Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II

[WuTang_CMB]

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I said Bilal was better days ago, now a lot of draft twitter is all over it. Rupert isn’t anything special. Coulibaly definitely has a real shot at being the better player long term.

Both going to take a few years to develop. Need these guys in for workouts to see how they line up

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[Brinbe]

Big day for prospect watching.

[BoyzNTheHood]

I’ve been told I’m crazy, but how insanely fun would it be to watch Terquavion Smith and Jett Howard on the same team. It would probably be better from afar, but their shot selection is ridiculously ridiculous. But fun! Always fun!

[Dalek]

Is Kobe Bufkin as good a prospect as Jett?

I went into the draft watching Howard film but then kept noticing their off guard Bufkin takeover games. Different roles, but I think the biggest difference is the extra year at Michigan.

Bufkin had a minor role last year until he blew up this season. But you do notice when Howard is out Bufkin steps up even more and they typically win. I really don't see any flaws with Bufkin. He's a really good player and might be capable as a Jordan Poole type.

I just think Howard is basically a 6'8 two guard with all the skills you need, except a little seasoning. I'd draft him first without question.

[Ell Curry]

Is Kobe Bufkin as good a prospect as Jett?

I went into the draft watching Howard film but then kept noticing their off guard Bufkin takeover games. Different roles, but I think the biggest difference is the extra year at Michigan.

Bufkin had a minor role last year until he blew up this season. But you do notice when Howard is out Bufkin steps up even more and they typically win. I really don't see any flaws with Bufkin. He's a really good player and might be capable as a Jordan Poole type.

I just think Howard is basically a 6'8 two guard with all the skills you need, except a little seasoning. I'd draft him first without question.

Bufkin high floor, lower ceiling. He was really young last year as a freshman, so struggling wasn't surprising. As you say, well rounded game without an obvious flaw, though he might not have a thing he does at a high enough level, and slightly below average size for an NBA 2 guard.

If Jett gets stronger (so he can finish inside) and learns basic defensive fundamentals (which 19 years old often don't have) then yeah he could be a nice offensive player with his length, shooting and an okay bag, but I think there's a good chance he busts. He's much better than Caleb Houstan was offensively last year, but Bufkin is the same age and just seems like a guy who goes 35th and has a 10 year NBA career as a bench 2-guard.

On the other hand, I thought Stauskas would not only hit be a top 10 shooter from 3 in the entire league, but also able to run a pick and roll okay for a 2 guard since he started to do that nicely as a sophomore. The Big 10 perimeter players might just be bad.

With Poole and Wagner, you could see that they were NBA talents, since Poole could get separation and is very skilled and Wagner just did pretty much everything the way a boring 30 year old average NBA starting SF should, but as a sophomore, and had fairly special length and footwork (should have won conference DPOY but didn't block shots and voting for that trophy is bad), just didn't have the confidence or strength to just take over games, and was also getting used to playing non-European basketball.

I like how Bufkin reads the game, and he can shoot and is fairly athletic and works hard on D. I think he's better than the guys we've looked at as backup 2 guards lately (Armoni Brooks, Ron Harper Jr, David Johnson) but it's gonna be tough for him to get to good rotation player I think, unless he really turns into a deadeye shooter.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Jett Howard's ceiling is a short bench stint before being out of the league in a number of years.

Most overhyped prospect I've seen in a while.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Brandon Miller shooting 35.8% from the field vs. ranked teams put him on the DND list just like Sasser

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

I could be totally crazy but I think the Texas A&M fans were chanting "LOCK HIM UP" at Brandon Miller

[Kevin Willis]

Keyonte George is really inconsistent. Brandon Miller had a not so good game but he was due but George has these stinkers regularly.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Anthony Black looks like trash. Hot take: Ricky Council might legitimately have a better chance than him or Smith at hanging in the NBA.

Keyontae Johnson looks like he's gonna be in the NBA for a long long time. Dude is an incredible shooter and finisher, he can score in a variety of ways with supreme efficiency. I think at this point it's undeniable that he is a 1st round pick. Has a number of weaknesses but very few people in this draft can score it as efficiently as he can at all 3 levels which is a prerequisite for being an elite player. You work on the ball protection issues/passing decisions later. Not really a great dribble penetration player but his touch around the basket is elite any time he is operating there on drives and cuts.

