But players know that Spo is an awful coach and nobody wants to play for Miami anymore.

Does Arison have the balls to ask Riley to step down? I doubt it.

Hey unowen - welcome back. Haven’t seen you posting for a while, hopefully we see a resurgence.

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I'm always lurking. Just usually don't post. My energy usually goes into the Current Affairs board and Trades and Transactions
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#629 » by Shootit » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:53 am

I get the pick of Herro. He should provide spacing/shooting ability and seems to be almost perfect at the FT line. Question is what's his true upside? I have to admit I really didn't focus too much on him but I'm far from amateur scout lol.
Is he destined to be another TJ/Ellington role player, or can he elevate his game to be considered a legit scorer? Can the Heat develop him properly?

KZ I have no complaints about. Seems like the ideal 2nd round pick player. Seems to have a just about NBA ready frame and the physical talent/length is there.

Still can't believe Bol Bol fell to 44 and then was traded.
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Post#630 » by batterybro42 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:55 am

Tyler Herro is the same height as Devin Booker with 2 inches less in standing reach
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Post#631 » by HEATVols865 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:58 am

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batterybro42 wrote:
You’re crazy if you think Spo is an awful coach that nobody wants to play for. We do have assets 5 of them and they will all be under contract for 2021 with perhaps the exception of DJJ at a very low cap figure. When we stand there in 2021 with those 5 young guys and 2 max slots I don’t want y’all praising Riley and Spo, because you can’t think rationally and want a championship now. This team is constructed to come into that offseason the number 1 player in the market, and I’m glad we did nothing tonight stupid to change that. Instead we got the guy we know will be there and have value with upside.


BINGO!

Everyone was saying we were crazy for not doing **** for two years in FA because Summer 2010 was so far fetched...yeah, we know how that played out.

We will have a core of solid rotational young players plus two max slots, it will be setting us up to contend for years and years after 2021...


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I can deal with the team sucking for two years, but the team has already sucked for 3 years and it’s looking like they’re gonna suck for at least 2 more years.

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We sucked from 2006 until 2010...4 years. I’ll take 5 if it nets an elite team in 2021


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Post#632 » by puppa bear » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:05 pm

I’m gonna be honest, I’m legit pissed about two things:
1. Sekou was on the board when we picked Herro. I thought there was no chance he’d be there, and he was (& still is) my Giannis-Level sleeper. He may only become a Booker-level sleeper, but even then it’s a pretty sweet pick-up this late in the lotto. If Pistons manage him right, he’ll be the reason they don’t resign Blake.
2. We traded Bol. Having the Herro safety pick, or perhaps attempted Klay/Booker-quest (if we want to go glass half full) was mitigated by the swift action of snagging KZ (I’ll rave about that shortly). But then taking Bol, a future all-star level C if he stays healthy, was just the perfect level of ballsy. Exactly what you want from your picks if you have three: the sure talent, a quality contributed who slipped, then a potential boom/bust. Trading Bol, and it not being part of the KZ deal (we would never have gotten to make the pick of it was) was just a kick in the pants. The KZ move saved it from being a kick from a donkey wearing bluntstones.

On the KZ move:
Phucking love it. It was the right amount of decisiveness. Moving for a legit top-20 talent that would work well in our system, and had no real red flags. Great. This was a move that was well timed, and the type that has been lacking from our draft team for a while now.

I talk myself down from the ledge and start to think: “maybe we can grab a nice UDFA or two”, then look and see that Ponds, King, Reid, Porter, and others are still available. I think: “damn, this is salvageable”. Then Pat “blah, blah, blah”s about the pick and playing the players I thought (hoped) we were lining up to trade, and yep ... I’m back there.


Ultimately, I feel like if we play the kids to develop them we could find a really nice set of supporting players to a future star (or two). If we clear enough space in 2021 & do the right thing then we could look attractive to a pair of FAs who want to play together with a group that already has D, slashing and shooting.
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Post#633 » by twix2500 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:08 pm



Tyler has game, he knows how to use his talent and limitations. But man I'm really concern is he gonna be able to get by his man on the dribble in the NBA. He gonna have to really work on his quickness. He does know how to use angles, catching his man off balance. I suspect he will have the Ellington greenlight.

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Post#634 » by Hallstar » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:10 pm

BBallFreak wrote:Some of you guys need to step off the ledge and consider what Riley is trying to build with our youth; a modern NBA team.

Pg: Winslow
Sg: Herro
Sf: Richardson
Pf: Okpala
Cc: Adebayo

Herro adds shooting and should compliment Richardson and Winslow perfectly if we use him right. Okpala adds an athletic modern NBA power forward with tons of upside. We'll sign him to our standard, high second round pick contract and control his rights for years. Yes, it would have been nice to keep Bol Bol as well, but I'm not heart broken over that. I'm very interested to see how these pieces fit together.

Okay...we have the bench, is phase 2 of the plan the modern NBA starters?
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Post#635 » by BBallFreak » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:13 pm

Hallstar wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:Some of you guys need to step off the ledge and consider what Riley is trying to build with our youth; a modern NBA team.

Pg: Winslow
Sg: Herro
Sf: Richardson
Pf: Okpala
Cc: Adebayo

Herro adds shooting and should compliment Richardson and Winslow perfectly if we use him right. Okpala adds an athletic modern NBA power forward with tons of upside. We'll sign him to our standard, high second round pick contract and control his rights for years. Yes, it would have been nice to keep Bol Bol as well, but I'm not heart broken over that. I'm very interested to see how these pieces fit together.

Okay...we have the bench, is phase 2 of the plan the modern NBA starters?
So, according to you, Richardson, Winslow, and Adebayo are all bench players?
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Post#636 » by DayofMourning » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:21 pm

Wiltside wrote:Man, just when tonight couldn’t get more depressing...these Riley quotes are sad af


Yeah, we need to hire someone who's better at public speaking. He sounds so damn stupid these days. This corny **** might have worked in the 90s.
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Post#637 » by islandHEAT » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:23 pm

Why are we drafting guys in the 1st round that will pan out the same as late 2nd/undrafted guys we have developed in the past....
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Post#638 » by twix2500 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:27 pm

Here are some off the ball wing shooters comparison of former Heat players

Tyler Herro - 6'6" Height, 6'3 Wingspan
Jason Kapono - 6'6.5" Height, 6'4" Wingspan
Rex Chapman - 6'4" Height, ?? Wingspan
Deaquan Cook - 6'5.5" Height, 6'8" Wingspan
Wayne Ellington - 6'5.25" Height, 6'6" Wingspan
Eddie House - 5'11.5" Height, 6'3" Wingspan
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Post#639 » by islandHEAT » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:30 pm

twix2500 wrote:Here are some off the ball wing shooters comparison of former Heat players

Tyler Herro - 6'6" Height, 6'3 Wingspan
Jason Kapono - 6'6.5" Height, 6'4" Wingspan
Rex Chapman - 6'4" Height, ?? Wingspan
Deaquan Cook - 6'5.5" Height, 6'8" Wingspan
Wayne Ellington - 6'5.25 Height, 6'6" Wingspan
Eddie House - 5'11.5" Height, 6'3" Wingspan


Great....

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Post#640 » by Dr_Heat » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:30 pm

Im good with Tyler my Hero and KZ but you just don’t let a top talent like Bol Bol slip like that. I know people are concerned with his health in the future but right now he’s walking and talking. You give this kid chance and you roll the dice. This will go down as one of those “ what if moments”.
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