Around the League - 2019-2020

76ciology · Post #701 » by **76ciology** » Mon Dec 2, 2019 5:22 pm

Actually Lakers and Sixers style of offense is very similar. Even the frequency of wide open 3s and 3% of wide open 3s are very similar.

76ciology · Post #702 » by **76ciology** » Mon Dec 2, 2019 5:24 pm

Eyeamok wrote:
eagereyez wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
I haven't been following Magic basketball this year, but I don't recall any other shots (other than FTs from two season ago) being that big of an issue, especially off the dribble. There was clearly a mental block with his three pointers. I hope he can get past it, but I'm also not holding my breath.
Fultz shot 57% from the line on 37 attempts last year, and his form had an ugly hitch that changed from shot to shot. This year he's at 80% on 40 attempts and his form looks way better - it's consistent and much smoother. It looks like he corrected his FT form and is even shooting better from the line than he did in college. If he can fix his FTs then perhaps he can fix his 3 pointer. If he does, the Sixers will be ridiculed for dumping him.

But it would have taken him 4 to 5 years to be somewhat playable and productive. Not an all star or MVP but playable.

Upward trajectory though. And given his pedigree, he has a good chance to be special.

76ciology · Post #703 » by **76ciology** » Mon Dec 2, 2019 5:25 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
eagereyez wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
If he does, the Sixers will be ridiculed for dumping him.

Well, can't say it's not a Sixers trend!

Dunno. But so far he’s the one on the list for me. I dont regret giving up on Noel, Okafor, Roco, MCW or Saric. All of them should have not been selected as lottery picks, thats where the sentimental value takes place. They are role players at best.

76ciology · Post #704 » by **76ciology** » Mon Dec 2, 2019 5:27 pm

So remember the time when people kept saying we’ll regret trading shamet.

Where are they?

Kobblehead · Post #705 » by **Kobblehead** » Mon Dec 2, 2019 5:28 pm

eagereyez wrote:If he can fix his FTs then perhaps he can fix his 3 pointer.

Maybe, maybe not.

Demar Derozan and Russell Westbrook are career 80% free throw shooters with bad three point range.

Negrodamus · Post #706 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Dec 2, 2019 5:29 pm

76ciology wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
eagereyez wrote:

Well, can't say it's not a Sixers trend!

Dunno. But so far he’s the one on the list for me. I dont regret giving up on Noel, Okafor, Roco, MCW or Saric. All of them should have not been selected as lottery picks, thats where the sentimental value takes place. They are role players at best.

You can add Butler to that list as well. That said, Fultz has been more promising this season, but I'm not yet ready to anoint him the next coming.

76ciology · Post #707 » by **76ciology** » Mon Dec 2, 2019 5:33 pm

So its romeo langford that translated into that kings pick. I just found it just now. First time in my life that ive been watching the league from a distance.

So that was the pick we were all rejoicing? I’d rather have 40 year old rajon rondo coaching the team on offense and being the perfect back-up for Ben as a smaller imitation version of him.

Eyeamok · Post #708 » by **Eyeamok** » Mon Dec 2, 2019 5:34 pm

76ciology wrote:
Eyeamok wrote:
eagereyez wrote:Fultz shot 57% from the line on 37 attempts last year, and his form had an ugly hitch that changed from shot to shot. This year he's at 80% on 40 attempts and his form looks way better - it's consistent and much smoother. It looks like he corrected his FT form and is even shooting better from the line than he did in college. If he can fix his FTs then perhaps he can fix his 3 pointer. If he does, the Sixers will be ridiculed for dumping him.

But it would have taken him 4 to 5 years to be somewhat playable and productive. Not an all star or MVP but playable.

Upward trajectory though. And given his pedigree, he has a good chance to be special.

All true. But how does he handle the pressure of expectations. It's one thing playing for the magic when they will be happy to just make the playoffs and perhaps cause an upset. It's another thing when you are expected to be a major cog in a playoff run.

76ciology · Post #709 » by **76ciology** » Mon Dec 2, 2019 5:37 pm

Eyeamok wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Eyeamok wrote:
But it would have taken him 4 to 5 years to be somewhat playable and productive. Not an all star or MVP but playable.

Upward trajectory though. And given his pedigree, he has a good chance to be special.

All true. But how does he handle the pressure of expectations. It's one thing playing for the magic when they will be happy to just make the playoffs and perhaps cause an upset. It's another thing when you are expected to be a major cog in a playoff run.

Until then... upward trajectory with good pedigree.

76ciology · Post #710 » by **76ciology** » Mon Dec 2, 2019 5:49 pm

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Kobblehead · Post #711 » by **Kobblehead** » Mon Dec 2, 2019 5:54 pm

The Magic should scale Augustine's minutes down to 15 mpg and scale Fultz's up to 30+.

JojoSlimbiid · Post #712 » by **JojoSlimbiid** » Mon Dec 2, 2019 8:09 pm

He can't play 30+ minutes up until two games ago he was on a hard 25-26 cap.

KL78192020 · Post #713 » by **KL78192020** » Mon Dec 2, 2019 8:33 pm

eagereyez wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Yup.

I expect him to be the best player of his draft. He just need to have more experience and improve further his jumper.

