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I don't see how you sell the Knicks on taking THJ back knowing they have to turn around and pay Brunson. And I don't think you sell Portland on taking Powell because he's overpaid and creates tax issues once they pay Simons.
That's the problem. The money delta right now between Brunson and CJ requires a lot of multiyear money leaving Dallas and Brunson getting paid next year makes that money a problem for the receiving teams.
And for Dallas while both THJ and Powell are overpaid, they are solid rotation players for Dallas and so losing them weakens the team especially since the on court delta between CJ and Brunson shrinks by the day.
That's the problem. The money delta right now between Brunson and CJ requires a lot of multiyear money leaving Dallas and Brunson getting paid next year makes that money a problem for the receiving teams.
And for Dallas while both THJ and Powell are overpaid, they are solid rotation players for Dallas and so losing them weakens the team especially since the on court delta between CJ and Brunson shrinks by the day.
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Marcus Morris liked a tweet from someone asking if he's going to South Beach to reunite with Kieff, fueling speculation that Miami was apparently interested.
Take from it what you will.
Take from it what you will.
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Also the source for CJ to Dallas seems to be Scotto. Who also claimed Dallas turned down a late lottery pick in last year's draft for DFS. Which certainly would be great for me if true because I had posted a valuation similar to that last year on him and was quickly told I was way too high. But personal chest-thumping aside, I find that report a bit surprising. Not that Dallas would turn down a deal--he's obviously a big part of the team, but that a team with a late lotto pick would want to spend it on him. The Warriors are the one team that makes sense, but that goes against everything they've said publicly about how they value those picks. I know Rick loves him, but I can't imagine the PAcers would have done that either.
So what I'm saying is Scotto seems maybe off? IDK. Can anyone vouch for credibility?
So what I'm saying is Scotto seems maybe off? IDK. Can anyone vouch for credibility?
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NYG wrote:Randle to Portland
Brunson to NYK
McCollum to Dallas
With tons of filler going on salary and value wise.
DAL in: CJ, Kemba, '23 DAL 1st.
NYK in: THJ, Nance Jr., Brunson, '22 DAL 1st.
POR in: Randle, Burke.
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Would be a perfect fit on the Raptors. Any realistic deal possible between the two?
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Hornets probably won't make any moves to "play for the long game" like Kupchak likes to do but I would do Rozier for Hart and Hayes just to get some defense and get off Rozier's long term money. Rozier is an ideal third banana to Zion and Ingram
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So naturally as I suggest the Wizards should move quickly to swap Beal for Simmons while they can, Stein is reporting the Wizards will do Wizard things and look to add veteran help in an attempt to convince him to commit to a new long-term deal.
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As a wizards fan I still believe Beal has value but I'm ready to move on. I want a rebuild.Texas Chuck wrote:So naturally as I suggest the Wizards should move quickly to swap Beal for Simmons while they can, Stein is reporting the Wizards will do Wizard things and look to add veteran help in an attempt to convince him to commit to a new long-term deal.
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Texas Chuck wrote:NYG wrote:Randle to Portland
Brunson to NYK
McCollum to Dallas
With tons of filler going on salary and value wise.
I don't have Dallas having $25M worth of salary they would want to give away unless its THJ and I don't know that the Knicks take him back. And while CJ is better than Brunson this year how much longer is that going to be the case? I don't think the upgrade for Dallas is worth the detonation of depth. Even if Brunson gets a huge payday this off-season its likely to be $10M cheaper than CJ. But more than that, its the players Dallas has to dump now just to match salary.
Who were you thinking Dallas would include--Powell and THJ I'm guessing? I know Powell is bad money but if you look at Dallas' centers you'd have to replace him cheap. Boban played for the first time in 20 games last night for like 2 minutes. Moses Brown is equally nailed to the bench and they both aren't ready to take minutes. KP is always hurt and if Kleber becomes the 2nd center now Dallas is playing Bullock as their full time back up PF.
