Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXX: Offseason Edition)

cvMagic · Post #681 » by **cvMagic** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 7:56 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:That would make us.....the sixers.....and puts us in no man's land again. Not Good enough to contend not bad enough to get a high pick.

Which is how i view any deal with Houston as well. The NBA is all about acquiring elite talent and then watching the mid-tier free agents flock to play with them on lesser deals.

Put it this way... what's the last team without a true superstar to win a title? Hmmm...
Heat 2012
Mavs 2011
Lakers 2010
Lakers 2010
Celts 2009
Keep going until the 70's and see if you find one.

Bynum is the only possible asset being discussed that has the potential to be an elite player.

vinageras · Post #682 » by **vinageras** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 7:56 pm

If we are considering this deal from LA Clippers, I'm going to cringe!
http://www.hoopsworld.com/2012-nba-free-agency-diary

It is true that we have a need in those exact positions (PG, SF, and C), but Caron Butler is old and locked for 2 more years, and DeAndre Jordan isn't half the player DEFENSIVELY that Dwight is (let alone offensively)...

TDJacksonville · Post #683 » by **TDJacksonville** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 7:57 pm

i still think a trade with the jazz would be great.

Magic get: Jefferson, Harris, Bell, Millsap, murphy

Utah get: Dwight, Turk, Jrich, rights to fran, Rhyno.

magic get 4 Talented Expiring contracts, a Disgruntled SG and Murphy whos a good scorer.

TDJacksonville · Post #684 » by **TDJacksonville** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 7:59 pm

vinageras wrote:If we are considering this deal from LA Clippers, I'm going to cringe!
http://www.hoopsworld.com/2012-nba-free-agency-diary

It is true that we have a need in those exact positions (PG, SF, and C), but Caron Butler is old and locked for 2 more years, and DeAndre Jordan isn't half the player DEFENSIVELY that Dwight is (let alone offensively)...

awful doesnt even describe the deal good enough.

RickB-Orlando · Post #685 » by **RickB-Orlando** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 8:02 pm

TDJacksonville wrote:
vinageras wrote:If we are considering this deal from LA Clippers, I'm going to cringe!
http://www.hoopsworld.com/2012-nba-free-agency-diary

It is true that we have a need in those exact positions (PG, SF, and C), but Caron Butler is old and locked for 2 more years, and DeAndre Jordan isn't half the player DEFENSIVELY that Dwight is (let alone offensively)...

awful doesnt even describe the deal good enough.

It's Kyler. That immediately makes it questionable.

Cammo101 · Post #686 » by **Cammo101** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 8:06 pm

Get me a 3 team deal where we get Bledsoe, Jordan, and Evan Turner and I'll be a happy camper.

NEM · Post #687 » by **NEM** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 8:07 pm

RickB-Orlando wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:
vinageras wrote:If we are considering this deal from LA Clippers, I'm going to cringe!
http://www.hoopsworld.com/2012-nba-free-agency-diary

It is true that we have a need in those exact positions (PG, SF, and C), but Caron Butler is old and locked for 2 more years, and DeAndre Jordan isn't half the player DEFENSIVELY that Dwight is (let alone offensively)...

awful doesnt even describe the deal good enough.

It's Kyler. That immediately makes it questionable.

kyler or not, it doesnt take a genius to figure out what the clippers will offe you... it wont be paul or griffin because thats who they are trying to pair dwight with, so what are the next best assets? jordan, bledsoe, and picks... butler makes the salaries match up...

Skin · Post #688 » by **Skin** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 8:10 pm

Cammo101 wrote:Get me a 3 team deal where we get Bledsoe, Jordan, and Evan Turner and I'll be a happy camper.

Yeah! Westbrook, Harden and Durant can't beat that!

OrlandO · Post #689 » by **OrlandO** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 8:10 pm

bianchi ripping howard on 740thegame lol

NickAndersonsBack25 · Post #690 » by **NickAndersonsBack25** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 8:11 pm

Are people (a) thankful the Nets made the Gerald Wallace trading, getting ride of the #6 overall pick in this year's draft -- making it unlikely the Magic trade Dwight there; or (b) pissed the Nets squandered the little assets they had for Dwight?

