Woj: Domantas Sabonis, J. Lamb, J. Holiday Traded to Sacramento for Tyrese Haliburton, Buddy Hield, T. Thompson

Hoop Hunter · Post #661 » by **Hoop Hunter** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:03 am

Well since it's been bumped I can't help but post.

Tyrese Haliburton has 21 playoff wins in the last two years.

The Sacramento Kings have 18 playoff wins in the last 22 years.

Wingy · Post #662 » by **Wingy** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:07 am

XTC wrote:
CptCrunch wrote:Fox has always been and willl always be dog water trash.

Trading Hali ended Kings' contention window. Choosing Fox over Hali was criminal.

Its honestly funny reading the comments and people saying this trade was a win-win

It was highway robbery from day 1. The Pacers legit got a franchise point guard for expendable pieces (Sorry Sabonis).

Revisionist history always with this stuff. Fox was near untradable at the time. Max contract, underperforming, his value was like how Lavine is perceived now.

They keep them both, they would have continued to hurt the value of both, or they trade the guy they actually could trade. Fox rebuilt his value after the poor fit with Hali ended.

Even if they found a taker for Fox, it’s still the Kangz. No way in hell they put such a strong, deep, cohesive team around him. He wouldn’t even make the playoffs.

We’re talking about the franchise that thinks Keegan Murray is some untouchable and wouldn’t move him for Siakam.

The franchise that thought signing DeRozan was a good idea. That was probably the last straw that made Fox say get me the eff out of here.

Kangz gonna Kangz. Hali wouldn’t have become the guy we know now.

XTC · Post #663 » by **XTC** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:20 am

Hoop Hunter wrote:Well since it's been bumped I can't help but post.

Tyrese Haliburton has 21 playoff wins in the last two years.

The Sacramento Kings have 18 playoff wins in the last 22 years.

Best trade in franchise history for the Pacers. Highway Robbery.

Marvin Martian · Post #664 » by **Marvin Martian** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:21 am

Wingy wrote:
XTC wrote:
CptCrunch wrote:Fox has always been and willl always be dog water trash.

Trading Hali ended Kings' contention window. Choosing Fox over Hali was criminal.

Its honestly funny reading the comments and people saying this trade was a win-win

It was highway robbery from day 1. The Pacers legit got a franchise point guard for expendable pieces (Sorry Sabonis).

Revisionist history always with this stuff. Fox was near untradable at the time. Max contract, underperforming, his value was like how Lavine is perceived now.

They keep them both, they would have continued to hurt the value of both, or they trade the guy they actually could trade. Fox rebuilt his value after the poor fit with Hali ended.

Even if they found a taker for Fox, it’s still the Kangz. No way in hell they put such a strong, deep, cohesive team around him. He wouldn’t even make the playoffs.

We’re talking about the franchise that thinks Keegan Murray is some untouchable and wouldn’t move him for Siakam.

The franchise that thought signing DeRozan was a good idea. That was probably the last straw that made Fox say get me the eff out of here.

Kangz gonna Kangz. Hali wouldn’t have become the guy we know now.

How did Fox rebuild his value? He basically only had one good year before regressing back to his average. When he asked out, SAC got less value for him than they got for Haliburton.

XTC · Post #665 » by **XTC** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:28 am

Marvin Martian wrote:
Wingy wrote:
XTC wrote:
Its honestly funny reading the comments and people saying this trade was a win-win

It was highway robbery from day 1. The Pacers legit got a franchise point guard for expendable pieces (Sorry Sabonis).

Revisionist history always with this stuff. Fox was near untradable at the time. Max contract, underperforming, his value was like how Lavine is perceived now.

They keep them both, they would have continued to hurt the value of both, or they trade the guy they actually could trade. Fox rebuilt his value after the poor fit with Hali ended.

Even if they found a taker for Fox, it’s still the Kangz. No way in hell they put such a strong, deep, cohesive team around him. He wouldn’t even make the playoffs.

We’re talking about the franchise that thinks Keegan Murray is some untouchable and wouldn’t move him for Siakam.

The franchise that thought signing DeRozan was a good idea. That was probably the last straw that made Fox say get me the eff out of here.

Kangz gonna Kangz. Hali wouldn’t have become the guy we know now.

How did Fox rebuild his value? He basically only had one good year before regressing back to his average. When he asked out, SAC got less value for him than they got for Haliburton.

Everyone knew the trade was bad then, but people justified trading away Haliburton because Sabonis lead the Kangz to their first playoff berth in 16 seasons. Sad.

Trading away Haliburton was awful then, and it's even worst now.

I think people forget Haliburton was breaking out before getting traded. In his last 24 games in a Kings uniform the 21 year old point guard averaged 17.1/3.8/9.4/1.6 in 36 MPG on 47/43/87 shooting splits (a TS of 60.1%).

Black Jack · Post #666 » by **Black Jack** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:33 am

Stay strong Kings fans...you are building up karma points and one day you'll get your contending squad.

As a dubs fan losing Webber was devastating, never thought we'd recover from that. Then we got Curry and friends.

Wingy · Post #667 » by **Wingy** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:35 am

Marvin Martian wrote:
Wingy wrote:
XTC wrote:
Its honestly funny reading the comments and people saying this trade was a win-win

It was highway robbery from day 1. The Pacers legit got a franchise point guard for expendable pieces (Sorry Sabonis).

