2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat (Series tied 1-1)

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Who wins?

Knicks in 4
8
3%
Knicks in 5
17
6%
Knicks in 6
74
25%
Knicks in 7
51
17%
Heat in 4
9
3%
Heat in 5
27
9%
Heat in 6
95
31%
Heat in 7
21
7%
 
Total votes: 302

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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#641 » by cgf » Sat Apr 29, 2023 8:06 pm

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KingDavid wrote:Was it the same case against Cleveland? They left shooters open?


Oh yeah. We showed no respect to their shooters other than Mitchell, Garland, and LeVert. Guys like Okoro, Mobley, & Rubio were getting left wide open and encouraged to shoot.

Just as I expected with Thibs. So if our roleplayers hit open shots, I like our chances. They've been uncharacteristically on point last round. But based on the reg season, ehhh...


I'm doubtful that Thibs will have us cheating off shooters as much against a team who just shot 47% from 3 in round 1, as he did against the Cavs. He left their bad shooters open, but the same wasn't true of the Cavs that could reliably hit a shot...and he's adapted really well for us.

Jimmy's so good that if we try to slow him down we'll have to start cheating somewhere, which will leave someone open and thibs will have to figure out the right balance of making jimmy work / sticking to shooters, but I trust Thibs to go with what's working instead of just sticking to what we had done in the RS.
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Post#642 » by Zenzibar » Sat Apr 29, 2023 8:14 pm

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Yeah, I think we'll have to pick between focusing on Jimmy and focusing on your shooters; especially if point-Bam forces us to play Hartenstein more than Robinson. I think our best bet is probably to start with your shooters and let Jimmy be Jimmy until he forces us to start throwing extra attention his way...hoping that we'll have disrupted your shooters' rhythm enough for them not to murder us when we start cheating towards Jimmy.

And it's certainly a tall order...but I won't be surprised by any results in this series, from Knicks in 5, to Heat in 5; even a sweep either way wouldn't completely shock me. I'm expecting great intensity and tough-fought games while hoping it goes 6 or 7...but a few factors going this way or that could leave us with 5 close games & a 4-1 series result (in either direction).

Some of our trollier posters have definitely been over-the-top with their optimism. But that happens with any big enough fanbase; especially with folks who have draped themselves in the nostalgia of the old rivalry...read: can't take bNo too seriously & expect to stay sane :lol:


STFU already with the criticizing of NY posters.

What are you a fkn diplomat? :noway:


lol tell me bNo isn't ridiculous and try to keep a straight face. We have a lot of amazing fans...but we also have a lot of **** that take things too far. It's a common side-effect of having such a huge fanbase.

Not a diplomat lol, just wish our board weren't so annoyingly petty & senselessly aggro sometimes. This is a hugely passionate fanbase and there are a lot of knowledgeable knicks fans that it's nice to talk about basketball with, but the idiotic d*** measuring gets too much for me :dontknow:


:lol: We definitely have some irritant posters. They even relish being so :lol:
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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#643 » by Zenzibar » Sat Apr 29, 2023 8:23 pm

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Oh yeah. We showed no respect to their shooters other than Mitchell, Garland, and LeVert. Guys like Okoro, Mobley, & Rubio were getting left wide open and encouraged to shoot.

Just as I expected with Thibs. So if our roleplayers hit open shots, I like our chances. They've been uncharacteristically on point last round. But based on the reg season, ehhh...


I'm doubtful that Thibs will have us cheating off shooters as much against a team who just shot 47% from 3 in round 1, as he did against the Cavs. He left their bad shooters open, but the same wasn't true of the Cavs that could reliably hit a shot...and he's adapted really well for us.

Jimmy's so good that if we try to slow him down we'll have to start cheating somewhere, which will leave someone open and thibs will have to figure out the right balance of making jimmy work / sticking to shooters, but I trust Thibs to go with what's working instead of just sticking to what we had done in the RS.


