Trade & Free Agency Ideas & Discussion 2

[bwgood77]

We really only have Bledsoe and Ulis, and who knows if Bledsoe will still be on the roster when the season starts. Mike James is good. I like this.

He has a decent chance to make the roster especially if Knight is traded . Barbosa probably is back - very decent deal for what he brings.

As for the Griffin and Ringer article - he would be enticing on this roster. Say goodbye to Alex Len and maybe Sauce

Its a long shot.

Hey, quit trying to get rid of Big Sauce!!! j/k

He's a fan favorite in much the same way Tucker is, the difference being PJ's mom isn't the Head Cop and Alan doesn't have a drinking problem (that we know of). Oh, and he smiles, a lot. I don't know what he's worth in wins and losses but he's worth his weight in gold for his cheerleading skills if nothing else. Last year, we almost always played better the instant he took the court. That was probably a mirage brought on by lack of scouting but still, his energy and his positivity are not to be taken lightly IMO.

Yeah, I think Williams is back barring a pretty good offer we wouldn't want to match, and then he still might be back for less, because he loves the team and his mom is here. If he gets like 7-10 for 4 years that might be tough to match, and it might be hard to give up the money though. He may get more than Len offered if he gets an offer in FA. I wouldn't be surprised if Len doesn't get an offer. I still think if we can keep them both for less than 14 or so, we should, unless they are both deals that last longer than a couple years.

[carey]

The Rockets have Ryan Anderson - but that deal is horrible - but I am sure they would love to get rid of it - but the Suns better not do that

Holy smokes. I hadn't realized that Houston gave him $20M/yr.

[Mr Puddles]

I'm hoping the Suns put a plan in place to make a big free agency push in 2019:
- Chandler, Bledsoe, Dudley have all expired by then. Knight will be in the last year of his contract which makes him easier to move if needed.
- Good looking free agent class: http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2019/
- This gives us two more years to rebuild, with 3 first rounders - and then build a team for the long term.

Any free agent signing, therefore, should be no more than a 2-year deal. Same goes with Len, I'd rather pay him 10 mil a year on a 2-year deal, than 8 mil per on a 4-year deal (or at least a team option in year 3).

The only way for the Suns to mess up this offseason, is if they commit long term overpay to a guy in or past his prime (e.g. a 4-5 year commitment to Paul Millsap).

[WeekapaugGroove]

I'm hoping the Suns put a plan in place to make a big free agency push in 2019:
- Chandler, Bledsoe, Dudley have all expired by then. Knight will be in the last year of his contract which makes him easier to move if needed.
- Good looking free agent class: http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2019/
- This gives us two more years to rebuild, with 3 first rounders - and then build a team for the long term.

Any free agent signing, therefore, should be no more than a 2-year deal. Same goes with Len, I'd rather pay him 10 mil a year on a 2-year deal, than 8 mil per on a 4-year deal (or at least a team option in year 3).

The only way for the Suns to mess up this offseason, is if they commit long term overpay to a guy in or past his prime (e.g. a 4-5 year commitment to Paul Millsap).

I agree and this is why I'd prefer they solve their center situation this summer with a short deal. Every little bit counts, keep that cap sheet clean. If the young dudes have progressed Phoenix could be a favorable destination that summer and this is when you splurge on a guy or two to put them over the top.

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[jredsaz]

I'm hoping the Suns put a plan in place to make a big free agency push in 2019:
- Chandler, Bledsoe, Dudley have all expired by then. Knight will be in the last year of his contract which makes him easier to move if needed.
- Good looking free agent class: http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2019/
- This gives us two more years to rebuild, with 3 first rounders - and then build a team for the long term.

Any free agent signing, therefore, should be no more than a 2-year deal. Same goes with Len, I'd rather pay him 10 mil a year on a 2-year deal, than 8 mil per on a 4-year deal (or at least a team option in year 3).

The only way for the Suns to mess up this offseason, is if they commit long term overpay to a guy in or past his prime (e.g. a 4-5 year commitment to Paul Millsap).

I'm pretty excited about a couple players on this list. But LeBron, Westbrook, and George will all be on long-term deals by that point. LMA and Carmelo will be old. Wall and Klay are guys to want for sure. Also think Tobias Harris is going to get better and Jordan is a multiple time all star.

But that free agent class would not preclude me from making an offer for Griffin this year or Cousins next year.


