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Post#721 » by Bob8 » Yesterday 4:39 pm

Super Cooper wrote:
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Super Cooper wrote:Excellent question. These are the things we should be kicking around.

Dirk would be amazing. Ditto with Nash. I would say Fin because he's done the time in the FO, but he lost me when he took the beer out of Luka's hand, making him a "fat, lazy Luka" disciple of Nico. I'd like to get back to the international focus we had with Donnie and Nellie.

Presti has done a clinic on what franchises should build. Off the top of my head, everyone but Hartenstein is drafted or traded for. Who is his top lieutenant?

I still think Finley was complicit in the Luka trade. He shares some of the blame in my opinion.

Who are the best GM candidates that could be available? I would assume that Kidd would be gone too if Nico is gone. Who would be the best coach for Cooper Flagg?


Agreed about Fin. He's a non-starter.

I think Nash got a raw deal in BRK. I see him in the Kerr mold. I'd put his BBall IQ at par with the greats.

So, as a Mavs homer, I'd love Dirk at GM (surrounded by the best talent currently in a non-Mavs FO) and Nash as HC. Both have such a sense of calm and knowledge.


I know them both, to be honest they're great for playing tennis with them. Neither are GM material.
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Post#722 » by Super Cooper » Yesterday 4:44 pm

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Super Cooper wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
I'm waiting for another great trade idea. Come on. I want to laugh again.

Oh well, position less basketball is great. You were right, champ.


Bobcats... So your solution is what? Details please.


It's the 100th time, Fire Harrison and trade street clothes for picks and young guys.
Tank the season and rebuild.

You don't like it, i know. But i can live with it. Chill.


Bobcats, you realize that's a "water is wet" statement, right? It is the consensus of EVERY Mavs fan and lacks any details.

Details?
Who should we hire to replace Nico?
Who/what are the young players we would get for AD?
Who are the players on the roster you would build around and what is needed to compliment them?

I don't like it?! I despise the Luka trade and Nico as much as you.
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Post#723 » by 41Dirk41 » Yesterday 4:44 pm

Archx wrote:
Super Cooper wrote:
Archx wrote:Mark Cuban with SAS talking about Luka and how the trade wouldn't happen under his watch :lol:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Mavericks/comments/1orphjj/mark_cuban_on_lukas_historic_start_of_the_season/

Mark Cuban on Luka's historic start of the season: "It's painful, you know, as a Mavs fan and as somebody who potentially, if I would have done a better job of just defining my role in advance, might not have happened. So it hurts me. I know it kills Mavs fans everywhere, but I'm happy for Luka."


He's right, though. Of all the stupid things Cuban did, he never would have let Nico trade Luka. Now, I do question his honesty here. If he thought it necessary to have a say in transactions as a minority owner, he should have made that happen.


Yeah but he's the biggest reason why Mavs are in such state right now. He should stop talking tbh.


Agree.

Cuban hired Harrison and sold the team to Adelsons.

He has a role in this failure. I'm sorry Mark. Shut up.
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Post#724 » by Super Cooper » Yesterday 4:48 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Super Cooper wrote:
Mr B wrote:I still think Finley was complicit in the Luka trade. He shares some of the blame in my opinion.

Who are the best GM candidates that could be available? I would assume that Kidd would be gone too if Nico is gone. Who would be the best coach for Cooper Flagg?


Agreed about Fin. He's a non-starter.

I think Nash got a raw deal in BRK. I see him in the Kerr mold. I'd put his BBall IQ at par with the greats.

So, as a Mavs homer, I'd love Dirk at GM (surrounded by the best talent currently in a non-Mavs FO) and Nash as HC. Both have such a sense of calm and knowledge.


I know them both, to be honest they're great for playing tennis with them. Neither are GM material.


I know my fellow Broncos alum Nash pretty well, but have only met Dirk socially at The Loon.

Awesome you have inside info on them. Why do you think Dirk isn't GM material? Why do you think Nash isn't HC material?
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Post#725 » by 41Dirk41 » Yesterday 4:48 pm

Super Cooper wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
Super Cooper wrote:
Bobcats... So your solution is what? Details please.


