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Post#661 » by DusterBuster » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:08 am

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RipPizzaGuy wrote:If nothing more, we turned Ariza into 2 2nds. I like that. Now if we can do the same with Dedmon and begin to rely heavily on the youngins. As many minutes as possible for Giles, Bagley, Holmes, Bogdan, James, Buddy, Fox. Lets find out who needs to stay and who needs to go over the next 40.


I’m kinda surprised the Blazers didn’t target Dedmon actually. He would have been a great backup for Whiteside and Nurk whenever he’s back. Maybe that’s why Portland initially came calling and the conversation pivoted to this deal.


But would the Blazers want to pay Dedmon next year? Ariza isn't fully guaranteed so this won't have many implications on their cap moving forward.


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Post#662 » by Lost in LA » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:27 am

codydaze wrote:I like it for both teams as well. Gives us another ball handler off the bench.


Is it too late to include Vlade and Walton in the package?
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Post#663 » by OGSactownballer » Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:49 am

kalenclayton wrote:Hate to state the obvious... but if the Atlanta rumor was true from Amick, then Vlade has a better deal two days ago:
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The only thing is like both Grant and Doug stated yesterday on the radio. You don’t know how true this rumor is or if it was just something leaked by Atlanta to try to prod us into it.

Honestly I would explore talking to Boston about the Milwaukee 1st and a couple of smaller deals for Deon who would fit their C need pretty well and is relatively cheap for what he does.
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Post#664 » by City of Trees » Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:44 am

OGSactownballer wrote:
kalenclayton wrote:Hate to state the obvious... but if the Atlanta rumor was true from Amick, then Vlade has a better deal two days ago:
Read on Twitter


The only thing is like both Grant and Doug stated yesterday on the radio. You don’t know how true this rumor is or if it was just something leaked by Atlanta to try to prod us into it.

Honestly I would explore talking to Boston about the Milwaukee 1st and a couple of smaller deals for Deon who would fit their C need pretty well and is relatively cheap for what he does.
IMO shouldnt take much convincing or negotiating.
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Post#665 » by sacking123 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:15 am

I like this trade.
The FO needs to cash in some of the 2nds. They will have enough cheap contracts to fill out the roster after paying Bogdan.
To me this just means 2 x 2nd rounders and not having to pay $1m to Ariza next season.

I really hope this isn't signalling a trade of Bogdan though.
Also perhaps Vlade was trying to get extra assets to swing that first from Atlanta instead of 2 x 2nds.
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Post#666 » by blind prophet » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:01 am

simonbampfield wrote:I like this trade.
The FO needs to cash in some of the 2nds. They will have enough cheap contracts to fill out the roster after paying Bogdan.
To me this just means 2 x 2nd rounders and not having to pay $1m to Ariza next season.

I really hope this isn't signalling a trade of Bogdan though.
Also perhaps Vlade was trying to get extra assets to swing that first from Atlanta instead of 2 x 2nds.


Seconds in 2024 & 2025 no need.

We basically took stinkier trash, got out of Ariza's mini guarantee next year and got two seconds. For nothing,
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Post#667 » by sacking123 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:58 am

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simonbampfield wrote:I like this trade.
The FO needs to cash in some of the 2nds. They will have enough cheap contracts to fill out the roster after paying Bogdan.
To me this just means 2 x 2nd rounders and not having to pay $1m to Ariza next season.

I really hope this isn't signalling a trade of Bogdan though.
Also perhaps Vlade was trying to get extra assets to swing that first from Atlanta instead of 2 x 2nds.


Seconds in 2024 & 2025 no need.

We basically took stinkier trash, got out of Ariza's mini guarantee next year and got two seconds. For nothing,

Ok, so a bit down the track. Still getting a couple of 2nds for nothing really (except if your Vivek).
I would have been hoping for 2022 & 2024 too, but oh well.

At the end of the day it's a couple of 2nds a new GM will have up his sleeve.
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Post#668 » by kalenclayton » Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:41 pm

simonbampfield wrote:
blind prophet wrote:
simonbampfield wrote:I like this trade.
The FO needs to cash in some of the 2nds. They will have enough cheap contracts to fill out the roster after paying Bogdan.
To me this just means 2 x 2nd rounders and not having to pay $1m to Ariza next season.

I really hope this isn't signalling a trade of Bogdan though.
Also perhaps Vlade was trying to get extra assets to swing that first from Atlanta instead of 2 x 2nds.