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[GoblinytE]

F-this! I want Millsap. Watching the playoffs made me impatient. Someone needs to compete against the Warriors..i know there are a couple teams that are really good..well last year was a Knightmare..Ayton or Mamba is all im looking at..its gonna take top 3-5 pick..no thanks...stupid fn timeline, cmon...think of Al...think of the fight of KJ-Majerle-Hornacek-Chambers...we dont tank, we did it last year and we lucked out...what turned the corner in 92' was that we got a closer (Chuckster)...what gave 7 seconds or less its exclamation was a closer named (STAT)...Im done with Len...give the money to Sauce and lets give our young fowards an actual allstar, second team all defense...Watson knows him from his Utah time i believe...we got his bro here and his other bro playing in Hermosillo-Mexico in the Mexican league...(yes i know our run with bros aint that great)...sorry for the longwindedness...Bledsoe-Booker-Jackson-Millsap-Chriss //Warren 6th man Ulis-Reed-JonesJr-Bender-Chandler-Williams-Dudley-Peters

[Kerrsed]

I'm hoping the Suns put a plan in place to make a big free agency push in 2019:
- Chandler, Bledsoe, Dudley have all expired by then. Knight will be in the last year of his contract which makes him easier to move if needed.
- Good looking free agent class: http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2019/
- This gives us two more years to rebuild, with 3 first rounders - and then build a team for the long term.

Any free agent signing, therefore, should be no more than a 2-year deal. Same goes with Len, I'd rather pay him 10 mil a year on a 2-year deal, than 8 mil per on a 4-year deal (or at least a team option in year 3).

The only way for the Suns to mess up this offseason, is if they commit long term overpay to a guy in or past his prime (e.g. a 4-5 year commitment to Paul Millsap).

As was already mentioned, that list is rather weak. You have Lebron, who i believe will keep signing these 2 year deals, Westbrook is going to get maxed out in OKC, PG13 wants to be in LA (Unless he gets traded to a real contender and that changes his mind). Bosh/Melo/Aldridge/Howard/Parsons/Matthews, No thanks. Jordan? Ehh....

Wall and Klay are the only real interesting names that might be SOMEWHAT attainable, but honestly, i dont see GS giving up on Klay (or vice-versa), and what would we do with both Klay AND Booker? Wall, sure, go after him, but i dont see him going from a playoff team in the East like the Wizards to a bottom feeder in the West. You have to grab players that already have shown interest in our team to help lure the big name FA's.

So yeah....the 2019 FA class would definitely not stop me from going after Blake Griffin at all. I think there could be a good possibility that he would sign here, and i think our team would greatly benefit from him being here. We win more games, have a real star player, and increase our name in the league and help draw players (Like Wall) into maybe being more interested than they currently are.

2018: Bledsoe/Booker/JJ/Blake/Chriss
2019: Wall/Booker/JJ/Blake/Chriss

[Kerrsed]

Any shot we had at Porzingis is now gone.

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Unless....maybe they hire David Griffin?

Maybe they hire him to help lure Lebron to NY? They can then keep Melo and go after Chris Paul in FA, with Lebron joining after next season.

Who knows in this crazy-ass league anymore!

[Saberestar]

Mike James is headed to the Phoenix Suns.

The combo guard spent this past season with Panathinaikos which offered him a contract extension.
But James decided to make the jump overseas.

http://www.sportando.com/en/usa/nba/238762/mike-james-on-his-way-to-the-phoenix-suns.html

So it seems that Mike James is our first FA signing.

I like him a lot as our third PG, he defends really hard and he makes a little bit of everything on offense.

[Dubcity33]

Stop trolling - Qwigglez

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I wouldn't know what to do in your miserable situation. I mean you can tank but you draft terribly. No one wants to come to your sorry team because well why would they? You guys are in the doldrums for years to come I'm afraid lol.

[thamadkant]

I wouldn't know what to do in your miserable situation. I mean you can tank but you draft terribly. No one wants to come to your sorry team because well why would they? You guys are in the doldrums for years to come I'm afraid lol.

Love you long time

[NTB]

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[sunskerr]

I wouldn't know what to do in your miserable situation. I mean you can tank but you draft terribly. No one wants to come to your sorry team because well why would they? You guys are in the doldrums for years to come I'm afraid lol.

Joined: Jun 24, 2017
Warriors fan.

[bwgood77]

I wouldn't know what to do in your miserable situation. I mean you can tank but you draft terribly. No one wants to come to your sorry team because well why would they? You guys are in the doldrums for years to come I'm afraid lol.

Joined: Jun 24, 2017
Warriors fan.

By the time I went in to put in ban request there were already two requests, based on his 5 posts. Neither were Suns mods. It's Warriors Fan 33/44/JohnWall2

[batsmasher]

I'm more excited for Mike James than I am for our two 2nd round picks, and that's not a diss on them.

Thought we would have at least thrown some guaranteed money to him after the 15' SL. Maybe we did, and there was more money to be had overseas.

Really hoping for at least a partial guarantee on the deal. I think he can make it on our roster- particularly if we choose not to guarantee LB's money.

[BobbieL]

He has a decent chance to make the roster especially if Knight is traded . Barbosa probably is back - very decent deal for what he brings.

As for the Griffin and Ringer article - he would be enticing on this roster. Say goodbye to Alex Len and maybe Sauce

Its a long shot.