It's the 100th time, Fire Harrison and trade street clothes for picks and young guys.
Tank the season and rebuild.

You don't like it, i know. But i can live with it. Chill.


Bobcats, you realize that's a "water is wet" statement, right? It is the consensus of EVERY Mavs fan and lacks any details.

Details?
Who should we hire to replace Nico?
Who/what are the young players we would get for AD?
Who are the players on the roster you would build around and what is needed to compliment them?

I don't like it?! I despise the Luka trade and Nico as much as you.


You.

I see a brillant guy with a very high basketball IQ plus a Nostradamus sense of prediction... Probably you have the right skills to be the our next GM.

Send the curriculum to Dumont, you two are a good pair... Just like in that funny film with Jim Carrey e Jeff Daniels, what was the title?
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Post#726 » by Bob8 » Yesterday 4:52 pm

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Bob8 wrote:
Super Cooper wrote:
Agreed about Fin. He's a non-starter.

I think Nash got a raw deal in BRK. I see him in the Kerr mold. I'd put his BBall IQ at par with the greats.

So, as a Mavs homer, I'd love Dirk at GM (surrounded by the best talent currently in a non-Mavs FO) and Nash as HC. Both have such a sense of calm and knowledge.


I know them both, to be honest they're great for playing tennis with them. Neither are GM material.


I know my fellow Broncos alum Nash pretty well, but have only met Dirk socially at The Loon.

Awesome you have inside info on them. Why do you think Dirk isn't GM material? Why do you think Nash isn't HC material?


Because they are just regular guys, Dirk is awkward as it gets and Nash is a good guy. You need corporate people to run things. Not like Dumont who was married into money, but real corporate men. Lakers new owner is prime example of what you need.
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Post#727 » by Super Cooper » Yesterday 4:57 pm

Archx wrote:
Super Cooper wrote:
Archx wrote:Mark Cuban with SAS talking about Luka and how the trade wouldn't happen under his watch :lol:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Mavericks/comments/1orphjj/mark_cuban_on_lukas_historic_start_of_the_season/

Mark Cuban on Luka's historic start of the season: "It's painful, you know, as a Mavs fan and as somebody who potentially, if I would have done a better job of just defining my role in advance, might not have happened. So it hurts me. I know it kills Mavs fans everywhere, but I'm happy for Luka."


He's right, though. Of all the stupid things Cuban did, he never would have let Nico trade Luka. Now, I do question his honesty here. If he thought it necessary to have a say in transactions as a minority owner, he should have made that happen.


Yeah but he's the biggest reason why Mavs are in such state right now. He should stop talking tbh.


I'm in complete agreement. He's making it sound like he was powerless, which is exactly the role he put himself in.
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Post#728 » by Super Cooper » Yesterday 5:03 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:
Super Cooper wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
It's the 100th time, Fire Harrison and trade street clothes for picks and young guys.
Tank the season and rebuild.

You don't like it, i know. But i can live with it. Chill.


Bobcats, you realize that's a "water is wet" statement, right? It is the consensus of EVERY Mavs fan and lacks any details.

Details?
Who should we hire to replace Nico?
Who/what are the young players we would get for AD?
Who are the players on the roster you would build around and what is needed to compliment them?

I don't like it?! I despise the Luka trade and Nico as much as you.


You.

I see a brillant guy with a very high basketball IQ plus a Nostradamus sense of prediction... Probably you have the right skills to be the our next GM.

Send the curriculum to Dumont, you two are a good pair... Just like in that funny film with Jim Carrey e Jeff Daniels, what was the title?


Bobcats, that's what I expected. Put up or STFU. You are exposed.

Your hot take on every issue: WATER IS WET.

How are things in Charlotte?
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Post#729 » by Super Cooper » Yesterday 5:10 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Super Cooper wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
I know them both, to be honest they're great for playing tennis with them. Neither are GM material.


I know my fellow Broncos alum Nash pretty well, but have only met Dirk socially at The Loon.