Seconds in 2024 & 2025 no need.

We basically took stinkier trash, got out of Ariza's mini guarantee next year and got two seconds. For nothing,

Ok, so a bit down the track. Still getting a couple of 2nds for nothing really (except if your Vivek).
I would have been hoping for 2022 & 2024 too, but oh well.

At the end of the day it's a couple of 2nds a new GM will have up his sleeve.

I think it’s best that these 2nds are that far out. It increases the chances that the picks are high 2nds (older and potentially departed Dame and CJ). The Kings already have 4 2nds this year and 3 next. If the team is serious about being competitors during ‘24 and ‘25, it would make sense to have the picks then (Fox will be 26 and 27 respectively).
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Re: Kings Trade Thread 

Post#669 » by City of Trees » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:19 pm

kalenclayton wrote:
simonbampfield wrote:
blind prophet wrote:
Seconds in 2024 & 2025 no need.

We basically took stinkier trash, got out of Ariza's mini guarantee next year and got two seconds. For nothing,

Ok, so a bit down the track. Still getting a couple of 2nds for nothing really (except if your Vivek).
I would have been hoping for 2022 & 2024 too, but oh well.

At the end of the day it's a couple of 2nds a new GM will have up his sleeve.

I think it’s best that these 2nds are that far out. It increases the chances that the picks are high 2nds (older and potentially departed Dame and CJ). The Kings already have 4 2nds this year and 3 next. If the team is serious about being competitors during ‘24 and ‘25, it would make sense to have the picks then (Fox will be 26 and 27 respectively).
High school kids will be eligible soon. My philosophy is have two 2nds per year. Utliize two-way contracts and 209 Kings
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Post#670 » by sacking123 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:49 pm

City of Trees wrote:
kalenclayton wrote:
simonbampfield wrote:Ok, so a bit down the track. Still getting a couple of 2nds for nothing really (except if your Vivek).
I would have been hoping for 2022 & 2024 too, but oh well.

At the end of the day it's a couple of 2nds a new GM will have up his sleeve.

I think it’s best that these 2nds are that far out. It increases the chances that the picks are high 2nds (older and potentially departed Dame and CJ). The Kings already have 4 2nds this year and 3 next. If the team is serious about being competitors during ‘24 and ‘25, it would make sense to have the picks then (Fox will be 26 and 27 respectively).
High school kids will be eligible soon. My philosophy is have two 2nds per year. Utliize two-way contracts and 209 Kings

It's a good strategy to have and the teams that are prepared will have a big advantage, particularly as the G League grows.
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Post#671 » by jbk1234 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:56 pm

Vlade has many flaws as a GM, but his ability to get value for meh role players he overpaid, only months after overpaying them, is impressive tbh.

Of course, it kind of begs the question as to why he's signing these guys to begin with.

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Post#672 » by kalenclayton » Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:26 pm

jbk1234 wrote:Vlade has many flaws as a GM, but his ability to get value for meh role players he overpaid, only months after overpaying them, is impressive tbh.

Of course, it kind of begs the question as to why he's signing these guys to begin with.

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He’s playing the long game for acquiring 2nd rounders that he will not use properly.
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Post#673 » by City of Trees » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:17 pm

Hearing Montrezz Harrell might be traded before the deadline. If I was the Clippers I would keep him even if I had no plans on resigning him.

Winning a Ring > Cashing out on Trezz the expiring
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Post#674 » by kalenclayton » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:06 pm

City of Trees wrote:Hearing Montrezz Harrell might be traded before the deadline. If I was the Clippers I would keep him even if I had no plans on resigning him.

Winning a Ring > Cashing out on Trezz the expiring

Where’d you hear that (and why are you posting it on the Kings board :wink:)?
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Post#675 » by City of Trees » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:41 pm

kalenclayton wrote:
City of Trees wrote:Hearing Montrezz Harrell might be traded before the deadline. If I was the Clippers I would keep him even if I had no plans on resigning him.

Winning a Ring > Cashing out on Trezz the expiring

Where’d you hear that (and why are you posting it on the Kings board :wink:)?
Posting here introduces the idea of Harrell trades.

Speculation. Clippers land thinks its possible given they cant afford what he will command in the off-season and Trezz isnt too happy on SM.
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Post#676 » by kalenclayton » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:55 pm

City of Trees wrote:
kalenclayton wrote:
City of Trees wrote:Hearing Montrezz Harrell might be traded before the deadline. If I was the Clippers I would keep him even if I had no plans on resigning him.