Hey, quit trying to get rid of Big Sauce!!! j/k

He's a fan favorite in much the same way Tucker is, the difference being PJ's mom isn't the Head Cop and Alan doesn't have a drinking problem (that we know of). Oh, and he smiles, a lot. I don't know what he's worth in wins and losses but he's worth his weight in gold for his cheerleading skills if nothing else. Last year, we almost always played better the instant he took the court. That was probably a mirage brought on by lack of scouting but still, his energy and his positivity are not to be taken lightly IMO.

Yeah, I think Williams is back barring a pretty good offer we wouldn't want to match, and then he still might be back for less, because he loves the team and his mom is here. If he gets like 7-10 for 4 years that might be tough to match, and it might be hard to give up the money though. He may get more than Len offered if he gets an offer in FA. I wouldn't be surprised if Len doesn't get an offer. I still think if we can keep them both for less than 14 or so, we should, unless they are both deals that last longer than a couple years.

I was only giving up Sauce if the team signed Blake. I doubt the team signs Blake. I think Blake goes back to the Clippers when CP 3 leaves - if he leaves. That Ryan Anderson deal is horrible - but per the SteinLine, looks like if the King strike out - they might take it. I still like the Barbosa for Beveryly by this Friday. I know that's rough on LB - traded to Houston and given a 500k bonus and not 4m - but Beverly would be a solid back, strong defender, especially if Knight is let go or traded (Bledsoe, Booker, Ulis, Beverly, Reed - James -- ). Granted, you are adding 5m of cap space that could be used for Blake but not sure you can count on him

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19754916/houston-rockets-emerge-serious-contenders-chris-paul-la-clippers

I would actually bring back Sauce if the dollars are right over a guy like Len. I hate to give up on Len but maybe he comes back too

As for the forward coming back - I like Taj Gibson since my LMA for Dudley deal will not happen if CP3 goes to Houston and the Spurs do not need cap space. Not like it ever was

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[BobbieL]

Reading Bickley - talking about Blake Griffin to the Suns. I know its a long shot but he is only 28. The injury prone thing is not good but maybe in Phoenix - he won't hit people after a night at the bar. But the deal would be 4 years/130. I think the 4 years because Chandler, and Dudley are off the books after year 2 so only Booker really kicks in, maybe Bledsoe. After year 3, that is when Chriss, Bender kick in and Knight should be off the books. And year, 4, well, Jackson kicks in. So it could be managed. But to do it

Len would have to be renounced but you keep Sauce and Chandler for their rebounding as Blake needs somebody to board
Barbosa waived by this Friday if they are SERIOUS about making a run
I still think that leaves the team a little short unless you got Knights contract off the books

I wonder if this could be a three team sign and trade
Knight to Philly
Okafor to the Clippers with Warren and a couple first rounders from Phoenix. The better of the Miami/Phoenix pick in 2018 and another future first rounder.
Griffin to the Suns

The Clippers get a PF to replace Okafor, a young player in Warren for the SF (unless they truly want Bender or Chriss - I am not stopping the deal, but NO to Josh Jackson - NO to JJ) and a couple of picks. Heck, the Clippers could have Derrick Jones Jr too

[bwgood77]

Reading Bickley - talking about Blake Griffin to the Suns. I know its a long shot but he is only 28. The injury prone thing is not good but maybe in Phoenix - he won't hit people after a night at the bar. But the deal would be 4 years/130. I think the 4 years because Chandler, and Dudley are off the books after year 2 so only Booker really kicks in, maybe Bledsoe. After year 3, that is when Chriss, Bender kick in and Knight should be off the books. And year, 4, well, Jackson kicks in. So it could be managed. But to do it

Len would have to be renounced but you keep Sauce and Chandler for their rebounding as Blake needs somebody to board
Barbosa waived by this Friday if they are SERIOUS about making a run
I still think that leaves the team a little short unless you got Knights contract off the books

I wonder if this could be a three team sign and trade
Knight to Philly
Okafor to the Clippers with Warren and a couple first rounders from Phoenix. The better of the Miami/Phoenix pick in 2018 and another future first rounder.
Griffin to the Suns

The Clippers get a PF to replace Okafor, a young player in Warren for the SF (unless they truly want Bender or Chriss - I am not stopping the deal, but NO to Josh Jackson - NO to JJ) and a couple of picks. Heck, the Clippers could have Derrick Jones Jr too

Why would we do a sign and trade and send out a couple of picks and Warren when we can sign him outright? If he wants the max it would likely take far less than that. What did we get when we sign and traded Amare? I know we got a lot for JJ but he was a RFA and we could have just matched so we had leverage. Not that I really want Blake anyway.

[Qwigglez]

Yes we could just sign Blake outright, I believe the Clippers don't have any leverage as he hasn't made an All-NBA team in the past two years or something like that. I would sign him and fly to Arizona to watch his comedy act if he performs another one.