It's no merely Cavs misses, look at the contests from deep. Our switching defense was stellar and gave the Cavs 2 All-Stars more than they could consistently handle. Thibs has this young and talented NY squad on a string defensively. Miami is going to hit some but Hero's lost has taken away a huge 3 pt option for the Heat.

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We have to limit any of Love's contributions, control the boards and that our relentless wing depth wear down the Heats wings.
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Post#644 » by heatlejuice » Sat Apr 29, 2023 8:33 pm

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STFU already with the criticizing of NY posters.

What are you a fkn diplomat? :noway:


lol tell me bNo isn't ridiculous and try to keep a straight face. We have a lot of amazing fans...but we also have a lot of **** that take things too far. It's a common side-effect of having such a huge fanbase.

Not a diplomat lol, just wish our board weren't so annoyingly petty & senselessly aggro sometimes. This is a hugely passionate fanbase and there are a lot of knowledgeable knicks fans that it's nice to talk about basketball with, but the idiotic d*** measuring gets too much for me :dontknow:


:lol: We definitely have some irritant posters. They even relish being so :lol:


It really is something else lol. I respect the Knicks, but you guys haven't been relevant for over 20 years. A little humbleness will go a long way. Gotta prove it before talking all that smack
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Post#645 » by KnixtapeH20 » Sat Apr 29, 2023 8:34 pm

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I think he plays but if not Obi is more than up to the challenge. He NEVER been afraid of the moment. Cleveland learned that the hard way when he put up 12 points in a matter of minutes :nod:
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Post#646 » by Zenzibar » Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:01 pm

heatlejuice wrote:
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cgf wrote:
lol tell me bNo isn't ridiculous and try to keep a straight face. We have a lot of amazing fans...but we also have a lot of **** that take things too far. It's a common side-effect of having such a huge fanbase.

Not a diplomat lol, just wish our board weren't so annoyingly petty & senselessly aggro sometimes. This is a hugely passionate fanbase and there are a lot of knowledgeable knicks fans that it's nice to talk about basketball with, but the idiotic d*** measuring gets too much for me :dontknow:


:lol: We definitely have some irritant posters. They even relish being so :lol:


It really is something else lol. I respect the Knicks, but you guys haven't been relevant for over 20 years. A little humbleness will go a long way. Gotta prove it before talking all that smack


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Post#647 » by Letsgokings » Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:43 pm

Is this Knicks Team really all that good? I haven't heard of a lot of there players lol
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Post#648 » by fishfuego. » Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:33 pm

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did he during the regular season? yea, we won that too, u really think thibs is bud? lmao knicks in 5

Heat in 4 , maybe they threw you a bone though and will be in 5


u do know miami is NY south right? and u a bk fan, u should know when the knicks fans take over barclays :lol: :lol:


No. NY and Miami have absolutely nothing in common. Miami is Latin America with a touch of Europe and the Caribbean, while NY is pure Northeast America with some Italian/Irish/African/Jewish traditions. Generations from NY transplants to South Florida have actually adapted their ways to a more local and tropical Cuban/Hispanic ways.
Many of those are died hard Heat fans.
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Post#649 » by DaGawd » Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:40 pm

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ArksNetsSince99 wrote: Heat in 4 , maybe they threw you a bone though and will be in 5


u do know miami is NY south right? and u a bk fan, u should know when the knicks fans take over barclays :lol: :lol:


No. NY and Miami have absolutely nothing in common. Miami is Latin America with a touch of Europe and the Caribbean, while NY is pure Northeast America with some Italian/Irish/African/Jewish traditions. Generations from NY transplants to South Florida have actually adapted their ways to a more local and tropical Cuban/Hispanic ways.
Many of those are died hard Heat fans.

there are TONS of ny transplants in miami is what he meant. really everywhere in the south for that matter
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Post#650 » by fishfuego. » Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:46 pm

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u do know miami is NY south right? and u a bk fan, u should know when the knicks fans take over barclays :lol: :lol:


