2022 NBA Draft Part II

[rpa]

Dyson should be #4 this year.

Elite agility and size.

Elite defense for age.

Great play maker who can play PG.

Incredibly well spoken for age.

Wart is with shooting, but showed great shooting near end of season and supposedly during current workouts. Shooting is the easiest to improve aspect of the game.

I would be tempted to take him top 3 this point ahead of Jabari.

Really, I see no reason you take a Ivey over this guy. Jumping a bit higher does what?

I think Dyson's floor is super high due to a lot of the reasons you mention, but that his ceiling's a bit lower because he's just so-so at taking people off the dribble (plus the shooting problems). Because of that I don't think I'd pick him top 4, but am near 100% sure he'll be better than at least one player picked in that range.

[SelfishPlayer]

Dyson doesn't have a high floor. He can rather easily be the next Dante Exum.

[tmorgan]

Dyson doesn't have a high floor. He can rather easily be the next Dante Exum.

Is there an injury risk you’re aware of, or are you just stating the blatantly obvious? Any prospect can get derailed by constant injuries.

Then there’s also the fact that Daniels and Exum are quite dissimilar. Daniels is less of an athlete and more of an actual basketball player.

[SelfishPlayer]

Dyson doesn't have a high floor. He can rather easily be the next Dante Exum.

Is there an injury risk you’re aware of, or are you just stating the blatantly obvious? Any prospect can get derailed by constant injuries.

Then there’s also the fact that Daniels and Exum are quite dissimilar. Daniels is less of an athlete and more of an actual basketball player.

They are the same, Australian tall point guards. Exum was never good enough.

[tmorgan]

Dyson doesn't have a high floor. He can rather easily be the next Dante Exum.

Is there an injury risk you’re aware of, or are you just stating the blatantly obvious? Any prospect can get derailed by constant injuries.

Then there’s also the fact that Daniels and Exum are quite dissimilar. Daniels is less of an athlete and more of an actual basketball player.

They are the same, Australian tall point guards. Exum was never good enough.

Brilliant analysis.

[SelfishPlayer]

Is there an injury risk you’re aware of, or are you just stating the blatantly obvious? Any prospect can get derailed by constant injuries.

Then there’s also the fact that Daniels and Exum are quite dissimilar. Daniels is less of an athlete and more of an actual basketball player.

They are the same, Australian tall point guards. Exum was never good enough.

Brilliant analysis.

They aren't brilliant players.

[The Moose]

Dyson should be #4 this year.

Elite agility and size.

Elite defense for age.

Great play maker who can play PG.

Incredibly well spoken for age.

Wart is with shooting, but showed great shooting near end of season and supposedly during current workouts. Shooting is the easiest to improve aspect of the game.

I would be tempted to take him top 3 this point ahead of Jabari.

Really, I see no reason you take a Ivey over this guy. Jumping a bit higher does what?

would love this backcourt

[babyjax13]

Dyson doesn't have a high floor. He can rather easily be the next Dante Exum.

Is there an injury risk you’re aware of, or are you just stating the blatantly obvious? Any prospect can get derailed by constant injuries.

Then there’s also the fact that Daniels and Exum are quite dissimilar. Daniels is less of an athlete and more of an actual basketball player.

They are the same, Australian tall point guards. Exum was never good enough.

I've watched a lot of Dante Exum, they do not play similarly at all. Dante could do two things on offense, run a PnR and throw a nice lob, or run the PnR and get to the rim. Dyson is so much more advanced in his feel for the game, his passing, his shooting, and is a bit better defensively (where Dante was pretty good). Doesn't have quite the same first step, but I think he'll be a lot more successful pro.

[SelfishPlayer]

Anyone that can get you 7 assists per game with the ball in their hands is a point guard/lead ball handler these days. With that being the case Bennedict Mathurin needs to be thrown into that group, but he also may be a lead scorer as well. I never read anyone discuss unearthing scorers out of the draft anymore. The focus seems to revolve around 3 and D players and playmakers, but not who projects to be outright cold blooded scorers who create for themselves and close games.

[WargamesX]

Is there an injury risk you’re aware of, or are you just stating the blatantly obvious? Any prospect can get derailed by constant injuries.

Then there’s also the fact that Daniels and Exum are quite dissimilar. Daniels is less of an athlete and more of an actual basketball player.

They are the same, Australian tall point guards. Exum was never good enough.

I've watched a lot of Dante Exum, they do not play similarly at all. Dante could do two things on offense, run a PnR and throw a nice lob, or run the PnR and get to the rim. Dyson is so much more advanced in his feel for the game, his passing, his shooting, and is a bit better defensively (where Dante was pretty good). Doesn't have quite the same first step, but I think he'll be a lot more successful pro.

His shooting is a liability in general, but everything else you said is true.

[The Moose]

Anyone that can get you 7 assists per game with the ball in their hands is a point guard/lead ball handler these days. With that being the case Bennedict Mathurin needs to be thrown into that group, but he also may be a lead scorer as well. I never read anyone discuss unearthing scorers out of the draft anymore. The focus seems to revolve around 3 and D players and playmakers, but not who projects to be outright cold blooded scorers who create for themselves and close games.

