[Camelo Thread Part 7]

[knicks9784]

I am curious if part of the reason that they won't talk to us is that Donnie has already said publicly that he won't gut the roster for anyone. If you are Denver and you hear that, what is there to discuss with the Knicks? The offer we have will be there on February 24th and they are not going to look at it, unless Melo forces them to do it. Time to look for a different sky is falling gif.

remember this : http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/ ... id=5705466

this started coming out after the nets deal fell apart for the 2nd? time i think. anyway point is once this dies down, the knicks will start being linked to melo again. there's been no evidence that the nuggets arent at least listening to the knicks and its obvious nobody has idea what the nugs are thinking cause everyone reported the nuggets agreed to this current nets deal and then the nugs come out and say they never agreed to anything. so clearly most writers have no direct insight into the nuggets

[GONYK]

Who do you think is leaking this info? Denver or NJ?

[BLACKFEET 2010]

stevekylerNBA Steve Kyler
New Jersey seems more willing to deal than Denver as of this morning... Nuggets still say nothing is close.

I expect a deadline today. And when Jersey bows out......it gets interesting. Cmon Melo...the Mecca awaits you.

[knicks9784]

Who do you think is leaking this info? Denver or NJ?

agents

[NBA Fan 1234]

Who do you think is leaking this info? Denver or NJ?

Denver would make the most sense --> trying to get the Godfather to make a move to get Melo; a reflex deal.

[knicks742]

The part that makes no sense to me, is the caving in now. I would not be surprised if he caved in on February 23/24 if there is no hope to getting to the Knicks with an extension but why January 10th? There is another full month of waiting and figuring out if he can get to the Knicks. Doesn't make any sense.

Edit: I meant IF he indeed caved in.

[AllanHoustonFan]

The part that makes no sense to me, is the caving in now. I would not be surprised if he caved in on February 23/24 if there is no hope to getting to the Knicks with an extension but why January 10th? There is another full month of waiting and figuring out if he can get to the Knicks. Doesn't make any sense.

Edit: I meant IF he indeed caved in.

I agree and what is even weirder is Melo hasn't used his leverage at all...why isn't he going to Denvers F/O and making trade demands?

[NBA Fan 1234]

The part that makes no sense to me, is the caving in now. I would not be surprised if he caved in on February 23/24 if there is no hope to getting to the Knicks with an extension but why January 10th? There is another full month of waiting and figuring out if he can get to the Knicks. Doesn't make any sense.

Edit: I meant IF he indeed caved in.

That's IF he wants to play with another team this season. He can still be traded on June 30th (before the CBA expires) without losing the extension.

I personally think he does not cave...never thought he was going to cave, and definitely not changing my view now amidst all of the trade rumors. Every report has a new obstacle for the trade - Petro's deal, Denver wanting more, Denver wanting to get rid of Harrington too, and now Melo pretty much nixed the trade.

If Melo has indeed nixed the trade, again, that means he most likely HAS said that he will only sign the extension with ________.

[AllanHoustonFan]

The part that makes no sense to me, is the caving in now. I would not be surprised if he caved in on February 23/24 if there is no hope to getting to the Knicks with an extension but why January 10th? There is another full month of waiting and figuring out if he can get to the Knicks. Doesn't make any sense.

Edit: I meant IF he indeed caved in.

That's IF he wants to play with another team this season. He can still be traded on June 30th (before the CBA expires) without losing the extension.

I personally think he does not cave...never thought he was going to cave, and definitely not changing my view now amidst all of the trade rumors. Every report has a new obstacle for the trade - Petro's deal, Denver wanting more, Denver wanting to get rid of Harrington too, and now Melo pretty much nixed the trade.

If Melo has indeed nixed the trade, again, that means he most likely HAS said that he will only sign the extension with ________.

Where did you read he nixed the trade?

[BBALLER4FR]

This smells like Anthony has backed himself into a corner by signing with CAA. Seems to me like he signed with them to get the most $$$ because of their ties with big names (LeBron, Wade, Bosh, CP3, WWW, Leon Rose all affiliated). Now that they are proving to be more like a strong arming, organized crime outfit allegedly serving the needs of keeping LeBron on top (by aligning LBJ/Wade/Bosh) while positioning Anthony to sit in limbo on a 10 win team until they can finagle Paul in a few years, Carmelo is trying his best to put his own interest ahead of the high powered machine CAA. Think about this:

He is allowing Leon Rose (CAA), to scramble for a deal to a team he doesn't want to go to (Nets), to appease the team Melo is quickly trying to distance himself from (Nuggets), by getting Rip Hamilton (another Rose client) to join his as a place holder in purgatory, until Rose can persuade Chris Paul (CAA) to join him even though Paul is not a FA for a few years.

If Melo goes he has no one to blame but himself for A) his decision to sign with CAA and B) his failure to grow a backbone when it was clear that no party has his best interest at hand.

[The Rebel]

Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
Holdup to NJ-Den-Det trade is that Den wants NJ to take Al Harrington. NJ doesn't want to b/c Al has 4 yrs, $28 mill left on deal.


http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?STO ... um=twitter

There is a real sense of urgency from the Leon Rose side, according to sources in the know on the situation. If Rose can't deliver a deal, he may lose Anthony to a rival agent as Anthony's camp is growing annoyed with how this has played out.

Rose has a sense of urgency to get the deal with the Nets done? How does that back the idea that Melo is the one killing the deal?

[knicks9784]

The part that makes no sense to me, is the caving in now. I would not be surprised if he caved in on February 23/24 if there is no hope to getting to the Knicks with an extension but why January 10th? There is another full month of waiting and figuring out if he can get to the Knicks. Doesn't make any sense.

