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Why trade Scherff. Every year we have made do with a patchwork OLine that we don't invest much in. And every year we have QB's who have the yips or happy feet or get smeared. If we have fast receivers we need time to let them break loose. If we have a QB with a rocket arm we need to give him at least to "three-one-thousand..." to sort his options then launch it.

Because they seem to be at a contract impasse so the thinking is trade him now while he has value versus letting him walk in a year....

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Why trade Scherff. Every year we have made do with a patchwork OLine that we don't invest much in. And every year we have QB's who have the yips or happy feet or get smeared. If we have fast receivers we need time to let them break loose. If we have a QB with a rocket arm we need to give him at least to "three-one-thousand..." to sort his options then launch it.

Because they seem to be at a contract impasse so the thinking is trade him now while he has value versus letting him walk in a year....

I think Scherff is trade bait for moving up in the draft on Thursday. They may part with him vs giving up a 2nd or 3rd round pick as part of a package. I'd love to take that cap and use some of it on quality vets who are still sitting out in FA like Steven Nelson and carry some of those $ to next year. It's not like the team is bare. Schweitzer showed he can start and Charles could potentially be an elite guard. You can also always draft another guard.

[Ruzious]

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Why trade Scherff. Every year we have made do with a patchwork OLine that we don't invest much in. And every year we have QB's who have the yips or happy feet or get smeared. If we have fast receivers we need time to let them break loose. If we have a QB with a rocket arm we need to give him at least to "three-one-thousand..." to sort his options then launch it.

I think the Skins failure with Scherff is not signing him to a long-term contract. They've been using the franchise tag on him, and the franchise amount they have to pay is based on all offensive linemen - not just guards - so he's getting paid based on what the top left tackles make - and guards just aren't worth as much as LT's. Also, he can leave after this season as a free agent.

[Ruzious]

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Should we - if the cost is our 2 3rds?

[doclinkin]

Alright, reasonable responses. I can see the Sherriff as part of a trade up. Shame that the culture re-set with Rivera hasn't budged Scherff to re-sign. But I can understand anyone wanting not to be a part of a Snyder owned team. Still, franchise dollars or not, we rarely invest in the big dudes up front and it seems to me that has been the genesis of so many of the team's problems. I personally would rather not trade up for a developmental QB no matter how talented. I was happy when they did draft Scherff as high as they took him, thinking this signaled a recommitment to building a dominant O-line. Didn't quite pan out that way, with predictable results.

I am on board to jump up for a HOF potential TE in Pitts. A TE who can line up wide or who draws a lot of attention with pre-snap movement can break blitzes and draw linebackers away from the interior. If you have a possession receiver who can turn short catches into breakaway threats then teams can't load up to stop your exterior speedsters. TE is the 2nd most complicated position in the game, being both lineman and eligible receiver at the same time. They are a decoy and a threat and a bodyguard all at once. The Air Coryell system thrives with a good pass catching TE who can be a threat in a number of different looks.

But maybe they think they are set at the position. Logan Thomas had a breakout year, and should only get better with Fitzpatrick who likes to target his TE. We picked up Sammis Reyes who will likely be a long term project if he pans out, but who is an intriguing talent. I want Fitzpatrick to have all the targets he needs, he had real success with Gesicki lining up as a big slot receiver. Still, it may be a stretch to think the team can trade up high enough to take Kyle Pitts.

[Ruzious]

Imagine if they got both Pitts and Julio Jones

and a quality RB.


Actually, sounds like Pitts will be gone by the 6th pick. Looking forward to seeing how Sammis Reyes develops.

[doclinkin]

Looking forward to seeing how Sammis Reyes develops.

Yeah the blocking aspect of the TE position will probably be the hardest to develop. But I can see him in motion or lined up as a giant receiver. The league has seen success with converted basketball players who turn to pass catching TEs. His physical bonafides are startling. That's a big athlete.

[Ruzious]

Looking forward to seeing how Sammis Reyes develops.

Yeah the blocking aspect of the TE position will probably be the hardest to develop. But I can see him in motion or lined up as a giant receiver. The league has seen success with converted basketball players who turn to pass catching TEs. His physical bonafides are startling. That's a big athlete.

