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[kobe_vs_jordan]

LAL sends Vincent, '31 1st (top 4 protected) to the Nets, Knecht and '32 2nd to the Kings. LAL receives Sharp, Carter and Ellis.

The Nets send Sharp to LAL and '27, '30 and '31 LAL 2nds to the Kings. The Nets receive Vincent and the LAL '31 1st.

The Kings send Carter and Ellis to LAL and receive Knecht and the four LAL 2nds.

Kings sending the best role player in the deal and getting the worst asset imo

[kobe_vs_jordan]

Think lakers should focus on converting their expirings into 2 year deals

[nzahir]

Oubre and Grimes to LAL
Rui to third team
2 SRPs, expiring contract and a protected 2031 LAL first to PHI

Basically, LAL flips Rui to a third team in need of a PF for two seconds and an expiring then flips those and a 1st to PHI. Does this framework make any sense?

I really like this. Gets LAL some defenders, gets Philly a 1st. Not sure who the Rui team is, but I bet they can be found? But a direct trade may also make sense - either Rui, or Vincent + Kleber.

Definitely not

Just not a big enough upgrade to move Rui and a 1st

I view Rui>Oubre

Not moving a 1st for Grimes, who we cant even afford to pay next summer

Also a 2nd, which we have only 1 left iirc

[nzahir]

Rui for Grayson Allen is a trade that makes sense

Think phoenix prefer allens extra year of control

Rui+DK for Allen?

I like that deal if we have another deal lined up for a 3+D wing, such as Wiggins
2031 1st, Vando, Gabe, Kleber for Wiggins and any salary filler if needed
Could add in a swap with light protections before 2031 if needed?

Luka, AR, Wiggins, Bron, Ayton
Smart, Allen, Laravia, ??, Hayes

We may now be light on forwards funny enough

[_GH0ST_]

I'm curious why Lakers fans still think they can get Wiggins for a FRP and fillers. Reports say the Heat wanted more than a FRP for him in the summer but now that everything is going well, are we going to give them a discount lol

[kobe_vs_jordan]

I'm curious why Lakers fans still think they can get Wiggins for a FRP and fillers. Reports say the Heat wanted more than a FRP for him in the summer but now that everything is going well, are we going to give them a discount lol

A laker fan*

Lakers fans the general consensus wouldn’t send a pick for Wiggins.

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I'm curious why Lakers fans still think they can get Wiggins for a FRP and fillers. Reports say the Heat wanted more than a FRP for him in the summer but now that everything is going well, are we going to give them a discount lol

A laker fan*

Lakers fans the general consensus wouldn’t send a pick for Wiggins.

Nico is not our GM

[DNP-Old]

LAL sends Vincent, '31 1st (top 4 protected) to the Nets, Knecht and '32 2nd to the Kings. LAL receives Sharp, Carter and Ellis.

The Nets send Sharp to LAL and '27, '30 and '31 LAL 2nds to the Kings. The Nets receive Vincent and the LAL '31 1st.

The Kings send Carter and Ellis to LAL and receive Knecht and the four LAL 2nds.

Kings sending the best role player in the deal and getting the worst asset imo

True but I think Ellis is playing somewhere other than Sacramento next season.

[dcstanley]

Oubre and Grimes to LAL
Rui to third team
2 SRPs, expiring contract and a protected 2031 LAL first to PHI

Basically, LAL flips Rui to a third team in need of a PF for two seconds and an expiring then flips those and a 1st to PHI. Does this framework make any sense?

I really like this. Gets LAL some defenders, gets Philly a 1st. Not sure who the Rui team is, but I bet they can be found? But a direct trade may also make sense - either Rui, or Vincent + Kleber.

Definitely not

Just not a big enough upgrade to move Rui and a 1st

I view Rui>Oubre

Not moving a 1st for Grimes, who we cant even afford to pay next summer

Also a 2nd, which we have only 1 left iirc

This might not be the right deal but I would like the Lakers to move Rui. I think there's a team out there in need of a PF that would send the Lakers a small asset or two for Rui that they could then use for a starting SF.

Rui is just not a great fit with their big three. He shoots the hell out of the ball but is low volume and too slow-footed and low-IQ defensively. In the last two games JJ opted to close with Gabe and Smart over Rui.

[nzahir]

I'm curious why Lakers fans still think they can get Wiggins for a FRP and fillers. Reports say the Heat wanted more than a FRP for him in the summer but now that everything is going well, are we going to give them a discount lol

What do you think he is worth?

We can do a 1st and a swap/DK

Miami is doing well and the east is pretty weak, but they dont have a real shot against a team like OKC, Den or even LAL

[mademan]

I'm curious why Lakers fans still think they can get Wiggins for a FRP and fillers. Reports say the Heat wanted more than a FRP for him in the summer but now that everything is going well, are we going to give them a discount lol

What do you think he is worth?

We can do a 1st and a swap/DK

Miami is doing well and the east is pretty weak, but they dont have a real shot against a team like OKC, Den or even LAL

Indy didnt have a shot either, but they came within a game. A team at the top of their conference isnt gonna sell, especially when that team is Miami, who always like to compete.

[Devilanche]

I'm curious why Lakers fans still think they can get Wiggins for a FRP and fillers. Reports say the Heat wanted more than a FRP for him in the summer but now that everything is going well, are we going to give them a discount lol

What do you think he is worth?

We can do a 1st and a swap/DK

Miami is doing well and the east is pretty weak, but they dont have a real shot against a team like OKC, Den or even LAL

Lakers doesn’t have as good a chance out of getting out of conference compared to Miami though.

There’s OKC, Den, Hou, Min and probably one team that might finish the season strong whoever that might be.