Revisionist history always with this stuff. Fox was near untradable at the time. Max contract, underperforming, his value was like how Lavine is perceived now.

They keep them both, they would have continued to hurt the value of both, or they trade the guy they actually could trade. Fox rebuilt his value after the poor fit with Hali ended.

Even if they found a taker for Fox, it’s still the Kangz. No way in hell they put such a strong, deep, cohesive team around him. He wouldn’t even make the playoffs.

We’re talking about the franchise that thinks Keegan Murray is some untouchable and wouldn’t move him for Siakam.

The franchise that thought signing DeRozan was a good idea. That was probably the last straw that made Fox say get me the eff out of here.

Kangz gonna Kangz. Hali wouldn’t have become the guy we know now.

How did Fox rebuild his value? He basically only had one good year before regressing back to his average. When he asked out, SAC got less value for him than they got for Haliburton.

Huh? Going from nearly un-tradable to getting 2 firsts, 5 seconds, and Lavine (who gets way too much flack imo) after you’ve all but asked for a trade is certainly rebuilt value.

Dupp · Post #668 » by **Dupp** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:41 am

RIPskaterdude wrote:What a terrible **** trade. **** Vivek

Breath

Wallace_Wallace · Post #669 » by **Wallace_Wallace** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:46 am

Fox and Halliburton would have been a siiiiiick backcourt.

xxSnEaKyPxx · Post #670 » by **xxSnEaKyPxx** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:48 am

Wallace_Wallace wrote:Fox and Halliburton would have been a siiiiiick backcourt.

No, they would have never worked well together. Haliburton needs the ball in his hands, and if you're asking Fox to be play off-ball...whats the point? One of them needed to go and Fox had no value at the time because the two weren't playing well together.

SNPA · Post #671 » by **SNPA** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 6:46 am

xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:
Wallace_Wallace wrote:Fox and Halliburton would have been a siiiiiick backcourt.

No, they would have never worked well together. Haliburton needs the ball in his hands, and if you're asking Fox to be play off-ball...whats the point? One of them needed to go and Fox had no value at the time because the two weren't playing well together.

You can’t know that it wouldn’t work. Teams can have two players who handle and initiate. What we know is it didn’t work under Luke Walton and Vivek pulled the plug before giving it a chance under a real coach.

FlatearthZorro · Post #672 » by **FlatearthZorro** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 7:02 am

I've believed Hali is better than Fox for at least 2 years. Prove me wrong.

Wargreymon · Post #673 » by **Wargreymon** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 7:13 am

Can't believe Vivek thought Fox is better than Hali...smh

mj234eva · Post #674 » by **mj234eva** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 7:23 am

zeebneeb wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:This is a good trade for both teams. Sabonis is unquestionably the best player involved in this deal, and is only 25.

Indiana is resetting, and the Kings obviously believe that pairing Fox with a legit all-star bigman is what they wanted. Now they've got it. I imagine another move is in the works for Sacramento, and Grant would fit very nicely there.
Looks like i was finally correct on anything.

Cool.

Update needed.

AdagioPace · Post #675 » by **AdagioPace** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 7:32 am

xxSnEaKyPxx · Post #676 » by **xxSnEaKyPxx** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 7:35 am

SNPA wrote:
xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:
Wallace_Wallace wrote:Fox and Halliburton would have been a siiiiiick backcourt.

No, they would have never worked well together. Haliburton needs the ball in his hands, and if you're asking Fox to be play off-ball...whats the point? One of them needed to go and Fox had no value at the time because the two weren't playing well together.

You can’t know that it wouldn’t work. Teams can have two players who handle and initiate. What we know is it didn’t work under Luke Walton and Vivek pulled the plug before giving it a chance under a real coach.

Who’s playing defense? If Haliburton is running the offense, Fox playing off-ball greatly limits what he’s great at.

It just doesn’t make sense. At least in my opinion.

BoogieTime · Post #677 » by **BoogieTime** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 8:41 am

FlatearthZorro wrote:I've believed Hali is better than Fox for at least 2 years. Prove me wrong.

No one believes otherwise, your talking to yourself

BoogieTime · Post #678 » by **BoogieTime** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 8:42 am

Wargreymon wrote:Can't believe Vivek thought Fox is better than Hali...smh

Have you read the thread at all? Hali was traded because he had value and Fox didn’t

BoogieTime · Post #679 » by **BoogieTime** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 8:52 am

Black Jack wrote:Stay strong Kings fans...you are building up karma points and one day you'll get your contending squad.

As a dubs fan losing Webber was devastating, never thought we'd recover from that. Then we got Curry and friends.

We done built it up 15 years prior. We’re living proof ultimate fairness doesn’t exist

LuDux1 · Post #680 » by **LuDux1** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 10:10 am

xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:
Wallace_Wallace wrote:Fox and Halliburton would have been a siiiiiick backcourt.

No, they would have never worked well together. Haliburton needs the ball in his hands, and if you're asking Fox to be play off-ball...whats the point? One of them needed to go and Fox had no value at the time because the two weren't playing well together.

Maybe he meant "sick of each other backcourt"

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