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Re: Suns Path to Playoffs 

Post#621 » by King4Day » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:08 am

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King4Day wrote:No doubt Luka is elite, but if he doesn't address his FT shooting, he'll never be on the same level as Lebron or Kobe


Better FT shooter than LeBron though.


Wow really?
Well he still needs to improve it. And prob will. But that's prob the only thing holding him back from best player in the league right now.
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Post#622 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:11 am

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sunskerr wrote:Our bed was made in the regular season where we didn't get it done so we put ourselves in this position where even if we go 8-0 we could still miss the playoffs. Going 8-0 is the only thing under our control and the team knew that going into the bubble.


Its aytons fault for missing 30 games

Yes

But he's also one reason why we made the bubble and we're 7-0 right now
**** if the suns would have just won that San Antonio game in Mexico they'd be sitting pretty. That was just a ridiculous loss, I remember I had the sound off and was playing with my kids and looked up and had no idea how they blew like that.

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Re: Suns Path to Playoffs 

Post#623 » by insomniac00 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:37 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:
starbosa10 wrote:
Its aytons fault for missing 30 games

Yes

But he's also one reason why we made the bubble and we're 7-0 right now
**** if the suns would have just won that San Antonio game in Mexico they'd be sitting pretty. That was just a ridiculous loss, I remember I had the sound off and was playing with my kids and looked up and had no idea how they blew like that.

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I wouldn't rip your hair out. Just tell yourself every team had games like that throughout the season that they want back. You are what your record says you are.
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Re: Suns Path to Playoffs 

Post#624 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:42 am

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starbosa10 wrote:
Its aytons fault for missing 30 games

Yes

But he's also one reason why we made the bubble and we're 7-0 right now
**** if the suns would have just won that San Antonio game in Mexico they'd be sitting pretty. That was just a ridiculous loss, I remember I had the sound off and was playing with my kids and looked up and had no idea how they blew like that.

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Yeah that one was ridiculous but I don't focus on any one game. Ultimately it's progress. And this is real, measurable progress we can be proud of and I think most importantly, winning cures all. Now these guys know what it feels like and how to put together real win streaks and that's something they'll be focusing on next season
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Post#625 » by Jdiddy701 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:01 am

Jarlaxle0204 wrote:Need to beat Dallas. That's all I'm going to worry about. Whatever else happens, happens.

Crazy because I haven’t been worried about our games, been more worried about Memphis and Portland. It’s crazy that I’m feeling like the Suns will/can win any game. I haven’t felt like this in a decade.


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Post#626 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:03 am

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WeekapaugGroove wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:Yes

But he's also one reason why we made the bubble and we're 7-0 right now
**** if the suns would have just won that San Antonio game in Mexico they'd be sitting pretty. That was just a ridiculous loss, I remember I had the sound off and was playing with my kids and looked up and had no idea how they blew like that.

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I wouldn't rip your hair out. Just tell yourself every team had games like that throughout the season that they want back. You are what your record says you are.
Absolutely every team has some games they felt got away. Suns did seem to have more than their fair share this year and were 14th in the league in net rating so that profiles as a .500 team.

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Post#627 » by spanishninja » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:04 am

I'm not bummed out about this bubble experience at all. If we make it into the play-in, most likely it would be rigged against us anyway, so we'd end up one game away from the postseason just like in 2013-2014. Not making it into the playin just means we're two games away. Compare the positive stuff we've been discussing over the past two weeks to what we were doing at the end of the 18-19 season (meaningless rosterbating about theoretical offseason moves that were never going to happen) and I'll take what we got this year any day.

At the end of the day our team has already generated more positive mainstream media buzz from the bubble than the last 5 years combined. We are definitely seen as a team that will progress next year, which is a hell of a lot more than anybody would have said even earlier this season. Maybe this will improve our attractiveness to free agents in the future.
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Post#628 » by Christine-In-AZ » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:16 am

Not surprisingly, but still disappointingly, I see the "woe are us" folk, conspiracy theorists are in full bloom after that Blazer victory. Sad. And a big element as to why I don't visit here nearly as often as I used to.

The Porzingas offensive foul...eh? Iffy,I'll admit. But the Burke one at the end? 17 outta 20 it gets called. It was a foul.

Whack-a-do party line- The NBA wants a Blazers-Lakers series over PHX_LA cuz .....Really? Why exactly? OK, granted Lilliard/McCollum and the Blazers have some playoff gravitas. They won't be a pushover in a first round series. OK, Nice set up, but you want a really cool storyline? How ''bout a team that out of no where (argued by many/most "not bubble worthy") runs off 9 straight wins, with a young phenom (Booker) takes on Lebron in the first round. WTF will happen. King V young Upstart!!!

