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Post#701 » by jayjaysee » Sat Nov 29, 2025 2:36 pm

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jayjaysee wrote: Everyone should value Christie a little though.


I've been thinking about him a lot. At a glance you see a young wing playing pretty well and think well he's one of the few keepers along with Flagg. But when you look a little closer he only has one more year under contract before a PO, which he is tracking to opt out of. Which means he's gone or a lot more expensive.

And his salary is under $8M, plus he does have that extra year so contenders who tend to be up against aprons could still fit in him and because its not a pure rental, its easier to give up a real asset.

The question is, is he worth a lotto protected 1st? Where Dallas simply pushes some asset value forward? Is there a contending team with a 2nd tier prospect they'd be willing to move to get a wing shooter who can't be hunted defensively?

Or is he just worth a 2nd or two and I'm overthinking it based on his small contract? But I'm a firm believer in bad teams dealing value contracts since they aren't really realizing the value of the cheap salary. And while I know you are more optimistic about next year, I see all the same issues only maybe with Kyrie. Which obviously helps, but not enough.


I think I’d lean with keeping him honestly. I don’t see some jump to stardom at all. But I do think he can keep developing into a decent starting two guard in case Dallas doesn’t get Peterson.. decide whether to keep him or trade him once he’s on his next contract?

I don’t see him extending if he has to opt in to 2027-2028 though. Which iirc players have to opt in to player option in order to extend early? If I’m wrong, I do think he might agree to opt out and extend for 2 years with another player option on the “4th” year if he can be done this coming summer. Would only be like 12-13 mil a year so he’d end up underpaid but some extra security in it.

But some team would pay a well protected first for him? Or at least should imo. And Dallas could package him with Naji to get a better asset? Or package him with Gafford (to Boston)
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Re: Rumors, Random Thoughts, etc Version 20/20 We all got everything right... 

Post#702 » by loveshaq007 » Sat Nov 29, 2025 2:51 pm

Lakers send out:

LeBron James — $52,627,153
Jarred Vanderbilt — $11,571,429
Gabe Vincent — $11,500,000
Maxi Kleber — $11,000,000
Bronny James — $1,955,377

TOTAL OUTGOING:
$88,653,959
---
Lakers receive (Heat send out):

Andrew Wiggins — $28,223,215
Norman Powell — $20,482,758
Terry Rozier — $26,643,031
Davion Mitchell — $11,600,000

TOTAL INCOMING:
$86,948,004
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Post#703 » by Fo-Real » Sat Nov 29, 2025 3:19 pm

loveshaq007 wrote:Lakers send out:

LeBron James — $52,627,153
Jarred Vanderbilt — $11,571,429
Gabe Vincent — $11,500,000
Maxi Kleber — $11,000,000
Bronny James — $1,955,377

TOTAL OUTGOING:
$88,653,959
---
Lakers receive (Heat send out):

Andrew Wiggins — $28,223,215
Norman Powell — $20,482,758
Terry Rozier — $26,643,031
Davion Mitchell — $11,600,000

TOTAL INCOMING:
$86,948,004



Ya I'm old, so I don't know how to do green font either! :o
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Re: Rumors, Random Thoughts, etc Version 20/20 We all got everything right... 

Post#704 » by oldncreaky » Sat Nov 29, 2025 3:35 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
jayjaysee wrote: Everyone should value Christie a little though.


I've been thinking about him a lot. At a glance you see a young wing playing pretty well and think well he's one of the few keepers along with Flagg. But when you look a little closer he only has one more year under contract before a PO, which he is tracking to opt out of. Which means he's gone or a lot more expensive.

And his salary is under $8M, plus he does have that extra year so contenders who tend to be up against aprons could still fit in him and because its not a pure rental, its easier to give up a real asset.

The question is, is he worth a lotto protected 1st? Where Dallas simply pushes some asset value forward? Is there a contending team with a 2nd tier prospect they'd be willing to move to get a wing shooter who can't be hunted defensively?

Or is he just worth a 2nd or two and I'm overthinking it based on his small contract? But I'm a firm believer in bad teams dealing value contracts since they aren't really realizing the value of the cheap salary. And while I know you are more optimistic about next year, I see all the same issues only maybe with Kyrie. Which obviously helps, but not enough.


DET is a good fit, but I'd value him at 1 or 2 SRP plus salary relief

Detroit has a glaring problem -- our attack is mediocre at best any time Cade is sitting -- and Christie really doesn't do anything for that. I would hate it if DET GM Langdon spent draft resources on a "nice to have" when the loss of Dennis Schroeder looks like it will cost us dearly.