No. NY and Miami have absolutely nothing in common. Miami is Latin America with a touch of Europe and the Caribbean, while NY is pure Northeast America with some Italian/Irish/African/Jewish traditions. Generations from NY transplants to South Florida have actually adapted their ways to a more local and tropical Cuban/Hispanic ways.
Many of those are died hard Heat fans.

there are TONS of ny transplants in miami is what he meant. really everywhere in the south for that matter

Well yes, just like there are tons of transplant to NY from all over the World. But as far as the 2 cities being similar, they are as far off culturally as any other American city, and that was my point.
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Post#651 » by DaGawd » Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:47 pm

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No. NY and Miami have absolutely nothing in common. Miami is Latin America with a touch of Europe and the Caribbean, while NY is pure Northeast America with some Italian/Irish/African/Jewish traditions. Generations from NY transplants to South Florida have actually adapted their ways to a more local and tropical Cuban/Hispanic ways.
Many of those are died hard Heat fans.

there are TONS of ny transplants in miami is what he meant. really everywhere in the south for that matter

Well yes, just like there are tons of transplant to NY from all over the World. But as far as the 2 cities being similar, they are as far off culturally as any other American city, and that was my point.

got you yeah he wasn’t tryna say they were similar at all.. just that there are usually a ton of knick fans at heat games usually whenever the knicks play miami in miami
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Post#652 » by fishfuego. » Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:53 pm

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DaGawd wrote:there are TONS of ny transplants in miami is what he meant. really everywhere in the south for that matter

Well yes, just like there are tons of transplant to NY from all over the World. But as far as the 2 cities being similar, they are as far off culturally as any other American city, and that was my point.

got you yeah he wasn’t tryna say they were similar at all.. just that there are usually a ton of knick fans at heat games usually whenever the knicks play miami in miami

15 yeas ago I would have agreed with you, but it’s no longer the case. If you noticed the amount of Heat fans attending Knicks games in NY was huge. The Heat has a huge fallowing nation wide due to the success of the team. Many of those NY transplants children are now Heat fans due to such success, not Knicks fans.
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Post#653 » by DaGawd » Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:56 pm

fishfuego. wrote:
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fishfuego. wrote:Well yes, just like there are tons of transplant to NY from all over the World. But as far as the 2 cities being similar, they are as far off culturally as any other American city, and that was my point.

got you yeah he wasn’t tryna say they were similar at all.. just that there are usually a ton of knick fans at heat games usually whenever the knicks play miami in miami

15 yeas ago I would have agreed with you, but it’s no longer the case. If you noticed the amount of Heat fans attending Knicks games in NY was huge. The Heat has a huge fallowing nation wide due to the success of the team. Many of those NY transplants children are now Heat fans due to such success, not Knicks fans.

ehhh.. i was in miami 2 years ago during the covid szn and def noticed about a 50/50 split in terms of knicks to heat fan ratio.. heck even in the battles this szn where the knicks won or the game was competitive the knicks contingent is always noticeable
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Post#654 » by fishfuego. » Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:03 pm

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DaGawd wrote:got you yeah he wasn’t tryna say they were similar at all.. just that there are usually a ton of knick fans at heat games usually whenever the knicks play miami in miami

15 yeas ago I would have agreed with you, but it’s no longer the case. If you noticed the amount of Heat fans attending Knicks games in NY was huge. The Heat has a huge fallowing nation wide due to the success of the team. Many of those NY transplants children are now Heat fans due to such success, not Knicks fans.

ehhh.. i was in miami 2 years ago during the covid szn and def noticed about a 50/50 split in terms of knicks to heat fan ratio.. heck even in the battles this szn where the knicks won or the game was competitive the knicks contingent is always noticeable

Maybe during the covid season due to the less restrictive rules where many NYers were traveling down south. But did you also notice the resent amount of Heat fans in NY? That was not the case 15/20 years ago.
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Post#655 » by DaGawd » Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:05 pm