This is an obvious great storyline, except for the "they're out to GET US bunch" who don't seem to process the elements, cuz-"The NBA is out to get us" mindset. Again, sad. Better put- pathetic

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Let's beat the Mavs on Thursday. Hope for the best beyond that. Nobody is out to get us. There is no bogeyman. There are no conspiracies against our team. Stuff happens, Dame's ridiculous, bouncing 6 foot high three??? Luck yes, but Booker does it? You're giving him props. Smile. No Smile bigger We're in the F'ning mix! Sweet...sweeter than we could have hoped.
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Post#629 » by cberry78 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:17 am

This is fine. I'm perfectly OK with riding a 10 game win streak into a first-round series against the Lakers.
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Post#630 » by Revived » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:25 am

Wait, so we make the play-in tournament if we win and Griz or Spurs lose?

I wish we played the Mavs before the Griz play Bucks because if we beat Mavs then Grizzlies would know they have nothing to play for.
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Post#631 » by Christine-In-AZ » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:26 am

spanishninja wrote:I'm not bummed out about this bubble experience at all. If we make it into the play-in, most likely it would be rigged against us anyway, so we'd end up one game away from the postseason just like in 2013-2014. Not making it into the playin just means we're two games away. Compare the positive stuff we've been discussing over the past two weeks to what we were doing at the end of the 18-19 season (meaningless rosterbating about theoretical offseason moves that were never going to happen) and I'll take what we got this year any day.

At the end of the day our team has already generated more positive mainstream media buzz from the bubble than the last 5 years combined. We are definitely seen as a team that will progress next year, which is a hell of a lot more than anybody would have said even earlier this season. Maybe this will improve our attractiveness to free agents in the future.


Why do you believe IT is rigged against the Phoenix Suns?
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Post#632 » by Revived » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:26 am

insomniac00 wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:Yes

But he's also one reason why we made the bubble and we're 7-0 right now
**** if the suns would have just won that San Antonio game in Mexico they'd be sitting pretty. That was just a ridiculous loss, I remember I had the sound off and was playing with my kids and looked up and had no idea how they blew like that.

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I wouldn't rip your hair out. Just tell yourself every team had games like that throughout the season that they want back. You are what your record says you are.

We did lead the league in most losses within 3 pts though (8 losses).
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Post#633 » by spanishninja » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:27 am

Revived wrote:Wait, so we make the play-in tournament if we win and Griz or Spurs lose?

I wish we played the Mavs before the Griz play Bucks because if we beat Mavs then Grizzlies would know they have nothing to play for.


If we win, Spurs winning or losing won't matter.

On your second point, Grizzlies would have something to play for regardless of whether we win or not. They would need to lose for us to get in.
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Post#634 » by spanishninja » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:28 am

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spanishninja wrote:I'm not bummed out about this bubble experience at all. If we make it into the play-in, most likely it would be rigged against us anyway, so we'd end up one game away from the postseason just like in 2013-2014. Not making it into the playin just means we're two games away. Compare the positive stuff we've been discussing over the past two weeks to what we were doing at the end of the 18-19 season (meaningless rosterbating about theoretical offseason moves that were never going to happen) and I'll take what we got this year any day.

At the end of the day our team has already generated more positive mainstream media buzz from the bubble than the last 5 years combined. We are definitely seen as a team that will progress next year, which is a hell of a lot more than anybody would have said even earlier this season. Maybe this will improve our attractiveness to free agents in the future.


Why do you believe IT is rigged against the Phoenix Suns?


Same reason Dame got 18 FTAs this game. The league needs Blazers to take on the Lakers. Hopefully they'll at least use us for ratings in the play-ins but there's no way we would be allowed to beat Portland for the playoffs.
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Post#635 » by Christine-In-AZ » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:46 am

spanishninja wrote:
ChrisInAZ wrote:
spanishninja wrote:I'm not bummed out about this bubble experience at all. If we make it into the play-in, most likely it would be rigged against us anyway, so we'd end up one game away from the postseason just like in 2013-2014. Not making it into the playin just means we're two games away. Compare the positive stuff we've been discussing over the past two weeks to what we were doing at the end of the 18-19 season (meaningless rosterbating about theoretical offseason moves that were never going to happen) and I'll take what we got this year any day.