Edit - if the argument that Miami could be potential seller cause they aren’t likely to win whoever come out West , then the similar argument could be made that Lakers should only explore bargain trades as they are unlikely to be that team that make it out West.

[nzahir]

I'm curious why Lakers fans still think they can get Wiggins for a FRP and fillers. Reports say the Heat wanted more than a FRP for him in the summer but now that everything is going well, are we going to give them a discount lol

What do you think he is worth?

We can do a 1st and a swap/DK

Miami is doing well and the east is pretty weak, but they dont have a real shot against a team like OKC, Den or even LAL

Indy didnt have a shot either, but they came within a game. A team at the top of their conference isnt gonna sell, especially when that team is Miami, who always like to compete.

Indy last year>Miami this year

Indy actually had a decent amount of talent

Both played at a very fast pace, but will see if Miami can keep this up in the playoffs. Indi had the guys for it with Hali and TJ

[nzahir]

I'm curious why Lakers fans still think they can get Wiggins for a FRP and fillers. Reports say the Heat wanted more than a FRP for him in the summer but now that everything is going well, are we going to give them a discount lol

What do you think he is worth?

We can do a 1st and a swap/DK

Miami is doing well and the east is pretty weak, but they dont have a real shot against a team like OKC, Den or even LAL

Lakers doesn’t have as good a chance out of getting out of conference compared to Miami though.

There’s OKC, Den, Hou, Min and probably one team that might finish the season strong whoever that might be.

Edit - if the argument that Miami could be potential seller cause they aren’t likely to win whoever come out West , then the similar argument could be made that Lakers should only explore bargain trades as they are unlikely to be that team that make it out West.

Lakers have Luka and AR in their primes and an aging Lebron, they kinda need to push in the chips

I say LAL has a better shot of winning it all than Miami due to how good Luka is

[_GH0ST_]

I'm curious why Lakers fans still think they can get Wiggins for a FRP and fillers. Reports say the Heat wanted more than a FRP for him in the summer but now that everything is going well, are we going to give them a discount lol

What do you think he is worth?

We can do a 1st and a swap/DK

Miami is doing well and the east is pretty weak, but they dont have a real shot against a team like OKC, Den or even LAL

As Devilanche said, the Lakers' chances of advancing from the conference aren't as high as Miami's. The Lakers have literally zero defensive players and I think that will be a major problem in the playoffs. With teams like Okc, Denver and Houston in the West, I'd be surprised to see the Lakers advance past the second round.

[JHFVF07]

Again, as a Lakers fan Im sorry for Lebron, but Im all for wait, if a really good deal appears we can take it, but if not. Wait for next season, Reaves caphold is small, sign 3-D roleplayers, resign Reaves, use future picks(in summer we will be able to trade more picks) to get a real upgrade.

[K_chile22]

Any shot pippen becomes a trade candidate since the grizz suck? Would love him to be the backup PG behind Reed and he has a great contract situation for an expensive team. not sure he's worth one of the rockets good picks but maybe a 2028 swap where Grizz get the option to swap the worst of theirs and Orlando's with houston and some seconds? That may be too little

[psman2]

Any shot pippen becomes a trade candidate since the grizz suck? Would love him to be the backup PG behind Reed and he has a great contract situation for an expensive team. not sure he's worth one of the rockets good picks but maybe a 2028 swap where Grizz get the option to swap the worst of theirs and Orlando's with houston and some seconds? That may be too little

He could easily be our starter once the Ja situation is settled and he is back from his injury. I don't think we are going to be in any rush to move him unless it a clear overpayment, and likely to get an overpayment he will need to be back healthy and producing so if a trade is made likely close to the deadline. A swap with a slim chance of occurring and likely just a few spots if it does and some 2nds likely not enough imo.

[K_chile22]

Any shot pippen becomes a trade candidate since the grizz suck? Would love him to be the backup PG behind Reed and he has a great contract situation for an expensive team. not sure he's worth one of the rockets good picks but maybe a 2028 swap where Grizz get the option to swap the worst of theirs and Orlando's with houston and some seconds? That may be too little

He could easily be our starter once the Ja situation is settled and he is back from his injury. I don't think we are going to be in any rush to move him unless it a clear overpayment, and likely to get an overpayment he will need to be back healthy and producing so if a trade is made likely close to the deadline. A swap with a slim chance of occurring and likely just a few spots if it does and some 2nds likely not enough imo.

What about second best of PHX and BKN next year with top 12 protection and if it lands in there becomes 2028 top 8 protected Houston pick for Pippen and a second or two

[psman2]

Any shot pippen becomes a trade candidate since the grizz suck? Would love him to be the backup PG behind Reed and he has a great contract situation for an expensive team. not sure he's worth one of the rockets good picks but maybe a 2028 swap where Grizz get the option to swap the worst of theirs and Orlando's with houston and some seconds? That may be too little

He could easily be our starter once the Ja situation is settled and he is back from his injury. I don't think we are going to be in any rush to move him unless it a clear overpayment, and likely to get an overpayment he will need to be back healthy and producing so if a trade is made likely close to the deadline. A swap with a slim chance of occurring and likely just a few spots if it does and some 2nds likely not enough imo.

What about second best of PHX and BKN next year with top 12 protection and if it lands in there becomes 2028 top 8 protected Houston pick for Pippen and a second or two

This I think we should accept.

It just really hard to judge our direction. As bad as our start to the season has been we are 10th and there are a bunch of teams that are going to hard tank so no GTD if we choose that direction we get a good lottery pick. Vince Williams is doing a admirable job but will likely go back to the bench/9th man wing with Pippen as the main back PG and possible starter. Jerome is likely locked into 6th man role when he gets back. I still think our roster talent is top 6 in the west when healthy, but until Ja either buys in or is traded it is really difficult to predict that our most likely trade desires are.