Man, you're really stanning hard for Fultz. It's a massive caveat that he "further improves his jumper" though. Everything else about his game I was pretty high in the time he played here but it won't really mean anything (aside from a non-allstar player) if he doesn't get that shot right.
He's shooting 45% from mid-range and 80% from the line. His TS% is 55%, right near league average. It's really just his 3 pt. shooting that is preventing him from being great, shooting 22%. If that comes around to what you'd expect from an 80% FT shooter, then you have a great player on your hands.

He could end up being a better all around player than Simmons when its all said and done. There was to much pressure in Philly and theres no way you can run Fultz and Simmons out there together.

Bum Adebayo · Post #714 » by **Bum Adebayo** » Mon Dec 2, 2019 9:09 pm

Goes to show you the Brett effect, give players some freedom and better coaching and they perform much better. I'm convinced now, don't trade Simmons yet, fire Brown and then with a new coach reevaluate Simmons one year later.

XtremeDunkz · Post #715 » by **XtremeDunkz** » Mon Dec 2, 2019 10:39 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:Goes to show you the Brett effect, give players some freedom and better coaching and they perform much better. I'm convinced now, don't trade Simmons yet, fire Brown and then with a new coach reevaluate Simmons one year later.

lol. Brett can take some criticism for some things sure. But to blame him for anything remotely close to Fultz is asinine. He had to publicly beg Fultz to play again. Fultz lied about whatever happened to him and shutdown/gave up on the sixers.

Bum Adebayo · Post #716 » by **Bum Adebayo** » Mon Dec 2, 2019 11:36 pm

XtremeDunkz wrote:
Bum Adebayo wrote:Goes to show you the Brett effect, give players some freedom and better coaching and they perform much better. I'm convinced now, don't trade Simmons yet, fire Brown and then with a new coach reevaluate Simmons one year later.

lol. Brett can take some criticism for some things sure. But to blame him for anything remotely close to Fultz is asinine. He had to publicly beg Fultz to play again. Fultz lied about whatever happened to him and shutdown/gave up on the sixers.

Lack of players development is Brett's moto. There is no doubt in my mind he ruined Fultz, and he is slowly recovering from the effects, hopefully he still can do it. Ben is following the same trend in being ruined especially with the disgusting coddling. I still think there is time to save Simmons career, he can be so much better and a new coach who is willing to push Simmons to his limits is the way to go. Now trading Simmons is also an option given the bad fit between Embiid and Simmons, but he is too talented to not to try to do anything to see how good he can be. And I am the biggest Simmons hater, but his talent is undeniable.

XtremeDunkz · Post #717 » by **XtremeDunkz** » Tue Dec 3, 2019 12:06 am

Bum Adebayo wrote:
XtremeDunkz wrote:
Bum Adebayo wrote:Goes to show you the Brett effect, give players some freedom and better coaching and they perform much better. I'm convinced now, don't trade Simmons yet, fire Brown and then with a new coach reevaluate Simmons one year later.

lol. Brett can take some criticism for some things sure. But to blame him for anything remotely close to Fultz is asinine. He had to publicly beg Fultz to play again. Fultz lied about whatever happened to him and shutdown/gave up on the sixers.

Lack of players development is Brett's moto. There is no doubt in my mind he ruined Fultz, and he is slowly recovering from the effects, hopefully he still can do it. Ben is following the same trend in being ruined especially with the disgusting coddling. I still think there is time to save Simmons career, he can be so much better and a new coach who is willing to push Simmons to his limits is the way to go. Now trading Simmons is also an option given the bad fit between Embiid and Simmons, but he is too talented to not to try to do anything to see how good he can be. And I am the biggest Simmons hater, but his talent is undeniable.

lol come one man. I could pull hundreds of posts from you slobbering all over Simmons like he was the best thing on planet earth.

Post #718 » by **Sixerscan** » Tue Dec 3, 2019 4:33 am

Read on Twitter

lol

Bum Adebayo · Post #719 » by **Bum Adebayo** » Tue Dec 3, 2019 4:32 pm

XtremeDunkz wrote:
Bum Adebayo wrote:
XtremeDunkz wrote:
lol. Brett can take some criticism for some things sure. But to blame him for anything remotely close to Fultz is asinine. He had to publicly beg Fultz to play again. Fultz lied about whatever happened to him and shutdown/gave up on the sixers.

Lack of players development is Brett's moto. There is no doubt in my mind he ruined Fultz, and he is slowly recovering from the effects, hopefully he still can do it. Ben is following the same trend in being ruined especially with the disgusting coddling. I still think there is time to save Simmons career, he can be so much better and a new coach who is willing to push Simmons to his limits is the way to go. Now trading Simmons is also an option given the bad fit between Embiid and Simmons, but he is too talented to not to try to do anything to see how good he can be. And I am the biggest Simmons hater, but his talent is undeniable.

lol come one man. I could pull hundreds of posts from you slobbering all over Simmons like he was the best thing on planet earth.

But that is Regular Season Simmons. The Playoffs Simmons is another player, a player I've never been a fan of.

Kobblehead · Post #720 » by **Kobblehead** » Tue Dec 3, 2019 5:26 pm

Sixerscan wrote:

Read on Twitter

lol

This dinosaur should have coached the Butler/Wade/Rondo team.

Hoiberg should be coaching this team.