[DrCoach]

Anthony Black looks like trash. Hot take: Ricky Council might legitimately have a better chance than him or Smith at hanging in the NBA.

Keyontae Johnson looks like he's gonna be in the NBA for a long long time. Dude is an incredible shooter and finisher, he can score in a variety of ways with supreme efficiency. I think at this point it's undeniable that he is a 1st round pick. Has a number of weaknesses but very few people in this draft can score it as efficiently as he can at all 3 levels which is a prerequisite for being an elite player. You work on the ball protection issues/passing decisions later. Not really a great dribble penetration player but his touch around the basket is elite any time he is operating there on drives and cuts.

Black looks good to me. Looks like another Scottie type player

[ItsDanger]

Black just has to refine his shooting and finishes, has the intangibles, gets to the line a lot.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Black just has to refine his shooting and finishes, has the intangibles, gets to the line a lot.

He doesn't have good touch. That's something you either have or you don't. The fact he can't shoot AND doesn't have good touch is a massive red flag.

He gets blown by on defense way too often as well. Can't see him hanging with NBA guards.

He has looked pretty bad today vs. Kentucky in a big big game.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Anthony Black looks like trash. Hot take: Ricky Council might legitimately have a better chance than him or Smith at hanging in the NBA.

Keyontae Johnson looks like he's gonna be in the NBA for a long long time. Dude is an incredible shooter and finisher, he can score in a variety of ways with supreme efficiency. I think at this point it's undeniable that he is a 1st round pick. Has a number of weaknesses but very few people in this draft can score it as efficiently as he can at all 3 levels which is a prerequisite for being an elite player. You work on the ball protection issues/passing decisions later. Not really a great dribble penetration player but his touch around the basket is elite any time he is operating there on drives and cuts.

Horrible hot take. Black looks good. Just because someone isn’t scoring 20+ doesn’t mean they aren’t doing a ton more. As Raptors fans we saw years of slander for Lowry who wasn’t a box score darling but made so many winning plays

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Anthony Black looks like trash. Hot take: Ricky Council might legitimately have a better chance than him or Smith at hanging in the NBA.

Keyontae Johnson looks like he's gonna be in the NBA for a long long time. Dude is an incredible shooter and finisher, he can score in a variety of ways with supreme efficiency. I think at this point it's undeniable that he is a 1st round pick. Has a number of weaknesses but very few people in this draft can score it as efficiently as he can at all 3 levels which is a prerequisite for being an elite player. You work on the ball protection issues/passing decisions later. Not really a great dribble penetration player but his touch around the basket is elite any time he is operating there on drives and cuts.

Horrible hot take. Black looks good. Just because someone isn’t scoring 20+ doesn’t mean they aren’t doing a ton more. As Raptors fans we saw years of slander for Lowry who wasn’t a box score darling but made so many winning plays

Are you even watching the game right now, or do you just watch highlight reels?

[UnbelievablyRAW]

What am I missing on Colby Jones? One of the few guards in the draft with high efficiency and hes a 3 level scorer at 6'6. Why is this dude mocked mad low?

Edit: he's gonna be 21 at draft day. Would be a nice pickup for the bench as a scorer if we end up with more picks

[Yallbecrazy]

Things that are great about Anthony Black:
free throw rate
Things that are bad about Anthony Black:
turnovers
shooting
Things that are decent about Anthony Black:
pretty much everything else.

[Mark_83]

What am I missing on Colby Jones? One of the few guards in the draft with high efficiency and hes a 3 level scorer at 6'6. Why is this dude mocked mad low?

Edit: he's gonna be 21 at draft day. Would be a nice pickup for the bench as a scorer if we end up with more picks

He reminds me of Brogdon. He's going to be a solid pro, if the shot improvements carry over.

[Mark_83]

We're currently picking 13th and falling. Likely to pick between 15-20.

That means we're looking at the likes of Wallace, Hendricks, Jones, Murray, Whitehead, Rupert, Hawkins, Coulibaly, JHS, Lewis, Cissoko, Lively, Ware.