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KlicKlac wrote:I'm so excited now for Sunday's game. Cav's game might have been a gamechanger for LeVert. Hopefully minutes restrictions is gone
antique0o0 wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:antique0o0 wrote:LeVert plays 2 or 3. If he bulks up in the future, he'll be at the 3 more. He's not a one way shooter. Offensively, he can do a lot. Defensively, he's solid.
RHJ's natural position is 3. He won't be able to survive at 4.
I do see the value of a defensive stopper. I like defensive players who are offensively functional. RHJ isn't functional offensively, and that's why Atkinson benched him and put him at 4 for a couple of minutes each game.
If Atkinson decided to give some RHJ's minutes to LeVert, I will not be surprised.
RHJ was not benched, and in fact outside of last game where he was coming off of an injury, his play has ticked upward. Please use intellectually honest arguments if you're going to try to discredit players.
By bench, I mean Atkinson moved him to the bench. At the beginning of this season, he was starting.
I didn't mean DNP. He was never DNP. Although, there were times I wished Atkinson didn't play him at all. Another day, a fan argued with me that RHJ will be back at the starting lineup soon...
I have no agenda against RHJ. I think what he did on the court didn't earned him those opportunities. The Nets have 4 wing players, all of them need minutes,but nobody can give them good amount of time at the same time. LeVert showed what he can do with limited minutes. RHJ didn't. Why not give those opportunities to LeVert?
shakendfries wrote:antique0o0 wrote:shakendfries wrote:
...LeVert is a 2 who played the 1 in college. He doesn't have the strength or skill to defend the 3.
Rondae is a 3 who can switch 1-4 and generally hold his own. He's not gonna stop Aldridge or Milsap in the paint for 48 minutes, but will perform pretty well against them outside the paint.
Tony Allen isn't functional offensively.
Igoudolla isn't functional offensively.
Dennis Rodman wasn't functional offensively.
Bruce Bowen wasn't functional offensively.
3/4 are future HOFers and all had 10+ year successful NBA careers.
Why? It's a lot tougher to find players with elite defensive skill than it is to find one way offensive players. Players who aspire to fit the Korver mold are good to have, but there's a reason there's at least one one way offensive player called up from the D-League each season.
Firstly, it's shortsighted for you to be outraged about the shortcomings of a player in their first few seasons if you refuse to acknowledge their progress or development along the way. Secondly, it's unfair for you to paint one player in a negative light for being one way defensively, if you're not calling out the a player who plays more minutes, is a lot older & even considered a professional basketball veteran, is fighting for the right to earn a bigger contract, is one way offensively, and hasn't done anything to prevent the Nets from being the worst team in the NBA.
RHJ's defense isn't as good as those elite defender. And his offense is much worse.
Those 4 players are pretty functional offensively, especially Allen and Iguodala. They either could finishe under the rim or pass or find easy shots. None of those 4 elite defender shoots under 40%. RHJ shoots at 38% and he shoot more than 3/4 of them. Even Roberson from OKC has higher field goal percentage than RHJ, and he took less shots too. RHJ is a bad scorer, and what make it worse is that he loves to take shots. From the first game this season to this day, I didn't see RHJ's progress at all. Whitehead progressed. LeVert progressed.
RHJ can guard 2 and 3 naturally. He can slide to guard 1 or 4 for a minute or two, not any longer.
LeVert can guard 2, he can guard 3 too if the opponent 3 isn't too strong.
I'm not outraged. I just don't like RHJ. His offense is as hopeless as Bogs' defense. I gave up Bogs much earlier than I gave up RHJ.
Some of RHJ and Bogs' minutes should be given to LeVert. By the end of this season, LeVert may become a starter if given the opportunity.
This entire post is so wildly ignorant I don't even know where to begin
Papi_swav wrote:Caris Levert> Jaylen Brown
MrDollarBills wrote:Papi_swav wrote:Caris Levert> Jaylen Brown
It would be pretty funny if somehow all of those picks don't amount to much for Boston
MrDollarBills wrote:antique0o0 wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:
RHJ was not benched, and in fact outside of last game where he was coming off of an injury, his play has ticked upward. Please use intellectually honest arguments if you're going to try to discredit players.
By bench, I mean Atkinson moved him to the bench. At the beginning of this season, he was starting.
I didn't mean DNP. He was never DNP. Although, there were times I wished Atkinson didn't play him at all. Another day, a fan argued with me that RHJ will be back at the starting lineup soon...
I have no agenda against RHJ. I think what he did on the court didn't earned him those opportunities. The Nets have 4 wing players, all of them need minutes,but nobody can give them good amount of time at the same time. LeVert showed what he can do with limited minutes. RHJ didn't. Why not give those opportunities to LeVert?
So you seriously haven't watched the last several games then? Because I cannot fathom anyone saying this unless they didn't. RHJ has played pretty well.
They both will play and probably at the same time since they're the two best defensive wings on the team. You've got an agenda because what you're saying makes little sense.
Thanks for the honesty.MorbidHEAT wrote:My dislike for Lin started during Linsanity. It was absurd. It's probably irrational dislike at this point, but man he gets on my nerves. He's been tearing us up though.
MrDollarBills wrote:shakendfries wrote:antique0o0 wrote:RHJ's defense isn't as good as those elite defender. And his offense is much worse.