So I would be fine if DET is just sending out a SRP or 2 to take Christie into a trade exception, but I don't want to pony up a FRP.
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Post#705 » by nzahir » Yesterday 8:34 am

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
jayjaysee wrote: Everyone should value Christie a little though.


I've been thinking about him a lot. At a glance you see a young wing playing pretty well and think well he's one of the few keepers along with Flagg. But when you look a little closer he only has one more year under contract before a PO, which he is tracking to opt out of. Which means he's gone or a lot more expensive.

And his salary is under $8M, plus he does have that extra year so contenders who tend to be up against aprons could still fit in him and because its not a pure rental, its easier to give up a real asset.

The question is, is he worth a lotto protected 1st? Where Dallas simply pushes some asset value forward? Is there a contending team with a 2nd tier prospect they'd be willing to move to get a wing shooter who can't be hunted defensively?

Or is he just worth a 2nd or two and I'm overthinking it based on his small contract? But I'm a firm believer in bad teams dealing value contracts since they aren't really realizing the value of the cheap salary. And while I know you are more optimistic about next year, I see all the same issues only maybe with Kyrie. Which obviously helps, but not enough.

As a former max hater. Imo he worth a top 10 protected pick from a playoff team. Partially because of his contract and partially because he 22 and keep getting better.

I would easily give lakers 2031 pick to get him back. Would fit like a glove.

Think problem would be getting non Laker and Mavs fans to understand his trajectory. I rather have max than a prospect like Rob dillingham. I’m high on Rob still too

I would give up a 1st, Knecht, and probably Thiero for Christie.

Need to move Kleber/Gabe for Caleb or Naji for salaries I think or need a 3rd team

We probably couldnt do better than a guy like Max as a starter to replace Rui/Smart unelss we got Wiggins or Herb Jones

But Max is the best 3 point shooter of the bunch and the youngest
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Post#706 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Yesterday 9:32 am

nzahir wrote:
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
I've been thinking about him a lot. At a glance you see a young wing playing pretty well and think well he's one of the few keepers along with Flagg. But when you look a little closer he only has one more year under contract before a PO, which he is tracking to opt out of. Which means he's gone or a lot more expensive.

And his salary is under $8M, plus he does have that extra year so contenders who tend to be up against aprons could still fit in him and because its not a pure rental, its easier to give up a real asset.

The question is, is he worth a lotto protected 1st? Where Dallas simply pushes some asset value forward? Is there a contending team with a 2nd tier prospect they'd be willing to move to get a wing shooter who can't be hunted defensively?

Or is he just worth a 2nd or two and I'm overthinking it based on his small contract? But I'm a firm believer in bad teams dealing value contracts since they aren't really realizing the value of the cheap salary. And while I know you are more optimistic about next year, I see all the same issues only maybe with Kyrie. Which obviously helps, but not enough.

As a former max hater. Imo he worth a top 10 protected pick from a playoff team. Partially because of his contract and partially because he 22 and keep getting better.

I would easily give lakers 2031 pick to get him back. Would fit like a glove.

Think problem would be getting non Laker and Mavs fans to understand his trajectory. I rather have max than a prospect like Rob dillingham. I’m high on Rob still too

I would give up a 1st, Knecht, and probably Thiero for Christie.

Need to move Kleber/Gabe for Caleb or Naji for salaries I think or need a 3rd team

We probably couldnt do better than a guy like Max as a starter to replace Rui/Smart unelss we got Wiggins or Herb Jones

But Max is the best 3 point shooter of the bunch and the youngest

Definitely. I probably try to hold on Thierro. He has legit wing size for the future.

Max, smart and thierro will give you enough swift knives to cover 1 to 4 in spurts. Lakers would just need a rebounding or blocking 4 5
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Post#707 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Yesterday 9:33 am

loveshaq007 wrote:Lakers send out:

LeBron James — $52,627,153
Jarred Vanderbilt — $11,571,429
Gabe Vincent — $11,500,000
Maxi Kleber — $11,000,000
Bronny James — $1,955,377

TOTAL OUTGOING:
$88,653,959
---
Lakers receive (Heat send out):

Andrew Wiggins — $28,223,215
Norman Powell — $20,482,758
Terry Rozier — $26,643,031
Davion Mitchell — $11,600,000

TOTAL INCOMING:
$86,948,004

You must hate LeBron lol
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Post#708 » by ReggiesKnicks » Yesterday 2:54 pm

loveshaq007 wrote:Lakers send out:

LeBron James — $52,627,153
Jarred Vanderbilt — $11,571,429
Gabe Vincent — $11,500,000
Maxi Kleber — $11,000,000
Bronny James — $1,955,377

TOTAL OUTGOING:
$88,653,959
---
Lakers receive (Heat send out):