I think that money gap renders this very very difficult. Because Dallas needs the players they give up to match and the teams taking them would go oh yuck THJ/Powell give me major incentive that Dallas isn't going to want to give.
Brunson and THJ for Randle and Kemba (into TPE)?
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NYG wrote:[
Brunson and THJ for Randle and Kemba (into TPE)?
Not sure exactly what I think right now. On the one hand, if Randle is anything close to what he showed last year Dallas is getting a really good deal. On the other, I'm not sure just how well his game meshes with Luka's.
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I’m super intrigued by Luka Zinger Randle
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Dallas isn't taking Kemba off NY's hands. The guy is irrelevant and paid 8 mil, they can easily find a cheaper version off the streets or for a throwaway 2nd
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My fellow Mavs fans overwhelming hatred for Kemba Walker continues to baffle me. Especially in the context of the proposed idea where he's simply a stopgap replacement very needed if Brunson is dealt.
He's an MLE guy, not a max guy. And yes he's negative value. And yes he's no longer an all-star. But as a guy who plays 15 mpg while Luka rests he's still a capable offensive player especially against other benches.
Just feel like the narrative against him is way stronger than how negative his value actually is. It's like how other fanbases talk about Dwight Powell. They just aren't as horrible either on the court or as contracts as they get painted here.
Really don't understand the hyperbole.
He's an MLE guy, not a max guy. And yes he's negative value. And yes he's no longer an all-star. But as a guy who plays 15 mpg while Luka rests he's still a capable offensive player especially against other benches.
Just feel like the narrative against him is way stronger than how negative his value actually is. It's like how other fanbases talk about Dwight Powell. They just aren't as horrible either on the court or as contracts as they get painted here.
Really don't understand the hyperbole.
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Texas Chuck wrote:My fellow Mavs fans overwhelming hatred for Kemba Walker continues to baffle me. Especially in the context of the proposed idea where he's simply a stopgap replacement very needed if Brunson is dealt.
He's an MLE guy, not a max guy. And yes he's negative value. And yes he's no longer an all-star. But as a guy who plays 15 mpg while Luka rests he's still a capable offensive player especially against other benches.
Just feel like the narrative against him is way stronger than how negative his value actually is. It's like how other fanbases talk about Dwight Powell. They just aren't as horrible either on the court or as contracts as they get painted here.
Really don't understand the hyperbole.
The story of the Knicks this year is that when Kemba is on the floor their defense is terrible and when Randle is on the floor their offense is terrible. I would not trade for both of them.
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Is there a PG that's likely to be available that can run an offense (doesn't necessarily need to be able to create his own shot), knock down open shots, and not be a blackhole defensively?
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Karmaloop wrote:Is there a PG that's likely to be available that can run an offense (doesn't necessarily need to be able to create his own shot), knock down open shots, and not be a blackhole defensively?
if the Wolves do something big and need to send out PatBev's matching he's that guy.
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Texas Chuck wrote:if the Wolves do something big and need to send out PatBev's matching he's that guy.
LOL. I guess I should have mentioned isn't a clown.
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Karmaloop wrote:Texas Chuck wrote:if the Wolves do something big and need to send out PatBev's matching he's that guy.
LOL. I guess I should have mentioned isn't a clown.
Yeah if you are caught up in name calling players and being super picky despite the Lakers dearth of assets why even ask the question?
He fits exactly what you want. There aren't a lot of those guys to be had for what the Lakers can pay and its not like other teams wouldn't like a 3&D PG who can run an offense.
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Texas Chuck wrote:Yeah if you are caught up in name calling players and being super picky despite the Lakers dearth of assets why even ask the question?
He fits exactly what you want. There aren't a lot of those guys to be had for what the Lakers can pay and its not like other teams wouldn't like a 3&D PG who can run an offense.
The fit makes sense, but I'm pretty sure the personality won't fit in that locker room. That's why I said what I said. And it's not like I'm expecting some world beater.
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