And he's got such a unique great backstory coming from Chile to the US at 14 with a basketball scholarship before switching to football in 2020. 6'5 and 3/8ths, 260 lbs, runs a 4.65 40, 40 inch vertical, moved to the DC area and loved it, and signed with the Skins. He was delivering food working for DoorDash before he signed with Wash (might still be doing it?). https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/football-team/sammis-reyes-played-college-hoops-and-worked-doordash-next-nfl?cid=Yahoo&partner=ya4nbcs

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I think all 5 of those LBers (maybe not Parsons) could be there at 19 - and probably 2 will be there at 25 - making it easy for the Skins to trade down to 25 and still get a legit 1st round LBer that fills a need.

Btw, if the Skins trade up, it'll be for Justin Fields. They probably won't, because RR doesn't like to over-pay, but Fields is absurdly talented and appears to be very close buds with Chase Young.

[tontoz]

Any interest in Stanford's Davis Mills? 6'4" 225 ran a 4.66 40. Might be able to get him in the 2nd round.

Aside from finishing his Stanford degree, Mills’ primary focus since the end of the season was his pro day. It was his chance to showcase the array of difficult throws he can make while also addressing concerns about his injury history, mobility and athleticism.

The impressive throwing session in the pouring rain was only part of what made Mills’ pro day a massive success. He also ran the 40-yard dash in unofficial times of 4.58 and 4.66 seconds, better-than-expected times that had even his parents screaming with joy.

https://sports.yahoo.com/the-sixth-man-is-quarterback-davis-mills-the-sleeper-of-this-years-draft-150954516.html

[TGW]

Any interest in Stanford's Davis Mills? 6'4" 225 ran a 4.66 40. Might be able to get him in the 2nd round.

Aside from finishing his Stanford degree, Mills’ primary focus since the end of the season was his pro day. It was his chance to showcase the array of difficult throws he can make while also addressing concerns about his injury history, mobility and athleticism.

The impressive throwing session in the pouring rain was only part of what made Mills’ pro day a massive success. He also ran the 40-yard dash in unofficial times of 4.58 and 4.66 seconds, better-than-expected times that had even his parents screaming with joy.

https://sports.yahoo.com/the-sixth-man-is-quarterback-davis-mills-the-sleeper-of-this-years-draft-150954516.html

Second round is way too high. He's a Kirk Cousins type of athlete/arm. KC was taken in the fourth round.

[gambitx777]

If we take a QB at all I hope it's in the 4th or less


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[BearlyBallin]

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I think all 5 of those LBers (maybe not Parsons) could be there at 19 - and probably 2 will be there at 25 - making it easy for the Skins to trade down to 25 and still get a legit 1st round LBer that fills a need.

Btw, if the Skins trade up, it'll be for Justin Fields. They probably won't, because RR doesn't like to over-pay, but Fields is absurdly talented and appears to be very close buds with Chase Young.

I think Parsons & JOK may both be gone before we pick @19. Not sure about how the WFT feels about Collins 22 lb weight gain. Some think he’s bulked up to play OLB in a 3-4. Surratt has been projected to going in the 2-5 rounds. I’m hearing he needs more experience.

I like JOK but I think it’ll be Jamin Davis after a trade down. I’d love to see WFT get another pick.

Agreed about Fields being the QB target but I don’t think they trade up.

[BearlyBallin]

Any interest in Stanford's Davis Mills? 6'4" 225 ran a 4.66 40. Might be able to get him in the 2nd round.

Aside from finishing his Stanford degree, Mills’ primary focus since the end of the season was his pro day. It was his chance to showcase the array of difficult throws he can make while also addressing concerns about his injury history, mobility and athleticism.

The impressive throwing session in the pouring rain was only part of what made Mills’ pro day a massive success. He also ran the 40-yard dash in unofficial times of 4.58 and 4.66 seconds, better-than-expected times that had even his parents screaming with joy.

https://sports.yahoo.com/the-sixth-man-is-quarterback-davis-mills-the-sleeper-of-this-years-draft-150954516.html

Second round is way too high. He's a Kirk Cousins type of athlete/arm. KC was taken in the fourth round.

What do you think about Kyle Trask, QB Florida? Recently I’ve seen him mocked in the 2nd round. Just a few weeks ago a lot of people had him going in the 4th rd

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[BearlyBallin]

If we take a QB at all I hope it's in the 4th or less


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Would you take Jamie Newman, QB Wake Forest day 3 over Mills? He needs work, but if we can give him a year to learn, he could be the athletic QB the WFT has been looking for... Low risk /high reward type, but I’m not sure if it’s the style of the new regime to take a chance early in the 3rd day. Especially when there will be some nice RBs & WRs available in round 4&5.

[gambitx777]

It depends on who we take round 1 or two there are like 1 or two rb I would take with round one but I don't know if we should.

