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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#681 » by mjkvol » Sun Jul 6, 2025 1:02 am

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I guess all I’m saying is that given their very similar skillsets, it’s not hard at all to envision Grimes putting up similar (if not better) stats to Nembhard in a playoff situation. Of course the reality is he hasn’t done it, but only because he hasn’t gotten the opportunity IMO. So we can’t say for certain, but I feel there’s really no reason to believe he couldn’t.


A lot of players have similar skills sets to others and never achieve anything close to what those others do. It's about more than a pure skill set or counting stats, but I'm sure you already know that. Andrew Nembhard has proven himself to be the kind of 2-way player that contending teams will covet, a defensive stopper you can put on the league MVP, while Grimes has posted nice numbers in a tank commander role.

Is Grimes worth $15 mil? I suppose in this market he is, and a 4/60 type of deal is one you can probably move if he doesn't turn out to be what his skill set indicates he could become, but I'm not ready to compare him to a guy who has already shown that his performance rises as the games get bigger.

You pretty much repeated what I already said. Players are compared all the time, that’s what we do as fans during the dog days of sunmer. Of course no situation is 1 to 1, that’s stating the obvious. Hell, there are people here who were quick to compare Maxey to like Damian Lillard, a top 75 player of all time, despite him not having anywhere near the accolades or individual playoff success. And just as they weren’t necessarily wrong for doing so, we’re only talking about Andrew frickin’ Nembhard here, so let’s not get carried away.


Comparing Maxey to Lillard in his prime is asinine, and while it might not be to that degree, comparing Grimes in any way to Andrew "frickin'" Nembhard right now is ridiculous, dog days of summer or not. Do you think anyone in their right mind would be wrestling with the idea of giving Nembhard 4/60, or even 4/100 right now? We know what Nembhard is, and while Grimes might have some similar skills, he's a blank slate with regard to producing in meaningful situations.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#682 » by zaz102 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 3:57 am

Feels like Grimes is in a tough spot.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#683 » by LeTimmAy » Sun Jul 6, 2025 6:39 am

Whitmore for 2 2nds, would have liked to see him here for that package. But yeah we could Not trade into Cap space i know.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#684 » by phillynative » Sun Jul 6, 2025 11:42 am

I wonder how much Morey is low balling Grimes. Not saying he should get what he want though . A S&T may be the best bet
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#685 » by M2J » Sun Jul 6, 2025 11:49 am

phillynative wrote:I wonder how much Morey is low balling Grimes. Not saying he should get what he want though . A S&T may be the best bet


Grimes for Kuminga?
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#686 » by FireMorey » Sun Jul 6, 2025 4:17 pm

With Yabu saying the Sixers totally lowballed him and offered him very little money, it makes even less sense that they didn't trade him at the trade deadline. I just don't get Morey sometimes. And yes, I know they couldn't pay him the full TPMLE it would've hard capped them, but the thing is, that only matters if you SIGN your deal. They could have offered him the TPMLE, and verbally agreed to it, and just waited to sign it until after Grimes was signed. Kinda like Maxey did last year. He agreed to the max, but didn't sign it until after the Sixers did everything else. And I think Yabu would've went for that considering he really liked his time here.

It's pretty clear that the Sixers just didn't want him back, which makes not trading him puzzling.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#687 » by NYSixersFan » Sun Jul 6, 2025 4:43 pm

We cut Jared Butler so we can re-sign Lowry?
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#688 » by Negrodamus » Sun Jul 6, 2025 4:46 pm

FireMorey wrote:With Yabu saying the Sixers totally lowballed him and offered him very little money, it makes even less sense that they didn't trade him at the trade deadline. I just don't get Morey sometimes. And yes, I know they couldn't pay him the full TPMLE it would've hard capped them, but the thing is, that only matters if you SIGN your deal. They could have offered him the TPMLE, and verbally agreed to it, and just waited to sign it until after Grimes was signed. Kinda like Maxey did last year. He agreed to the max, but didn't sign it until after the Sixers did everything else. And I think Yabu would've went for that considering he really liked his time here.

It's pretty clear that the Sixers just didn't want him back, which makes not trading him puzzling.


Morey was still interested in the playoff race at the trade deadline.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#689 » by Iverson Armband » Sun Jul 6, 2025 5:06 pm

mjkvol wrote:
Iverson Armband wrote:
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A lot of players have similar skills sets to others and never achieve anything close to what those others do. It's about more than a pure skill set or counting stats, but I'm sure you already know that. Andrew Nembhard has proven himself to be the kind of 2-way player that contending teams will covet, a defensive stopper you can put on the league MVP, while Grimes has posted nice numbers in a tank commander role.

Is Grimes worth $15 mil? I suppose in this market he is, and a 4/60 type of deal is one you can probably move if he doesn't turn out to be what his skill set indicates he could become, but I'm not ready to compare him to a guy who has already shown that his performance rises as the games get bigger.

You pretty much repeated what I already said. Players are compared all the time, that’s what we do as fans during the dog days of sunmer. Of course no situation is 1 to 1, that’s stating the obvious. Hell, there are people here who were quick to compare Maxey to like Damian Lillard, a top 75 player of all time, despite him not having anywhere near the accolades or individual playoff success. And just as they weren’t necessarily wrong for doing so, we’re only talking about Andrew frickin’ Nembhard here, so let’s not get carried away.