Cammo101 · Post #691 » by **Cammo101** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 8:11 pm

Skin wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:Get me a 3 team deal where we get Bledsoe, Jordan, and Evan Turner and I'll be a happy camper.

Yeah! Westbrook, Harden and Durant can't beat that!

Rome wasn't built in a day. Turner and Bledsoe are legit young talents.

SolidSnake008 · Post #692 » by **SolidSnake008** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 8:11 pm

Cammo101 wrote:Get me a 3 team deal where we get Bledsoe, Jordan, and Evan Turner and I'll be a happy camper.

backasswards · Post #693 » by **backasswards** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 8:12 pm

cvMagic wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:That would make us.....the sixers.....and puts us in no man's land again. Not Good enough to contend not bad enough to get a high pick.

Which is how i view any deal with Houston as well. The NBA is all about acquiring elite talent and then watching the mid-tier free agents flock to play with them on lesser deals.

Put it this way... what's the last team without a true superstar to win a title? Hmmm...
Heat 2012
Mavs 2011
Lakers 2010
Lakers 2010
Celts 2009
Keep going until the 70's and see if you find one.

Bynum is the only possible asset being discussed that has the potential to be an elite player.

The Pistons did not have a superstar on their roster when they won not too long ago.

NEM · Post #694 » by **NEM** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 8:13 pm

Skin wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:Get me a 3 team deal where we get Bledsoe, Jordan, and Evan Turner and I'll be a happy camper.

Yeah! Westbrook, Harden and Durant can't beat that!

i wouldnt be too worried about what okc could beat because we dont have to play them till the finals... im a little worried that that core wouldnt be able to get to the playoffs

NEM · Post #695 » by **NEM** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 8:14 pm

backasswards wrote:
cvMagic wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:That would make us.....the sixers.....and puts us in no man's land again. Not Good enough to contend not bad enough to get a high pick.

Which is how i view any deal with Houston as well. The NBA is all about acquiring elite talent and then watching the mid-tier free agents flock to play with them on lesser deals.

Put it this way... what's the last team without a true superstar to win a title? Hmmm...
Heat 2012
Mavs 2011
Lakers 2010
Lakers 2010
Celts 2009
Keep going until the 70's and see if you find one.

Bynum is the only possible asset being discussed that has the potential to be an elite player.

The Pistons did not have a superstar on their roster when they won not too long ago.

people need to stop riding that train... for every 2004 pistons team, there are 59 other teams or so that have won with elite stars

Nyce_1 · Post #696 » by **Nyce_1** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 8:22 pm

Cammo101 wrote:Get me a 3 team deal where we get Bledsoe, Jordan, and Evan Turner and I'll be a happy camper.

I'd role with that but I don't think neither team will give up their youth and not get back Dwight.

TDJacksonville · Post #697 » by **TDJacksonville** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 8:27 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:Get me a 3 team deal where we get Bledsoe, Jordan, and Evan Turner and I'll be a happy camper.

I'd role with that but I don't think neither team will give up their youth and not get back Dwight.

id pass on jordan. way 2 big of a deal for how bad a player he is

Centeno · Post #698 » by **Centeno** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 8:28 pm

NickAndersonsBack25 wrote:Are people (a) thankful the Nets made the Gerald Wallace trading, getting ride of the #6 overall pick in this year's draft -- making it unlikely the Magic trade Dwight there; or (b) pissed the Nets squandered the little assets they had for Dwight?

I'm thankful. Nets fans during the deadline were so cocky thinking they were getting Dwight. They're legitimately one of my least favorite teams now.

magicfan4life88 · Post #699 » by **magicfan4life88** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 8:34 pm

Idk about you guys but id trade howard for a star guard or small forward and sign kaman or camby to play center

rcklsscognition · Post #700 » by **rcklsscognition** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 8:37 pm

magicfan4life88 wrote:Idk about you guys but id trade howard for a star guard or small forward and sign kaman or camby to play center

Indy is probably going to take one of camby or kaman once they decline matching hibbert's contract. I'm down for a defensive center with a little offensive game and a 10-12 mil contract.