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Klomp wrote:I like Garland's skillset, but the height thing has me slightly concerned. What if he's more Jeff Teague than Kyrie Irving as a smaller PG?

It’s not really a worry to me with how the rules are nowadays. You can’t really get physical on the perimeter so that will benefit him. Teague would be a way a bigger threat if he wasn’t so reluctant to shoot the 3. Garland has already shown at a young age that he’s more than comfortable from shooting from deep

Neeva wrote:Not only that he was originally a san jose state signee, he’s just another overperforming undersized and older college player, picking him top ten over some of the younger guys with superstar/all star potential who have yet to mature like Clarke will be incredibly shortsighted.
We need to shoot for a possible super star not a possible solid role player especially if we see this as the Last time in the lottery for the franchise for the rest of Kat’s tenure here.

wesleyt95 wrote:

KGdaBom wrote:It's been so long since I watched Aaron Gordon's college performance honestly I don't remember it. I'm pretty sure Gordon didn't put up anywhere near the defensive numbers that Clarke did. I just commented that if Clarke can be similar to Gordon on offense he will be much better than Gordon due to superior defense. Clarke averages 5.4 stocks per 36. That is incredible defensive production.

He played in a weak conference and will be undersized nearly every night at PF with no 3 pt range, he’s basically just an effort guy. I’m starting to think u are just saying random names at this point to justify, his offensive repertoire is nowhere near Aaron Gordon. We could get that same skill set in the 2nd round or elsewhere but we’d be foolish to waste a lotto pick on that. He’s a glue guy, we need more than that right now.... like a STAR

Neeva this role player vs superstar talk is just a lot of BS IMO. Clarke is the player who put up the superstar numbers. The only division one player who could possibly be argued for putting up better numbers is Zion. Who you want Kevin Porter WTF man. Clarke is one of the absolute best players in this draft with a very high floor and an extremely high ceiling. If he develops a reliable three point shot he will be a perennial all star. These guys you are calling superstar and all star ain't $hit. I'm so sick of people calling players role players as a way to knock them down. We went over this when Covington joined the team. Every player has a role so every player is a role player.

Brandon Clarke has no post game, no three point shot, no handles and he’s only 6’8 and 22 yo... his only way of scoring in the beginning will be off putbacks lol there’s nothing pretty about his game at all, and he’s too short to be a shotblocking threat and he was playing C those numbers will not translate... get that thru your head, I’m literally gonna remind you of this a year from now

wesleyt95 wrote:Brandon Clarke has no post game, no three point shot, no handles and he’s only 6’8 and 22 yo... his only way of scoring in the beginning will be off putbacks lol there’s nothing pretty about his game at all, and he’s too short to be a shotblocking threat and he was playing C those numbers will not translate... get that thru your head, I’m literally gonna remind you of this a year from now

I agree with this..he's a backup energy bigman, a more disciplined Faried..you don't take that with a top 10 pick

wesleyt95 wrote:Brandon Clarke has no post game, no three point shot, no handles and he’s only 6’8 and 22 yo... his only way of scoring in the beginning will be off putbacks lol there’s nothing pretty about his game at all, and he’s too short to be a shotblocking threat and he was playing C those numbers will not translate... get that thru your head, I’m literally gonna remind you of this a year from now

First of all most of what you say is wrong. He has an excellent post game. He has very nice handles for a 6'8" forward. His game is pretty as hell. He will block two shots a game his rookie year if he gets minutes. Please remind me of this a year from now, but I doubt that you will.

KGdaBom wrote:

wesleyt95 wrote:Brandon Clarke has no post game, no three point shot, no handles and he’s only 6’8 and 22 yo... his only way of scoring in the beginning will be off putbacks lol there’s nothing pretty about his game at all, and he’s too short to be a shotblocking threat and he was playing C those numbers will not translate... get that thru your head, I’m literally gonna remind you of this a year from now

First of all most of what you say is wrong. He has an excellent post game. He has very nice handles for a 6'8" forward. His game is pretty as hell. He will block two shots a game his rookie year if he gets minutes. Please remind me of this a year from now, but I doubt that you will.

I’m just gonna assume u have him mixed up with Hachimura, goodnight man god bless I’m praying for u

wesleyt95 wrote:

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I’m not saying he will be as dominant but at the very least he’s cut from the same cloth

Looks like the skills are there. The shooting numbers appear to be there. FG% 53.7, FG3% 47.8, eFG% 63.9

Need to ask his coach and interview him to see if the carry you on his back heart is there. Does he have any hints in games where he showed that?