Awesome you have inside info on them. Why do you think Dirk isn't GM material? Why do you think Nash isn't HC material?


Because they are just regular guys, Dirk is awkward as it gets and Nash is a good guy. You need corporate people to run things. Not like Dumont who was married into money, but real corporate men. Lakers new owner is prime example of what you need.


In your opinion, how is that different from Kerr, Spol, and other top HCs?
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Post#730 » by 41Dirk41 » Yesterday 5:12 pm

Super Cooper wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
Super Cooper wrote:
Bobcats, you realize that's a "water is wet" statement, right? It is the consensus of EVERY Mavs fan and lacks any details.

Details?
Who should we hire to replace Nico?
Who/what are the young players we would get for AD?
Who are the players on the roster you would build around and what is needed to compliment them?

I don't like it?! I despise the Luka trade and Nico as much as you.


You.

I see a brillant guy with a very high basketball IQ plus a Nostradamus sense of prediction... Probably you have the right skills to be the our next GM.

Send the curriculum to Dumont, you two are a good pair... Just like in that funny film with Jim Carrey e Jeff Daniels, what was the title?


Bobcats, that's what I expected. Put up or STFU. You are exposed.

Your hot take on every issue: WATER IS WET.

How are things in Charlotte?


Of course...you are Nostradamus!

Position less basketball is the future and we will be good. Princeton offense rules. Else?
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Post#731 » by Bob8 » Yesterday 5:15 pm

Super Cooper wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Super Cooper wrote:
I know my fellow Broncos alum Nash pretty well, but have only met Dirk socially at The Loon.

Awesome you have inside info on them. Why do you think Dirk isn't GM material? Why do you think Nash isn't HC material?


Because they are just regular guys, Dirk is awkward as it gets and Nash is a good guy. You need corporate people to run things. Not like Dumont who was married into money, but real corporate men. Lakers new owner is prime example of what you need.


In your opinion, how is that different from Kerr, Spol, and other top HCs?


I don't know anything about them, but I would imagine being coach or GM is a big difference and if we're talking about coaches, you have to be somewhat obsessed. JJ Redick is a good example, he's living to be a coach. Most majority of ex basketball players just enjoy living.
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Post#732 » by BliscoSantos » Yesterday 5:21 pm

Didn't Nash already tried coaching once,how did that go :roll:

Dirk strikes me as a guy that has no interest in a FO it coaching position
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Post#733 » by Super Cooper » Yesterday 5:33 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Super Cooper wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Because they are just regular guys, Dirk is awkward as it gets and Nash is a good guy. You need corporate people to run things. Not like Dumont who was married into money, but real corporate men. Lakers new owner is prime example of what you need.
HC.

In your opinion, how is that different from Kerr, Spol, and other top HCs?


I don't know anything about them, but I would imagine being coach or GM is a big difference and if we're talking about coaches, you have to be somewhat obsessed. JJ Redick is a good example, he's living to be a coach. Most majority of ex basketball players just enjoy living.


Ya, I was thinking of JJ. Dude exudes passion for basketball, fanatical.

Knowing Nash, I'd put him in the Kerr/Spol category.

You're right, Dirk is awkward af. I don't see that, though, stopping him from excelling as a GM. Karl, Nellie, and Pop were also awkward af.

The SJ Sharks were a client of mine in the early and mid 90s. I was in the office almost daily. I'd have to say that a sports front office is extremely different than other corporate environments. Grillo couldn't have managed GE and Welsh couldn't have managed the Sharks.

IMO, Dirk would make a great GM. Nash would make a great HC.
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Post#734 » by BliscoSantos » Yesterday 5:39 pm

Super Cooper wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Super Cooper wrote:HC.

In your opinion, how is that different from Kerr, Spol, and other top HCs?


I don't know anything about them, but I would imagine being coach or GM is a big difference and if we're talking about coaches, you have to be somewhat obsessed. JJ Redick is a good example, he's living to be a coach. Most majority of ex basketball players just enjoy living.


Ya, I was thinking of JJ. Dude exudes passion for basketball, fanatical.