Edit: I meant IF he indeed caved in.

That's IF he wants to play with another team this season. He can still be traded on June 30th (before the CBA expires) without losing the extension.

I personally think he does not cave...never thought he was going to cave, and definitely not changing my view now amidst all of the trade rumors. Every report has a new obstacle for the trade - Petro's deal, Denver wanting more, Denver wanting to get rid of Harrington too, and now Melo pretty much nixed the trade.

If Melo has indeed nixed the trade, again, that means he most likely HAS said that he will only sign the extension with ________.

Where did you read he nixed the trade?

he's prob referring to this : http://www.theknicksblog.com/2011/01/10 ... own-words/

he doesnt actually nix the trade but says he doesnt think it will go down, and this wasnt his last game as a nugget

[NBA Fan 1234]

Where did you read he nixed the trade?

David Aldridge, one of the most credible reporters in the NBA, said that Melo was not sold on the Nets.

There was this twitter update as well:

christomasson
I asked Melo if he believed he would be traded this week. he said, "no.''

Melo also said, in reference to the Nets trade:

"I don't see that happening."

He also said he does not think last night's game was his last as a member of the Nuggets.

[MKCATL]

This whole thing ia a big cluster F, Players, agents, and GM's must hate social media at a time like this.

[FieldsMedal]

Okay, IF the Nets have to take back Harrington.

Here are the Nets in 2012-2103

'Melo (approximately) $20m
Hamilton $12.5 (only $9m guaranteed, which would require his release)
Lopez (cap hold) $9.2m
Harrington $6.9m
Outaw $7m
Farmer $4.3m

$59.9m

And that's only 6 players.

If the Nets trade Favors, they'd presumably have to sign Humphries (or someone resembling a rounding frontcourt player) in the offseason.

Even if they release Hamilton to save $3.5m, unless they can somehow unload Harrington and Outlaw for nothing back, they won't be close to having the cap room to sign Chris Paul.

Maybe they think they can traded Billups (team option picked up, then expiring next season) for Paul at the 2011-2012 deadline, but whose going with him, Lopez?

[AllanHoustonFan]

http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketbal ... -1.2598826

So far, he hasn't, but it shouldn't be long now before we find out. One thing I can tell you is despite suggestions elsewhere that Amar'e Stoudemire doesn't care either way, let me assure you that people close to him have told me he is very much interested in teaming up with Carmelo in New York.

Now can we stop believing this crap from the Daily News that Amar'e doesn't wanna play with Melo.

[knicks742]

http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/the-knicks-fix-1.812055/melopalooza-reaches-ludicrous-speed-1.2598826

So far, he hasn't, but it shouldn't be long now before we find out. One thing I can tell you is despite suggestions elsewhere that Amar'e Stoudemire doesn't care either way, let me assure you that people close to him have told me he is very much interested in teaming up with Carmelo in New York.

Now can we stop believing this crap from the Daily News that Amar'e doesn't wanna play with Melo.

I don't think anyone believes that Amar'e would be so dense as to not want a close friend and fellow superstar to join him.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

Who do you think is leaking this info? Denver or NJ?

I think both. Denver wants us to get desperate and NJ wants relevance (that and to irk us in the process). Jersey is playing with house money. If they lose out on Melo, it won't be for lack of effort.
They probably think they are creating excitement for their fans. Instead they are shaking the collective confidence of their young, directionless roster and stirring an already apathetic fanbase. From my own personal barometer, Nets fans do not like this deal. They don't mind sticking it us, we know, but there doesn't seem to be any real enthusiasm being stirred up by the Melo-to-NJ talk. We are far more worked up (but not as desperate) as they are about all this. But Billy King can survive another day saying he tried and had a deal in place, Melo just wasn't sold. I don't think Proky understands the NBA as well as some assumed he would/does, at least the mechanics and dynamics of today's NBA. But again, I could take a nap only to awaken to 'Melo is a Net", busting my bubble if only for a second. I'm sure the Nets like the fact that someone is talking about them.

Denver is just trying to win the press conference (as I think Hahn or Tommy Dee said). If Melo goes to the Nets they can say he wanted out and we gave him his wish. They will be the victims in this scenario, Melo the money-lovin' villain. They are also trying to make sure Donnie sees that they are moving their star for less rotation-ready young talent than we have (despite reports) to offer (surely a Wilson/Fields/filler package gets us to the top of the conversation, especially with Melo indicating he's amenable to signing here and only here if you listen to some). They are underestimating Donnie. Not saying "Melo is ours', not at all but Donnie won't be moved to deal because of these on-again-off-again (rumored) deals with our tri-state rival. They just get us amped up. Incarcerated Bob musta been on Uriji's payroll from the eve of Training Camp. Good thing none of us is GM. Denver is probably at the head of these leaks (with CAA) but they are looking more and more like Keystone Cops as time goes on.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketbal ... -1.2598826

But he, like the entire Knicks organization, doesn't want it to come at a cost that would ravage a roster that Amar'e believes has great potential.
"Amar'e never said as has been reported that he does not want Carmelo," a person close to Stoudemire said last night. "He thinks he would be great in New York . . . [Carmelo] just has to be patient and wait it out."

See? Now that's how you leak stuff, baby. We want you here Melo. Don't buy the hype.
Shoutout to the Dolan family for this one.

[moocow007]

Absolutely this last bit of nonsense about Amare not wanting Melo is coming from Prokhorov. Its a common tactic to get someone who believes that he has a better option to go with you...discredit you competition. Mr Blueprint for Greatness knows full well how to use it. Problem is I dont think hes used to others being able to do the same.