Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20

[jmr07019]

If you take out the MEM pick and add a different first or two, how much salary do you have to put on top of Langford and one of Theis/Kanter?

Theyd only deal Turner in a package including Hayward IMO

I would do that. Turner's probably a worse player right now than Hayward right now but Turner's will be in his prime while Tatum and Brown are in theirs. Also fills a hole on our team now and moving forward.

edit: some of his stats (rebounding %, 2 pt%, assists) are down this year that's a bit concerning

[100proof]

If you take out the MEM pick and add a different first or two, how much salary do you have to put on top of Langford and one of Theis/Kanter?

Theyd only deal Turner in a package including Hayward IMO

I would be interested is such a deal.

Hayward, semi, poirier for turner, McDermott, holliday maybe.

Kemba/wannamaker
Smart/holliday
Brown/mcdermott
Tatum/theis
Turner/kanter

With edwards, green, gwilliams, timelord as young potential players.

[Floody100]

If you take out the MEM pick and add a different first or two, how much salary do you have to put on top of Langford and one of Theis/Kanter?

Theyd only deal Turner in a package including Hayward IMO

I would do that. Turner's probably a worse player right now than Hayward right now but Turner's will be in his prime while Tatum and Brown are in theirs. Also fills a hole on our team now and moving forward.

edit: some of his stats (rebounding %, 2 pt%, assists) are down this year that's a bit concerning

Their is absolutely no chance we trade Hayward with the form he’s in.

[100proof]

If you take out the MEM pick and add a different first or two, how much salary do you have to put on top of Langford and one of Theis/Kanter?

Theyd only deal Turner in a package including Hayward IMO

I would do that. Turner's probably a worse player right now than Hayward right now but Turner's will be in his prime while Tatum and Brown are in theirs. Also fills a hole on our team now and moving forward.

edit: some of his stats (rebounding %, 2 pt%, assists) are down this year that's a bit concerning

Not really concerned about that. Sabonis has been really good which takes away from a few of thise thibgs for Turner

[Fencer reregistered]

Indiana wouldn't trade Turner for Hayward unless they knew he wanted to stay.
Boston wouldn't trade Hayward away unless they knew he wanted to move on.
Hayward wouldn't want to move on unless he had a specific place he wanted to go, like Indiana.
Hawyard wouldn't chose Indiana until Oladipo's recovery was confirmed, if then.

[Floody100]

Hayward for Turner is a win for Indy & loss for us so NO.
If we can get Turner without having to give up Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Hayward or Smart I’d be up for it though.
We’d probably have to add a first round pick though which I wouldn’t be too against considering I do rate Turner quite highly.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Indiana wouldn't trade Turner for Hayward unless they knew he wanted to stay.
Boston wouldn't trade Hayward away unless they knew he wanted to move on.
Hayward wouldn't want to move on unless he had a specific place he wanted to go, like Indiana.
Hawyard wouldn't chose Indiana until Oladipo's recovery was confirmed, if then.

Lotta speculation here —guessing that Gordon and Robyn would be very interested in going home and being closer to family.

[Homerclease]

Indiana wouldn't trade Turner for Hayward unless they knew he wanted to stay.
Boston wouldn't trade Hayward away unless they knew he wanted to move on.
Hayward wouldn't want to move on unless he had a specific place he wanted to go, like Indiana.
Hawyard wouldn't chose Indiana until Oladipo's recovery was confirmed, if then.

Lotta speculation here —guessing that Gordon and Robyn would be very interested in going home and being closer to family.

Gordon came here to win, and I still think we give him a better chance to do that than Indy

[Celtics_History_Lesson]

The biggest reason to trade for Kevin Love is to stop teams the Celtics will face in the playoffs, and finals, from getting him.

The next reasons, he rebounds, hits 3s, hits free throws, passes the ball.


Smart, some first round pick rookies, then a couple of salary fillers, it works financially.

Romeo and G Williams, or C Edwards if they want him although they have enough small guards who shoot the ball.



You don't want the Lakers to send Pope and Green and Dudley and the 29th pick in a draft to steal Love.

Miami, Houston, other winning teams could add him for little. Probably not Milwaukee or Philadelphia, harder for those teams to get the right money in the deal for contracts. The Clippers could add him without moving anyone important, Harkless, Green, Shamet and other pieces. Nets are not contending this season, and may implode soon anyway, but they could find a way to add him quite easily.