Andrew Wiggins — $28,223,215
Norman Powell — $20,482,758
Terry Rozier — $26,643,031
Davion Mitchell — $11,600,000

TOTAL INCOMING:
$86,948,004


LeBron goes from a fringe contender to a team whose best players are Bam Adebayo and Tyler Herro?
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Post#709 » by brackdan70 » Yesterday 3:20 pm

loveshaq007 wrote:Lakers send out:

LeBron James — $52,627,153
Jarred Vanderbilt — $11,571,429
Gabe Vincent — $11,500,000
Maxi Kleber — $11,000,000
Bronny James — $1,955,377

TOTAL OUTGOING:
$88,653,959
---
Lakers receive (Heat send out):

Andrew Wiggins — $28,223,215
Norman Powell — $20,482,758
Terry Rozier — $26,643,031
Davion Mitchell — $11,600,000

TOTAL INCOMING:
$86,948,004

I get it for the Lakers but why would the Heat do this?
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Post#710 » by Mavrelous » Yesterday 3:34 pm

The brothers finally play together
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Post#711 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Yesterday 3:46 pm

Mavrelous wrote:The brothers finally play together
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Seems like something that might be important for a player in his final season.
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Post#712 » by ReggiesKnicks » Yesterday 4:25 pm

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Mavrelous wrote:The brothers finally play together
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Seems like something that might be important for a player in his final season.


Yeah Seth is likely in his final season.
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Post#713 » by Devilanche » Yesterday 10:03 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:The brothers finally play together
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Seems like something that might be important for a player in his final season.


Yeah Seth is likely in his final season.

I want curry and LeBron final season to overlap. Would be nice. Maybe KD as well…
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Post#714 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Today 1:27 am

Devilanche wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
Seems like something that might be important for a player in his final season.


Yeah Seth is likely in his final season.

I want curry and LeBron final season to overlap. Would be nice. Maybe KD as well…

LeBron will play another season before he shares his retirement tour spotlight lol
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Post#715 » by babyjax13 » Today 2:50 am

Utah being buyers at the deadline would be profoundly stupid.
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Post#716 » by Diop » Today 2:55 am

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
Devilanche wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:
Yeah Seth is likely in his final season.

I want curry and LeBron final season to overlap. Would be nice. Maybe KD as well…

LeBron will play another season before he shares his retirement tour spotlight lol

He should go back to Cleveland, play for the minimum and help them get another championship.
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Post#717 » by chrbal » Today 3:07 am

babyjax13 wrote:Utah being buyers at the deadline would be profoundly stupid.


Is that being reported somewhere?
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Post#718 » by babyjax13 » Today 3:43 am

chrbal wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:Utah being buyers at the deadline would be profoundly stupid.


Is that being reported somewhere?

The wiretap is reporting it: https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/282946/Jazz-Signal-Intent-To-Build-Around-Lauri-Markkanen-Rather-Than-Explore-Trade

The Utah Jazz are signaling a shift away from rebuilding mode. League sources increasingly believe the team will add talent around Lauri Markkanen this trade season rather than trade their star forward. The move would mark Utah's attempt to return to playoff contention after three seasons outside the postseason.
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Post#719 » by Godaddycurse » Today 4:02 am

babyjax13 wrote:
chrbal wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:Utah being buyers at the deadline would be profoundly stupid.


Is that being reported somewhere?

The wiretap is reporting it: https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/282946/Jazz-Signal-Intent-To-Build-Around-Lauri-Markkanen-Rather-Than-Explore-Trade

The Utah Jazz are signaling a shift away from rebuilding mode. League sources increasingly believe the team will add talent around Lauri Markkanen this trade season rather than trade their star forward. The move would mark Utah's attempt to return to playoff contention after three seasons outside the postseason.


smokescreen to drive up asking price on Lauri
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Post#720 » by SkyHook » Today 4:03 am

babyjax13 wrote:
chrbal wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:Utah being buyers at the deadline would be profoundly stupid.


Is that being reported somewhere?

The wiretap is reporting it: https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/282946/Jazz-Signal-Intent-To-Build-Around-Lauri-Markkanen-Rather-Than-Explore-Trade

The Utah Jazz are signaling a shift away from rebuilding mode. League sources increasingly believe the team will add talent around Lauri Markkanen this trade season rather than trade their star forward. The move would mark Utah's attempt to return to playoff contention after three seasons outside the postseason.

The idea of building around Lauri tracks with everything that the Jazz FO has been doing for the last few years. It makes perfect sense for them to be buyers next summer, but to do it early at the deadline makes little sense unless it’s an opportunistic trade for an injured but promising player who is out for the season.
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