If we take a QB at all I hope it's in the 4th or less


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Would you take Jamie Newman, QB Wake Forest day 3 over Mills? He needs work, but if we can give him a year to learn, he could be the athletic QB the WFT has been looking for... Low risk /high reward type, but I’m not sure if it’s the style of the new regime to take a chance early in the 3rd day. Especially when there will be some nice RBs & WRs available in round 4&5.

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[BearlyBallin]

Ben Standig Final Mock Draft

1 Jaguars - Trevor Lawrence, QB, Clemson
2 Jets - Zach Wilson, QB, BYU
3 49ers - Mac Jones, QB, Alabama
4 Falcons - Kyle Pitts, TE, Florida
5 Bengals - Ja'Marr Chase, WR, LSU
6 Dolphins - Jaylen Waddle, WR, Alabama
7 Lions - Penei Sewell, OT, Oregon
8 Panthers - Justin Fields, QB, Ohio State
9 Broncos - Trey Lance, QB, North Dakota State
10 Cowboys - Patrick Surtain, CB, Alabama
11 Giants - Kwity Paye, DE, Michigan
12 Eagles - Jaycee Horn, CB, South Carolina
13 Chargers - Rashawn Slater, OL, Northwestern
14 Vikings - Alijah Vera-Tucker, G, USC
15 Patriots - Micah Parsons, LB, Penn State
16 Cardinals - DeVonta Smith, WR, Alabama
17 Raiders - Jamin Davis, ILB, Kentucky
18 Dolphins - Najee Harris, RB, Alabama
19 Washington FT - Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, LB, Notre Dame
20 Bears - Elijah Moore, WR, Mississippi
21 Colts - Christian Darrisaw, OT, Virginia Tech
22 Titans - Zaven Collins, LB, Tulsa
23 Jets - Jaelan Phillips, DE, Miami
24 Steelers - Teven Jenkins, OT, Oklahoma State
25 Jaguars - Jayson Oweh, DE, Penn State
26 Browns - Rashod Bateman, WR, Minnesota
27 Ravens - Christian Barmore, DT, Alabama
28 Saints - Tyson Campbell, CB, Georgia
29 Packers - Greg Newsome II, CB, Northwestern
30 Bills - Travis Etienne, RB, Clemson
31 Ravens - Azeez Ojulari, OLB, Georgia
32 Buccaneers - Joe Tryon, DE, Washington

If the WFT wants Fields they need to move up to #7.
I think I saw somewhere Detroit would want this years 1st & 3rd plus next years 1st & 2nd ?

Standigs has had some of his mock measure up as good or better then many the past few years.

[TGW]

Any interest in Stanford's Davis Mills? 6'4" 225 ran a 4.66 40. Might be able to get him in the 2nd round.



https://sports.yahoo.com/the-sixth-man-is-quarterback-davis-mills-the-sleeper-of-this-years-draft-150954516.html

Second round is way too high. He's a Kirk Cousins type of athlete/arm. KC was taken in the fourth round.

What do you think about Kyle Trask, QB Florida? Recently I’ve seen him mocked in the 2nd round. Just a few weeks ago a lot of people had him going in the 4th rd

Same deal for Trask....4th or 5th round talent. From what I've seen, RR likes big, strong, mobile QBs. I think they have a bunch of RPO plays they would like to run but they weren't able to because of the QB limitations. I think Trask and Jones are two quarterbacks they would avoid because of that. Trask also lacks arm strength.

Davis Mills is probably more suited as a RPO type of quarterback because of his athletic traits, but 2nd is way too high IMO. He just doesn't read defenses at a high level, and his production is in college is pedestrian at best. I would take him in the 4th because he has the physical traits and he has pretty solid fundamentals and arm talent. He's a good mold of clay to work with.

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If we take a QB at all I hope it's in the 4th or less


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Would you take Jamie Newman, QB Wake Forest day 3 over Mills? He needs work, but if we can give him a year to learn, he could be the athletic QB the WFT has been looking for... Low risk /high reward type, but I’m not sure if it’s the style of the new regime to take a chance early in the 3rd day. Especially when there will be some nice RBs & WRs available in round 4&5.

Newman has great physical characteristics, but it was a mistake for him to sit out a year. He looked pretty awful in the Senior Bowl--took a bunch of sacks and threw several inaccurate passes. He also isn't a natural, instinctive runner. Newman probably has an amazing 40 time, but he looks indecisive when he runs. He looks like a 2-3 year project.

I would definitely take Mills over Newman, as Mills processes faster.