Comparing Maxey to Lillard in his prime is asinine, and while it might not be to that degree, comparing Grimes in any way to Andrew "frickin'" Nembhard right now is ridiculous, dog days of summer or not. Do you think anyone in their right mind would be wrestling with the idea of giving Nembhard 4/60, or even 4/100 right now? We know what Nembhard is, and while Grimes might have some similar skills, he's a blank slate with regard to producing in meaningful situations.

Grimes, unfortunately, is a FA before we can see him in a playoff setting so some projecting needs to be made. Pretty standard stuff here.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#690 » by FireMorey » Sun Jul 6, 2025 7:43 pm

Apparently Sixers re-signing Lowry is imminent.

Worst news: VJ has to keep #77 until he's gone.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#691 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun Jul 6, 2025 7:53 pm

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phillynative wrote:I wonder how much Morey is low balling Grimes. Not saying he should get what he want though . A S&T may be the best bet


Grimes for Kuminga?


In a heartbeat, but it doesn't work since we'd be hard-capped at the 1st apron. Plus, Kuminga likely starts at about $5-10 mil more than Grimes.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#692 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun Jul 6, 2025 8:12 pm

FireMorey wrote:Apparently Sixers re-signing Lowry is imminent.

Worst news: VJ has to keep #77 until he's gone.


Don't mind this, because I think he actually has a rapport with McCain. Gordon is the signing that doesn't make sense.

Either way, I hope they don't see a single minute of playing time outside of garbage time and injury/rest nights.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#693 » by Embiid-MVP » Sun Jul 6, 2025 8:40 pm

FireMorey wrote:With Yabu saying the Sixers totally lowballed him and offered him very little money, it makes even less sense that they didn't trade him at the trade deadline. I just don't get Morey sometimes. And yes, I know they couldn't pay him the full TPMLE it would've hard capped them, but the thing is, that only matters if you SIGN your deal. They could have offered him the TPMLE, and verbally agreed to it, and just waited to sign it until after Grimes was signed. Kinda like Maxey did last year. He agreed to the max, but didn't sign it until after the Sixers did everything else. And I think Yabu would've went for that considering he really liked his time here.

It's pretty clear that the Sixers just didn't want him back, which makes not trading him puzzling.


I think they did want him back but when Grimes played awesome it changed their plans rather quickly. It was far too late by then. They literally made moves that indicated they want him back including the Grimes trade. They opened up money for him. Like I just said it changed after the deadline
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#694 » by Embiid-MVP » Sun Jul 6, 2025 8:42 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:
FireMorey wrote:Apparently Sixers re-signing Lowry is imminent.

Worst news: VJ has to keep #77 until he's gone.


Don't mind this, because I think he actually has a rapport with McCain. Gordon is the signing that doesn't make sense.

Either way, I hope they don't see a single minute of playing time outside of garbage time and injury/rest nights.


Gordon was gonna opt in but supposedly they asked him to decline to lower the cap number so it was a very small win for the 6ers. So it does make sense. We at least got relief to the cap
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#695 » by NYSixersFan » Sun Jul 6, 2025 9:19 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:
FireMorey wrote:Apparently Sixers re-signing Lowry is imminent.

Worst news: VJ has to keep #77 until he's gone.


Don't mind this, because I think he actually has a rapport with McCain. Gordon is the signing that doesn't make sense.

Either way, I hope they don't see a single minute of playing time outside of garbage time and injury/rest nights.


Hire him as an assistant coach. Absolutely no reason to waste a roster spot on him.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#696 » by Stanford » Sun Jul 6, 2025 9:37 pm

This Lowry news makes me sick!
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#697 » by sixers hoops » Sun Jul 6, 2025 9:55 pm

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FireMorey wrote:With Yabu saying the Sixers totally lowballed him and offered him very little money, it makes even less sense that they didn't trade him at the trade deadline. I just don't get Morey sometimes. And yes, I know they couldn't pay him the full TPMLE it would've hard capped them, but the thing is, that only matters if you SIGN your deal. They could have offered him the TPMLE, and verbally agreed to it, and just waited to sign it until after Grimes was signed. Kinda like Maxey did last year. He agreed to the max, but didn't sign it until after the Sixers did everything else. And I think Yabu would've went for that considering he really liked his time here.

It's pretty clear that the Sixers just didn't want him back, which makes not trading him puzzling.


Morey was still interested in the playoff race at the trade deadline.


Then he is an even bigger fool, because they were around 20-30 and Embiid just came off of missing 15 games. I knew at that time that they weren’t re-signing Yabu due to the hard capping issue and needed to trade him.

Big mistake by Morey. And the other report at the time was that GS wanted PG but Morey only wanted to trade him for very good value. If he had a chance to dump PG and passed on it, then he really really lacks foresight.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#698 » by blargh » Sun Jul 6, 2025 9:56 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:
FireMorey wrote:Apparently Sixers re-signing Lowry is imminent.

Worst news: VJ has to keep #77 until he's gone.


Don't mind this, because I think he actually has a rapport with McCain. Gordon is the signing that doesn't make sense.


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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#699 » by Iscull » Sun Jul 6, 2025 9:56 pm

Lowry should be living in Florida playing golf for a living, not competing for a playoff spot
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#700 » by Skates » Sun Jul 6, 2025 10:03 pm

VJ could be Gordon's rookie the way McCain had Lowry as a mentor last year. Agree that Lowry has a place, on the coaching staff.

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