At the end of the day our team has already generated more positive mainstream media buzz from the bubble than the last 5 years combined. We are definitely seen as a team that will progress next year, which is a hell of a lot more than anybody would have said even earlier this season. Maybe this will improve our attractiveness to free agents in the future.


Why do you believe IT is rigged against the Phoenix Suns?


Same reason Dame got 18 FTAs this game. The league needs Blazers to take on the Lakers. Hopefully they'll at least use us for ratings in the play-ins but there's no way we would be allowed to beat Portland for the playoffs.


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Post#636 » by SunsRback4Good » Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:11 am

ChrisInAZ wrote:
spanishninja wrote:
ChrisInAZ wrote:
Why do you believe IT is rigged against the Phoenix Suns?


Same reason Dame got 18 FTAs this game. The league needs Blazers to take on the Lakers. Hopefully they'll at least use us for ratings in the play-ins but there's no way we would be allowed to beat Portland for the playoffs.


Have a shot of hydroxychloroquine.

It's on me


You're so in denial its not even funny. You assume the NBA, refs and commish are not two faced. Tim Donaghy was surely a saint, right? Keep living in your own safe space and bubble and assume the world is made up of butterflies and unicorns. There are fixes in all sports its part of the entertainment and we all watch as blind sheep cause we were used to as kids. It's very difficult to walk away from watching sports as a kid and later realizing how sports are pulled on strings for storytelling. That's all I am gonna speak on that matter. Do some research and you'll figure out the truth as well. Peace.
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Re: Suns Path to Playoffs 

Post#637 » by bwgood77 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:26 am

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bwgood77 wrote:
King4Day wrote:No doubt Luka is elite, but if he doesn't address his FT shooting, he'll never be on the same level as Lebron or Kobe


Better FT shooter than LeBron though.


Wow really?
Well he still needs to improve it. And prob will. But that's prob the only thing holding him back from best player in the league right now.


Yes, I mainly know because of fantasy, considering he drops solely because of his free throw %.
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Post#638 » by Bob8 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:35 am

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2020/8/11/21364470/dallas-mavericks-trey-burke-offensive-foul-damian-lillard-final-seconds-trail-blazers

Imho that kind of fouls shouldn't and normally aren't whistled in last seconds of games. Especially in so important games for some teams. Very unfortunate for the Suns. And we must not forget that Porzingis' offensive foul was total bull too.
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Post#639 » by NaturalBuns » Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:47 am

What’s up with these games scoring numbers in the bubble. Is the games going to reffed different a week from now?
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Post#640 » by suns12345 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:47 am

ChrisInAZ wrote:Not surprisingly, but still disappointingly, I see the "woe are us" folk, conspiracy theorists are in full bloom after that Blazer victory. Sad. And a big element as to why I don't visit here nearly as often as I used to.

The Porzingas offensive foul...eh? Iffy,I'll admit. But the Burke one at the end? 17 outta 20 it gets called. It was a foul.

Whack-a-do party line- The NBA wants a Blazers-Lakers series over PHX_LA cuz .....Really? Why exactly? OK, granted Lilliard/McCollum and the Blazers have some playoff gravitas. They won't be a pushover in a first round series. OK, Nice set up, but you want a really cool storyline? How ''bout a team that out of no where (argued by many/most "not bubble worthy") runs off 9 straight wins, with a young phenom (Booker) takes on Lebron in the first round. WTF will happen. King V young Upstart!!!

This is an obvious great storyline, except for the "they're out to GET US bunch" who don't seem to process the elements, cuz-"The NBA is out to get us" mindset. Again, sad. Better put- pathetic

TV/NBA money is NOT like an immediate cash register based on how many are watching per game/series, note to the suspicious/conspiracy folk: The Phoenix and Portland TV markets? It's no contest. Portland is a f'ing suburb. Phoenix is a metropolis in TV viewership. It's a moot fact but...there it is

Let's beat the Mavs on Thursday. Hope for the best beyond that. Nobody is out to get us. There is no bogeyman. There are no conspiracies against our team. Stuff happens, Dame's ridiculous, bouncing 6 foot high three??? Luck yes, but Booker does it? You're giving him props. Smile. No Smile bigger We're in the F'ning mix! Sweet...sweeter than we could have hoped.


Yep, spot on.

While i've got no grounds to fully rule out any sort of tampering in the NBA, the extent to which it is claimed by some is a bit much for me. Besides, referees can only dictate the result by so much.

Dame still had to hit those shots and the NBA didn't make his shot bounce 10 ft in the air and drop in.

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