All-Stars, and former All-Stars, don't become available very often. He has been to Fenway.

Cavs can only expect some money savings, youth and/or picks.


Celtics will struggle to win a title with two point guards and three shooting guards as their key players.



He probably just goes to Portland and is never seen again, which would at least keep him away from the East and also the Lakers.

[Floody100]

The biggest reason to trade for Kevin Love is to stop teams the Celtics will face in the playoffs, and finals, from getting him.

The next reasons, he rebounds, hits 3s, hits free throws, passes the ball.


Smart, some first round pick rookies, then a couple of salary fillers, it works financially.

Romeo and G Williams, or C Edwards if they want him although they have enough small guards who shoot the ball.



You don't want the Lakers to send Pope and Green and Dudley and the 29th pick in a draft to steal Love.

Miami, Houston, other winning teams could add him for little. Probably not Milwaukee or Philadelphia, harder for those teams to get the right money in the deal for contracts. The Clippers could add him without moving anyone important, Harkless, Green, Shamet and other pieces. Nets are not contending this season, and may implode soon anyway, but they could find a way to add him quite easily.



All-Stars, and former All-Stars, don't become available very often. He has been to Fenway.

Cavs can only expect some money savings, youth and/or picks.


Celtics will struggle to win a title with two point guards and three shooting guards as their key players.



He probably just goes to Portland and is never seen again, which would at least keep him away from the East and also the Lakers.

We don’t need him though. We need a Big who can defend the likes of Embiid & Giannis, Love can’t do that.
Trading Smart for Love makes our team worse.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Indiana wouldn't trade Turner for Hayward unless they knew he wanted to stay.
Boston wouldn't trade Hayward away unless they knew he wanted to move on.
Hayward wouldn't want to move on unless he had a specific place he wanted to go, like Indiana.
Hawyard wouldn't chose Indiana until Oladipo's recovery was confirmed, if then.

Lotta speculation here —guessing that Gordon and Robyn would be very interested in going home and being closer to family.

Gordon came here to win, and I still think we give him a better chance to do that than Indy

Oh i agree and am not advocating trading. Merely stating that I dont think he’d be too upset going home to Indy.

[Mr_Mojo_Risin]

Worthwhile 5s we could trade ($ wise) for without losing any of our core 5 (IMO of course).

- Bryant
- Valanciunas
- Olynyk
- Plumlee

Of that group I don’t think it’s likely that Denver or Miami would want to trade Plumlee or Olynyk.

Getting Valanciunas would require giving up something like Kanter, Langford, Poirer and Ojeleye to match within 125% dollars but given I don’t know much about cap rules I wonder if that would likely put us in a cap situation where we couldn’t pay Tatum properly next year.

If we could get Bryant and/or if Bogut is waived I think we’d improve to be more serious contenders come playoff time.

[Curmudgeon]

We don'y need another center. We need another sniper. The Celtics are near the bottom of the league in shooting percentage.

[Floody100]

We don'y need another center. We need another sniper. The Celtics are near the bottom of the league in shooting percentage.

Shooting percentage for us won’t matter when Giannis & Embiid are getting to the rim with ease lol

[Andrew McCeltic]

Theyd only deal Turner in a package including Hayward IMO

I would do that. Turner's probably a worse player right now than Hayward right now but Turner's will be in his prime while Tatum and Brown are in theirs. Also fills a hole on our team now and moving forward.

edit: some of his stats (rebounding %, 2 pt%, assists) are down this year that's a bit concerning

Not really concerned about that. Sabonis has been really good which takes away from a few of thise thibgs for Turner

None of you have answered my question - and Hayward for Turner, like Langford/MEM pick, is an overpay - Turner doesn’t help us win now more than Hayward, and his long-term value is lower than Langford and the MEM pick.