Knowing Nash, I'd put him in the Kerr/Spol category.

You're right, Dirk is awkward af. I don't see that, though, stopping him from excelling as a GM. Karl, Nellie, and Pop were also awkward af.

The SJ Sharks were a client of mine in the early and mid 90s. I was in the office almost daily. I'd have to say that a sports front office is extremely different than other corporate environments. Grillo couldn't have managed GE and Welsh couldn't have managed the Sharks.

IMO, Dirk would make a great GM. Nash would make a great HC.


Nashis worse than Kidd...he coached Kyrie,and KD,and Harden... didn't seem like they were a well coached team...they Just had enough talent

Based on his interviews Dirk has no desire to work in a FO or coach...he Just wants to enjoy Life now it seems....with a Little bit of commentary for Prime as an analyst
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Post#735 » by Bob8 » Yesterday 5:43 pm

Super Cooper wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Super Cooper wrote:HC.

In your opinion, how is that different from Kerr, Spol, and other top HCs?


I don't know anything about them, but I would imagine being coach or GM is a big difference and if we're talking about coaches, you have to be somewhat obsessed. JJ Redick is a good example, he's living to be a coach. Most majority of ex basketball players just enjoy living.


Ya, I was thinking of JJ. Dude exudes passion for basketball, fanatical.

Knowing Nash, I'd put him in the Kerr/Spol category.

You're right, Dirk is awkward af. I don't see that, though, stopping him from excelling as a GM. Karl, Nellie, and Pop were also awkward af.

The SJ Sharks were a client of mine in the early and mid 90s. I was in the office almost daily. I'd have to say that a sports front office is extremely different than other corporate environments. Grillo couldn't have managed GE and Welsh couldn't have managed the Sharks.

IMO, Dirk would make a great GM. Nash would make a great HC.


Dirk just doesn't want it. And Nash isn't the right material. That's quite normal, I would say less than 5% of ex players are up to it.
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Post#736 » by Super Cooper » Yesterday 5:49 pm

BliscoSantos wrote:Didn't Nash already tried coaching once,how did that go :roll:

Dirk strikes me as a guy that has no interest in a FO it coaching position


The cloned offspring of Phil and Red couldn't have made that BRK job work. I think this ai writeup is fair...

Coaching Experience and Challenges
- Limited prior coaching experience: Nash was hired by the Nets in 2020 with no previous coaching background, which raised eyebrows given the complexity of managing a star-heavy roster.
- Star-studded but volatile team: He coached Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, and James Harden — three elite but high-maintenance players. From the outset, Kyrie publicly stated that the team didn’t need a head coach, undermining Nash’s authority before his first game.
- Constant roster instability: Injuries, trades, and off-court drama (like Kyrie’s vaccine saga and Harden’s trade demand) disrupted team chemistry and made consistent coaching nearly impossible.
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Post#737 » by 41Dirk41 » Yesterday 5:55 pm

BliscoSantos wrote:
Super Cooper wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
I don't know anything about them, but I would imagine being coach or GM is a big difference and if we're talking about coaches, you have to be somewhat obsessed. JJ Redick is a good example, he's living to be a coach. Most majority of ex basketball players just enjoy living.


Ya, I was thinking of JJ. Dude exudes passion for basketball, fanatical.

Knowing Nash, I'd put him in the Kerr/Spol category.

You're right, Dirk is awkward af. I don't see that, though, stopping him from excelling as a GM. Karl, Nellie, and Pop were also awkward af.

The SJ Sharks were a client of mine in the early and mid 90s. I was in the office almost daily. I'd have to say that a sports front office is extremely different than other corporate environments. Grillo couldn't have managed GE and Welsh couldn't have managed the Sharks.

IMO, Dirk would make a great GM. Nash would make a great HC.


Nashis worse than Kidd...he coached Kyrie,and KD,and Harden... didn't seem like they were a well coached team...they Just had enough talent

Based on his interviews Dirk has no desire to work in a FO or coach...he Just wants to enjoy Life now it seems....with a Little bit of commentary for Prime as an analyst


Nash is trash as coach. It's one of the worst option :lol:

If rebuild is the way then i want an european coach... Like Kokoskov.