The Rose game against Jazz this year.
The crazy Mamba final game against the Jazz his last day.
Lots of examples out there. Rose is the only thing I've seen around here like it.

Different players later in career after injuries and they still want to prove it. They never lose that. If only it was easy to spot before the draft.

Neeva wrote:Not only that he was originally a san jose state signee, he’s just another overperforming undersized and older college player, picking him top ten over some of the younger guys with superstar/all star potential who have yet to mature like Clarke will be incredibly shortsighted.

Just like drafting 22-year old CJ McCollum from Lehigh, 22-year old Damian Lillard from Weber State and 21-year old Stephen Curry from Davidson. Obviously none of them had all-star potential and all should be considered major busts as Top 10 picks. It would be shortsighted to draft those overperformers over future superstars like Tyreke Evans, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Ben McLemore.

wesleyt95 wrote:

KGdaBom wrote:

wesleyt95 wrote:Brandon Clarke has no post game, no three point shot, no handles and he’s only 6’8 and 22 yo... his only way of scoring in the beginning will be off putbacks lol there’s nothing pretty about his game at all, and he’s too short to be a shotblocking threat and he was playing C those numbers will not translate... get that thru your head, I’m literally gonna remind you of this a year from now

First of all most of what you say is wrong. He has an excellent post game. He has very nice handles for a 6'8" forward. His game is pretty as hell. He will block two shots a game his rookie year if he gets minutes. Please remind me of this a year from now, but I doubt that you will.

I’m just gonna assume u have him mixed up with Hachimura, goodnight man god bless I’m praying for u

I never mind somebody praying for me as long as it's with a pure heart and good intentions. Anything you need prayer for?

Klomp wrote:

Neeva wrote:Not only that he was originally a san jose state signee, he’s just another overperforming undersized and older college player, picking him top ten over some of the younger guys with superstar/all star potential who have yet to mature like Clarke will be incredibly shortsighted.

Just like drafting 22-year old CJ McCollum from Lehigh, 22-year old Damian Lillard from Weber State and 21-year old Stephen Curry from Davidson. Obviously none of them had all-star potential and all should be considered major busts as Top 10 picks. It would be shortsighted to draft those overperformers over future superstars like Tyreke Evans, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Ben McLemore.

Post of the day Klomp. I think the anti-Clarke talk here is simply a lot of nonsense.

Oh please they all had an elite skill which clarke does not! Nor did they have to transfer to Gonzaga to get noticed or play in the ncaa tournament! I would be fine with clarke in the late teeens but not top ten. hope the wizards take him.

Klomp wrote:

Neeva wrote:Not only that he was originally a san jose state signee, he’s just another overperforming undersized and older college player, picking him top ten over some of the younger guys with superstar/all star potential who have yet to mature like Clarke will be incredibly shortsighted.

Just like drafting 22-year old CJ McCollum from Lehigh, 22-year old Damian Lillard from Weber State and 21-year old Stephen Curry from Davidson. Obviously none of them had all-star potential and all should be considered major busts as Top 10 picks. It would be shortsighted to draft those overperformers over future superstars like Tyreke Evans, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Ben McLemore.

KGdaBom wrote:

wesleyt95 wrote:

KGdaBom wrote:First of all most of what you say is wrong. He has an excellent post game. He has very nice handles for a 6'8" forward. His game is pretty as hell. He will block two shots a game his rookie year if he gets minutes. Please remind me of this a year from now, but I doubt that you will.

I’m just gonna assume u have him mixed up with Hachimura, goodnight man god bless I’m praying for u

I never mind somebody praying for me as long as it's with a pure heart and good intentions. Anything you need prayer for?

Yes pray for me brother, never hurts anything

Neeva wrote:Oh please they all had an elite skill which clarke does not! Nor did they have to transfer to Gonzaga to get noticed or play in the ncaa tournament! I would be fine with clarke in the late teeens but not top ten. hope the wizards take him.

Klomp wrote:

Neeva wrote:Not only that he was originally a san jose state signee, he’s just another overperforming undersized and older college player, picking him top ten over some of the younger guys with superstar/all star potential who have yet to mature like Clarke will be incredibly shortsighted.