Some of it’s playing with Sabonis - I don’t know Turner’s advanced defensive stats this year - but he’s also a limited player. He’s still young and developing, and the one thing he does he does extremely well - but he doesn’t rebound well at all for his size - you could probably go so far as to call him a bad rebounder. He hasn’t added much of a consistent low post game, but he’s not great at playing without the ball. Like with most players you could argue a different system and role could unlock different parts of his game, but apart from his plus rim protection and floor spacing there’s not much. He’s closer to someone like Valanciunas or Kanter than to Gobert or Embiid, he just happens to have the first two boxes most teams would check in a roleplaying center, so he seems more like a “star” than he is.

[captain green]

As long as we keep core 5 and gets us taller. I would like to add a consistent shooter. I'm not sure what semi, Langford, and other stuff gets though. And nothing is screaming waive someone and sign free agent. I think it is what it is until next year.

[Higgs Boston]

We don'y need another center. We need another sniper. The Celtics are near the bottom of the league in shooting percentage.

We need both players, we need interior defense and we are one of the worst rebounding teams in the league (amount of rebounds given up)

[Roddy]

We don'y need another center. We need another sniper. The Celtics are near the bottom of the league in shooting percentage.

We need both players, we are one of the worst rebounding teams in the league (amount of rebounds given up)

Agree. I'm tired to see one guy boxing out and the other four guys standing and waiting.

A guy like Capela would be great or Richaun Holmes.

[SmartWentCrazy]

I would do that. Turner's probably a worse player right now than Hayward right now but Turner's will be in his prime while Tatum and Brown are in theirs. Also fills a hole on our team now and moving forward.

edit: some of his stats (rebounding %, 2 pt%, assists) are down this year that's a bit concerning

Not really concerned about that. Sabonis has been really good which takes away from a few of thise thibgs for Turner

None of you have answered my question - and Hayward for Turner, like Langford/MEM pick, is an overpay - Turner doesn’t help us win now more than Hayward, and his long-term value is lower than Langford and the MEM pick.

Some of it’s playing with Sabonis - I don’t know Turner’s advanced defensive stats this year - but he’s also a limited player. He’s still young and developing, and the one thing he does he does extremely well - but he doesn’t rebound well at all for his size - you could probably go so far as to call him a bad rebounder. He hasn’t added much of a consistent low post game, but he’s not great at playing without the ball. Like with most players you could argue a different system and role could unlock different parts of his game, but apart from his plus rim protection and floor spacing there’s not much. He’s closer to someone like Valanciunas or Kanter than to Gobert or Embiid, he just happens to have the first two boxes most teams would check in a roleplaying center, so he seems more like a “star” than he is.

Turner is like Al Horford minus the play making. He’s a defensive center with plus shooting. He has meh rebounding, biased downward by his overlapping PT with Sabonis. He's fantastic defensively— was voted third best at C in the NBA last year— and its laughable to compare him to Val or Kanter. He would fit us like a glove and has built in chemistry with our main guys from team USA. He’s not a star, but he’s an elite level role player with an awesome contract.

[100proof]

Not really concerned about that. Sabonis has been really good which takes away from a few of thise thibgs for Turner

None of you have answered my question - and Hayward for Turner, like Langford/MEM pick, is an overpay - Turner doesn’t help us win now more than Hayward, and his long-term value is lower than Langford and the MEM pick.

Some of it’s playing with Sabonis - I don’t know Turner’s advanced defensive stats this year - but he’s also a limited player. He’s still young and developing, and the one thing he does he does extremely well - but he doesn’t rebound well at all for his size - you could probably go so far as to call him a bad rebounder. He hasn’t added much of a consistent low post game, but he’s not great at playing without the ball. Like with most players you could argue a different system and role could unlock different parts of his game, but apart from his plus rim protection and floor spacing there’s not much. He’s closer to someone like Valanciunas or Kanter than to Gobert or Embiid, he just happens to have the first two boxes most teams would check in a roleplaying center, so he seems more like a “star” than he is.

Turner is like Al Horford minus the play making. He’s a defensive center with plus shooting. He has meh rebounding, biased downward by his overlapping PT with Sabonis. He's fantastic defensively— was voted third best at C in the NBA last year— and its laughable to compare him to Val or Kanter. He would fit us like a glove and has built in chemistry with our main guys from team USA. He’s not a star, but he’s an elite level role player with an awesome contract.

I would also add that:

Team wins without hayward and with hayward still has a big hole in the middle.

A deal involving turner for hayward would still have other pieces that would bolster bench depth, even further improving team.