Those 4 players are pretty functional offensively, especially Allen and Iguodala. They either could finishe under the rim or pass or find easy shots. None of those 4 elite defender shoots under 40%. RHJ shoots at 38% and he shoot more than 3/4 of them. Even Roberson from OKC has higher field goal percentage than RHJ, and he took less shots too. RHJ is a bad scorer, and what make it worse is that he loves to take shots. From the first game this season to this day, I didn't see RHJ's progress at all. Whitehead progressed. LeVert progressed.
RHJ can guard 2 and 3 naturally. He can slide to guard 1 or 4 for a minute or two, not any longer.
LeVert can guard 2, he can guard 3 too if the opponent 3 isn't too strong.
I'm not outraged. I just don't like RHJ. His offense is as hopeless as Bogs' defense. I gave up Bogs much earlier than I gave up RHJ.
Some of RHJ and Bogs' minutes should be given to LeVert. By the end of this season, LeVert may become a starter if given the opportunity.
This entire post is so wildly ignorant I don't even know where to begin
Seriously. And he derailed the thread because this is supposed to be about LeVert, not make outrageous, non factual statements about RHJ, or giving up on a 21 year old player especially when he's picked his play up. The pissing contests on here regarding players are seriously lame
shakendfries wrote:antique0o0 wrote:shakendfries wrote:
...LeVert is a 2 who played the 1 in college. He doesn't have the strength or skill to defend the 3.
Rondae is a 3 who can switch 1-4 and generally hold his own. He's not gonna stop Aldridge or Milsap in the paint for 48 minutes, but will perform pretty well against them outside the paint.
Tony Allen isn't functional offensively.
Igoudolla isn't functional offensively.
Dennis Rodman wasn't functional offensively.
Bruce Bowen wasn't functional offensively.
3/4 are future HOFers and all had 10+ year successful NBA careers.
Why? It's a lot tougher to find players with elite defensive skill than it is to find one way offensive players. Players who aspire to fit the Korver mold are good to have, but there's a reason there's at least one one way offensive player called up from the D-League each season.
Firstly, it's shortsighted for you to be outraged about the shortcomings of a player in their first few seasons if you refuse to acknowledge their progress or development along the way. Secondly, it's unfair for you to paint one player in a negative light for being one way defensively, if you're not calling out the a player who plays more minutes, is a lot older & even considered a professional basketball veteran, is fighting for the right to earn a bigger contract, is one way offensively, and hasn't done anything to prevent the Nets from being the worst team in the NBA.
RHJ's defense isn't as good as those elite defender. And his offense is much worse.
Those 4 players are pretty functional offensively, especially Allen and Iguodala. They either could finishe under the rim or pass or find easy shots. None of those 4 elite defender shoots under 40%. RHJ shoots at 38% and he shoot more than 3/4 of them. Even Roberson from OKC has higher field goal percentage than RHJ, and he took less shots too. RHJ is a bad scorer, and what make it worse is that he loves to take shots. From the first game this season to this day, I didn't see RHJ's progress at all. Whitehead progressed. LeVert progressed.
RHJ can guard 2 and 3 naturally. He can slide to guard 1 or 4 for a minute or two, not any longer.
LeVert can guard 2, he can guard 3 too if the opponent 3 isn't too strong.
I'm not outraged. I just don't like RHJ. His offense is as hopeless as Bogs' defense. I gave up Bogs much earlier than I gave up RHJ.
Some of RHJ and Bogs' minutes should be given to LeVert. By the end of this season, LeVert may become a starter if given the opportunity.
This entire post is so wildly ignorant I don't even know where to begin
TinmanZBoy wrote:shakendfries wrote:antique0o0 wrote:
RHJ's defense isn't as good as those elite defender. And his offense is much worse.
Those 4 players are pretty functional offensively, especially Allen and Iguodala. They either could finishe under the rim or pass or find easy shots. None of those 4 elite defender shoots under 40%. RHJ shoots at 38% and he shoot more than 3/4 of them. Even Roberson from OKC has higher field goal percentage than RHJ, and he took less shots too. RHJ is a bad scorer, and what make it worse is that he loves to take shots. From the first game this season to this day, I didn't see RHJ's progress at all. Whitehead progressed. LeVert progressed.
RHJ can guard 2 and 3 naturally. He can slide to guard 1 or 4 for a minute or two, not any longer.
LeVert can guard 2, he can guard 3 too if the opponent 3 isn't too strong.
I'm not outraged. I just don't like RHJ. His offense is as hopeless as Bogs' defense. I gave up Bogs much earlier than I gave up RHJ.
Some of RHJ and Bogs' minutes should be given to LeVert. By the end of this season, LeVert may become a starter if given the opportunity.
This entire post is so wildly ignorant I don't even know where to begin
lol... this is probably the best way to respond ...
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CalamityX12 wrote:lol he only had 6 pts guys .....
i luv being a debbie.... HA...
seriously, good potential we have, just stay healthy and hopefully play some minutes
JayJayFor3 wrote:CalamityX12 wrote:lol he only had 6 pts guys .....
i luv being a debbie.... HA...
seriously, good potential we have, just stay healthy and hopefully play some minutes
It's not just 6 pts. It's 6 magnificent BIG points!