And for Nostradamus, Charlotte is THE target for street clothes trade.

Our '26 pick + '27 orlando + Kon and filler are enough for me.
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Post#738 » by BliscoSantos » Yesterday 6:01 pm

Super Cooper wrote:
BliscoSantos wrote:Didn't Nash already tried coaching once,how did that go :roll:

Dirk strikes me as a guy that has no interest in a FO it coaching position


The cloned offspring of Phil and Red couldn't have made that BRK job work. I think this ai writeup is fair...

Coaching Experience and Challenges
- Limited prior coaching experience: Nash was hired by the Nets in 2020 with no previous coaching background, which raised eyebrows given the complexity of managing a star-heavy roster.
- Star-studded but volatile team: He coached Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, and James Harden — three elite but high-maintenance players. From the outset, Kyrie publicly stated that the team didn’t need a head coach, undermining Nash’s authority before his first game.
- Constant roster instability: Injuries, trades, and off-court drama (like Kyrie’s vaccine saga and Harden’s trade demand) disrupted team chemistry and made consistent coaching nearly impossible.


I don't see that much diference between that Nets and this Dallas roster...Kyrie is Kyrie, AD replaces KD and them you can put Cooper+PJ+Klay as Harden
Nash is definetly not the coach for this team,nor I think he's a coach material...Just because you were a great Player doesnt mean you're gonna be a good coach,exec
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Post#739 » by Super Cooper » Yesterday 6:16 pm

This is very telling...

https://www.82games.com/nopdal16.html

I wish they did this to every game.

Player Physicality - Wins, Physicality - Net Wins, Playing Hard Wins, Knock Downs, Roland Hard Play Score
Washington 24, +7, 7, 4, 25
Gafford 36, +11, 12, 3, 24
Flagg 24, +3, 15, 1, 18
Williams 14, -2, 12, 1, 10
Marshall 14, +4, 6, 0, 10
Hardy 4, +0, 5, 1, 5
Martin 2, +1, 1, 0, 2
Thompson, 6, -3, 3, 0, 0
Christie, 4, -6, 4, 0, -2
Cisse 1, -4, 2, 0, -2
Powell 4, -6, 3, 0, -3
Russell 10, -10, 6, 0, -4
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Post#740 » by Super Cooper » Yesterday 6:23 pm

BliscoSantos wrote:
Super Cooper wrote:
BliscoSantos wrote:Didn't Nash already tried coaching once,how did that go :roll:

Dirk strikes me as a guy that has no interest in a FO it coaching position


The cloned offspring of Phil and Red couldn't have made that BRK job work. I think this ai writeup is fair...

Coaching Experience and Challenges
- Limited prior coaching experience: Nash was hired by the Nets in 2020 with no previous coaching background, which raised eyebrows given the complexity of managing a star-heavy roster.
- Star-studded but volatile team: He coached Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, and James Harden — three elite but high-maintenance players. From the outset, Kyrie publicly stated that the team didn’t need a head coach, undermining Nash’s authority before his first game.
- Constant roster instability: Injuries, trades, and off-court drama (like Kyrie’s vaccine saga and Harden’s trade demand) disrupted team chemistry and made consistent coaching nearly impossible.


I don't see that much diference between that Nets and this Dallas roster...Kyrie is Kyrie, AD replaces KD and them you can put Cooper+PJ+Klay as Harden
Nash is definetly not the coach for this team,nor I think he's a coach material...Just because you were a great Player doesnt mean you're gonna be a good coach,exec


I would only disagree with your assessment of BRK=DAL. Kyrie is not the same teammate he was there, not close. KD is infamous for being the thinnest skinned professional athlete of all time. There's no comparison with Harden, the most empty stat producing "star" in NBA history, not to mention the wet dumpster fire he's left every team since leaving OKC. BRK took the 3 most disgruntled stars and tried to make that work.

Given the debacle in BRK as the only experience, I can't disagree with your assessment of Nash.

Who would you want as HC and GM?

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