There has been 98 guards/wing 1st round picks drafted since 2008 with an assist rate equal to or below Mathurin. Only 5 of them have even topped 5apg in a single season of their career , and only one, Jimmy Butler, has touched 7 apg.

Why do you think he’s a 7 apg guy? His handle is pretty weak and he has very little shift. He’s basically a straight line driver at this point. He played a little bit of pnr this season and was ok as the handler but I definitely don’t see how he would be projected as a lead ball handler

[babyjax13]

They are the same, Australian tall point guards. Exum was never good enough.

I've watched a lot of Dante Exum, they do not play similarly at all. Dante could do two things on offense, run a PnR and throw a nice lob, or run the PnR and get to the rim. Dyson is so much more advanced in his feel for the game, his passing, his shooting, and is a bit better defensively (where Dante was pretty good). Doesn't have quite the same first step, but I think he'll be a lot more successful pro.

His shooting is a liability in general, but everything else you said is true.

He shot poorly from three in a really small sample. His form looks nice to me, I think he will be better than Dante was in that regard and possibly pretty good. Certainly no Ray Allen, though.

[Colbinii]

Who should the Timberwolves being looking at for #19?

Needs include PG, Larger Wing Project and Back-up Center.

[BlazersBroncos]

Who should the Timberwolves being looking at for #19?

Needs include PG, Larger Wing Project and Back-up Center.

PG class is so poop they would probably have to reach at 19. Tons of big wings - Kendall Brown might be there.

I like EJ Liddell as a pairing w/ KAT personally.

[clyde21]

Who should the Timberwolves being looking at for #19?

Needs include PG, Larger Wing Project and Back-up Center.

this is a terrible PG class, no true PGs will be available worth the pick at that point but I like Dalen Terry as a potential secondary ballhandler in the league with some size.

back up big Kessler starts making sense at 19, maybe Koloko range but probably a bit of a reach still at that point.

[SelfishPlayer]

Anyone that can get you 7 assists per game with the ball in their hands is a point guard/lead ball handler these days. With that being the case Bennedict Mathurin needs to be thrown into that group, but he also may be a lead scorer as well. I never read anyone discuss unearthing scorers out of the draft anymore. The focus seems to revolve around 3 and D players and playmakers, but not who projects to be outright cold blooded scorers who create for themselves and close games.

There has been 98 guards/wing 1st round picks drafted since 2008 with an assist rate equal to or below Mathurin. Only 5 of them have even topped 5apg in a single season of their career , and only one, Jimmy Butler, has touched 7 apg.

Why do you think he’s a 7 apg guy? His handle is pretty weak and he has very little shift. He’s basically a straight line driver at this point. He played a little bit of pnr this season and was ok as the handler but I definitely don’t see how he would be projected as a lead ball handler

WTF at using college stats to project NBA production.

[SeattleJazzFan]

Is there an injury risk you’re aware of, or are you just stating the blatantly obvious? Any prospect can get derailed by constant injuries.

Then there’s also the fact that Daniels and Exum are quite dissimilar. Daniels is less of an athlete and more of an actual basketball player.

They are the same, Australian tall point guards. Exum was never good enough.

I've watched a lot of Dante Exum, they do not play similarly at all. Dante could do two things on offense, run a PnR and throw a nice lob, or run the PnR and get to the rim. Dyson is so much more advanced in his feel for the game, his passing, his shooting, and is a bit better defensively (where Dante was pretty good). Doesn't have quite the same first step, but I think he'll be a lot more successful pro.

yet nobody. i mean nobody was saying that about exum pre-draft. there is a reason he was a consensus top 7 (at worst) pick in that draft. people were saying a lot of the same things about exum as they are saying about daniels, if not more glowing about exum.

[clyde21]

Dyson doesn't have a high floor. He can rather easily be the next Dante Exum.

Is there an injury risk you’re aware of, or are you just stating the blatantly obvious? Any prospect can get derailed by constant injuries.

Then there’s also the fact that Daniels and Exum are quite dissimilar. Daniels is less of an athlete and more of an actual basketball player.

They are the same, Australian tall point guards. Exum was never good enough.

so both are tall and australian so that means Dyson is Exum?

[K_chile22]

Is there an injury risk you’re aware of, or are you just stating the blatantly obvious? Any prospect can get derailed by constant injuries.

Then there’s also the fact that Daniels and Exum are quite dissimilar. Daniels is less of an athlete and more of an actual basketball player.

They are the same, Australian tall point guards. Exum was never good enough.

so both are tall and australian so that means Dyson is Exum?

Same logic as Sengun=Kanter we saw from people last year

[SelfishPlayer]

Andrew Nembhard isn't an exciting PG prospect but he is obviously very good. He produces assists with low turnovers, very good free throw shooting, and shoots the three ball from the NCAA/FIBA line very well. Usually guys like him lack size and/or shooting. He could be an overlooked Fred VanVleet and go undrafted or Derrick White and someone sees first round value in him. He has clear value in getting the ball in the hands of talented NBA players that aren't facilitators/creators for teammates.