Just like drafting 22-year old CJ McCollum from Lehigh, 22-year old Damian Lillard from Weber State and 21-year old Stephen Curry from Davidson. Obviously none of them had all-star potential and all should be considered major busts as Top 10 picks. It would be shortsighted to draft those overperformers over future superstars like Tyreke Evans, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Ben McLemore.

1. Clarke is an elite finisher at the rim: 79.7%.
2. Clarke is an elite defender (on/off the ball) and shot blocker: 3.9 per 36.

Fun fact: Clarke blocked more shots than he missed in 2018-2919.

SmokeyPaw wrote:

Neeva wrote:Oh please they all had an elite skill which clarke does not! Nor did they have to transfer to Gonzaga to get noticed or play in the ncaa tournament! I would be fine with clarke in the late teeens but not top ten. hope the wizards take him.

Klomp wrote:Just like drafting 22-year old CJ McCollum from Lehigh, 22-year old Damian Lillard from Weber State and 21-year old Stephen Curry from Davidson. Obviously none of them had all-star potential and all should be considered major busts as Top 10 picks. It would be shortsighted to draft those overperformers over future superstars like Tyreke Evans, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Ben McLemore.

1. Clarke is an elite finisher at the rim: 79.7%.
2. Clarke is an elite defender (on/off the ball) and shot blocker: 3.9 per 36.

Fun fact: Clarke blocked more shots than he missed in 2018-2919.

That is the freak stat of all freak stats. More blocked shots than missed shots for a guy who actually took a decent amount of shots. So he clearly has elite skills as in more than one. What's the next piece of misinformation someone will try spreading about him?

I know this is probably an unpopular opinion, but I like where we're at on the wing. Sure there's always room for improvement, but I'm comfortable going into next season with the group of Wiggins, Covington, Okogie, Bates-Diop and Reynolds.

Center is just fine as-is too with Towns and Dieng.

That leaves PG and PF as the positions to look at. Both spots have multiple free agents, and will go into summer with just one guy under contract. These are the spots we probably should be focusing on.

So who are the likely contenders at each position?
PG: Garland, White
PF: Doumbouya, Clarke, Hachimura, Washington, Bol

Klomp wrote:I know this is probably an unpopular opinion, but I like where we're at on the wing. Sure there's always room for improvement, but I'm comfortable going into next season with the group of Wiggins, Covington, Okogie, Bates-Diop and Reynolds.

Center is just fine as-is too with Towns and Dieng.

That leaves PG and PF as the positions to look at. Both spots have multiple free agents, and will go into summer with just one guy under contract. These are the spots we probably should be focusing on.

So who are the likely contenders at each position?
PG: Garland, White
PF: Doumbouya, Clarke, Hachimura, Washington, Bol

If we re-sign Tyus longterm, then I feel good about Nickeil Alexander-Walker as backup comboguard. I know it is very risky to compare NAW to Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, but he looks good slashing, finishing at rim and shooting 3s.

minimus wrote:

Klomp wrote:I know this is probably an unpopular opinion, but I like where we're at on the wing. Sure there's always room for improvement, but I'm comfortable going into next season with the group of Wiggins, Covington, Okogie, Bates-Diop and Reynolds.

Center is just fine as-is too with Towns and Dieng.

That leaves PG and PF as the positions to look at. Both spots have multiple free agents, and will go into summer with just one guy under contract. These are the spots we probably should be focusing on.

So who are the likely contenders at each position?
PG: Garland, White
PF: Doumbouya, Clarke, Hachimura, Washington, Bol

If we re-sign Tyus longterm, then I feel good about Nickeil Alexander-Walker as backup comboguard. I know it is very risky to compare NAW to Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, but he looks good slashing, finishing at rim and shooting 3s.

Beat me to it.

I'd take Bol Bol off the list too. I don't think he moves well enough to be a PF even if he can stretch the floor, not to mention that injury is scary for a guy his size.

Klomp wrote:I know this is probably an unpopular opinion, but I like where we're at on the wing. Sure there's always room for improvement, but I'm comfortable going into next season with the group of Wiggins, Covington, Okogie, Bates-Diop and Reynolds.

Center is just fine as-is too with Towns and Dieng.

That leaves PG and PF as the positions to look at. Both spots have multiple free agents, and will go into summer with just one guy under contract. These are the spots we probably should be focusing on.

So who are the likely contenders at each position?
PG: Garland, White
PF: Doumbouya, Clarke, Hachimura, Washington, Bol

I'd add Grant Williams to the PF list.