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fishfuego. wrote:15 yeas ago I would have agreed with you, but it’s no longer the case. If you noticed the amount of Heat fans attending Knicks games in NY was huge. The Heat has a huge fallowing nation wide due to the success of the team. Many of those NY transplants children are now Heat fans due to such success, not Knicks fans.

ehhh.. i was in miami 2 years ago during the covid szn and def noticed about a 50/50 split in terms of knicks to heat fan ratio.. heck even in the battles this szn where the knicks won or the game was competitive the knicks contingent is always noticeable

Maybe during the covid season due to the less restrictive rules where many NYers were traveling down south. But did you also notice the resent amount of Heat fans in NY? That was not the case 15/20 years ago.

def have. hell i’ve seem more of most somewhat large cities have a solid showing in ny more recently. toronto, boston, philly etc.
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Post#656 » by fishfuego. » Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:16 pm

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DaGawd wrote:ehhh.. i was in miami 2 years ago during the covid szn and def noticed about a 50/50 split in terms of knicks to heat fan ratio.. heck even in the battles this szn where the knicks won or the game was competitive the knicks contingent is always noticeable

Maybe during the covid season due to the less restrictive rules where many NYers were traveling down south. But did you also notice the resent amount of Heat fans in NY? That was not the case 15/20 years ago.

def have. hell i’ve seem more of most somewhat large cities have a solid showing in ny more recently. toronto, boston, philly etc.

Interesting. I think it’s due to the lack of Knicks success and disappointments, but a championship could do wonders. Hopefully not this year :wink: :wink:
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Post#657 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:38 pm

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fishfuego. wrote:Well yes, just like there are tons of transplant to NY from all over the World. But as far as the 2 cities being similar, they are as far off culturally as any other American city, and that was my point.

got you yeah he wasn’t tryna say they were similar at all.. just that there are usually a ton of knick fans at heat games usually whenever the knicks play miami in miami

15 yeas ago I would have agreed with you, but it’s no longer the case. If you noticed the amount of Heat fans attending Knicks games in NY was huge. The Heat has a huge fallowing nation wide due to the success of the team. Many of those NY transplants children are now Heat fans due to such success, not Knicks fans.

Its def still the case. I go to knicks games in Miami every year and its FLOODED with knicks fans. i was even at the one not too long ago where Randle hit the game winner. that arena was packed with knicks fans. its like that every year.
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Post#658 » by 3ballbomber » Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:45 am

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Post#659 » by 3ballbomber » Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:57 am

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Post#660 » by The KnicksFix » Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:57 am

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No. NY and Miami have absolutely nothing in common. Miami is Latin America with a touch of Europe and the Caribbean, while NY is pure Northeast America with some Italian/Irish/African/Jewish traditions. Generations from NY transplants to South Florida have actually adapted their ways to a more local and tropical Cuban/Hispanic ways.
Many of those are died hard Heat fans.

there are TONS of ny transplants in miami is what he meant. really everywhere in the south for that matter

Well yes, just like there are tons of transplant to NY from all over the World. But as far as the 2 cities being similar, they are as far off culturally as any other American city, and that was my point.


Actually, don’t get it twisted. I’m West Indian/ Caribbean and NY is the home to that. You think Miami has the Caribbean?? Bro NY has the largest population of Guyanese. TrinidadIan and Jamaicans. Take a gander into crown heights in Brooklyn or ozone park in queens. WE have the highest population of Caribbeans/ West Indians/ East Indians. Yea Miami has latin America but NY has LITERALLY EVERYTHING ELSE.

And don’t fool yourself, tons of New Yorkers have transplanted to Miami, where do you think THOSE Caribbeans in Miami came from? Queens is the most diverse city/ borough in THE WORLD. To say NY is pure Northeast America just proves you don’t know New Yawkkk.

Oh and the guy that built your squad? Guess what city Pat the rat transplanted from?

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