Winning a Ring > Cashing out on Trezz the expiring

Where’d you hear that (and why are you posting it on the Kings board :wink:)?
Posting here introduces the idea of Harrell trades.

Speculation. Clippers land thinks its possible given they cant afford what he will command in the off-season and Trezz isnt too happy on SM.

I don’t think he’s a fit here at this point in time, given the team’s status and his impending UFA. He’s also worth quite a bit, so I don’t think we would want to part with the necessary pieces to get him.

Also, we have Montezl-lite in Holmes.
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Post#677 » by City of Trees » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:12 pm

kalenclayton wrote:
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kalenclayton wrote:Where’d you hear that (and why are you posting it on the Kings board :wink:)?
Posting here introduces the idea of Harrell trades.

Speculation. Clippers land thinks its possible given they cant afford what he will command in the off-season and Trezz isnt too happy on SM.

I don’t think he’s a fit here at this point in time, given the team’s status and his impending UFA. He’s also worth quite a bit, so I don’t think we would want to part with the necessary pieces to get him.

Also, we have Montezl-lite in Holmes.
Valid points I agree.

However that doesnt mean Sacramento cant jump into a Harrell trade.

Our Kings board community isnt large enough where we need multiple trade threads. The thread is titled Kings Trade thread but its well within topic to discuss players from other teams who might be on the block.
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Post#678 » by kalenclayton » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:24 pm

City of Trees wrote:
kalenclayton wrote:
City of Trees wrote:Posting here introduces the idea of Harrell trades.

Speculation. Clippers land thinks its possible given they cant afford what he will command in the off-season and Trezz isnt too happy on SM.

I don’t think he’s a fit here at this point in time, given the team’s status and his impending UFA. He’s also worth quite a bit, so I don’t think we would want to part with the necessary pieces to get him.

Also, we have Montezl-lite in Holmes.
Valid points I agree.

However that doesnt mean Sacramento cant jump into a Harrell trade.

Our Kings board community isnt large enough where we need multiple trade threads. The thread is titled Kings Trade thread but its well within topic to discuss players from other teams who might be on the block.

That’s fine. I put in the “wink” face because I thought you may have put this on the Kings board because they may be interested.

Don’t get me wrong, I love Harrell and have wanted him on the Kings for years, but I just don’t think this team is right for him. We would lose him in the summer unless Vlade decides to hand out a stupid contract. We shouldn’t be paying centers anymore. It’s the most replaceable position and only a few players really deserve the money.
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Post#679 » by BoogieTime » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:32 pm

kalenclayton wrote:
City of Trees wrote:
kalenclayton wrote:I don’t think he’s a fit here at this point in time, given the team’s status and his impending UFA. He’s also worth quite a bit, so I don’t think we would want to part with the necessary pieces to get him.

Also, we have Montezl-lite in Holmes.
Valid points I agree.

However that doesnt mean Sacramento cant jump into a Harrell trade.

Our Kings board community isnt large enough where we need multiple trade threads. The thread is titled Kings Trade thread but its well within topic to discuss players from other teams who might be on the block.

That’s fine. I put in the “wink” face because I thought you may have put this on the Kings board because they may be interested.

Don’t get me wrong, I love Harrell and have wanted him on the Kings for years, but I just don’t think this team is right for him. We would lose him in the summer unless Vlade decides to hand out a stupid contract. We shouldn’t be paying centers anymore. It’s the most replaceable position and only a few players really deserve the money.


I don’t think he’s a center

I love Harrell, but don’t know about paying anything for UFAs when we arguably don’t need to be getting better. But there is an argument for checking his status before matching BOgi with James looking decent

Holmes/Harrell playing together may not exactly be symmetrical but i wouldn’t mind it
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Post#680 » by bleeds_purple » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:35 pm

simonbampfield wrote:I like this trade.
The FO needs to cash in some of the 2nds. They will have enough cheap contracts to fill out the roster after paying Bogdan.
To me this just means 2 x 2nd rounders and not having to pay $1m to Ariza next season.

I really hope this isn't signalling a trade of Bogdan though.
Also perhaps Vlade was trying to get extra assets to swing that first from Atlanta instead of 2 x 2nds.


Could signal moving Bogdan.

Could also signal clearing out space to resign him.

We can only hope for the latter.

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