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Post#741 » by moofs » Fri Sep 6, 2013 10:56 pm

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jwise44 wrote:Miley is not attractive to me

Insert obligatory elbows too pointy gif (looking at u rocketsballin)

And I say that not even on judging her against other famous people. She just looks weird to me and always has


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Gonna have to second jwise here, she's pretty fugly.
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Re: OT: (NSFW) Lady Gaga hits the weights (NSFW) 

Post#742 » by spolgar » Sat Sep 7, 2013 5:10 am

*EDIT* Woops. Shouldn't quote cult of the dead cow in public. My bad.

However, it does seem like she's basically singing songs written by the weeknd, without any of the intended irony.

I'm not sure if that is sad or not.
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Re: The OT Thread 

Post#743 » by Ribalding » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:03 am

I was so disapointed ESPN didn't replay this during the game. Knew when I got home Deadspin would have the hookup. They delivered.

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Re: The OT Thread 

Post#744 » by jwise44 » Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:49 pm

That bird guy that got smacked by manning is the oddest linebacker ever. He looks skinny and tall as hell with no muscle definition....never heard of him until last night and he annoyed the crap out of me
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Re: The OT Thread 

Post#745 » by zapatasblood » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:34 am

Wow did anybody ever think Mac Brown could ever get fired from UT.
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Re: The OT Thread 

Post#746 » by jwise44 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:54 pm

zapatasblood wrote:Wow did anybody ever think Mac Brown could ever get fired from UT.

He got fired? I grew up a ut fanbut went to A&m crazy he was fired
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Re: The OT Thread 

Post#747 » by zapatasblood » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:36 pm

No not just yet but he be by years end. He just got the dreaded vote of confidence from the president and as I remember that always mean a firing follows.
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Re: The OT Thread 

Post#748 » by Mr. E » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:50 pm

zapatasblood wrote:No not just yet but he be by years end. He just got the dreaded vote of confidence from the president and as I remember that always mean a firing follows.


Ouch...the "vote of confidence" is never a good thing!

As someone with no rooting interest in UT looking in as an outsider I'd be more surprised if he was not fired at this point. That program needs a serious change in direction/culture.
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Re: The OT Thread 

Post#749 » by Nebula1 » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:40 pm

moofs wrote:http://wagesofwins.com/2013/09/05/ideas-for-fixing-the-nba-draft/

How to fix the NBA draft.
I dig this idea.



Not a bad idea, but I think more than needed.

I'd change the draft in 3 ways:

1. If a team drafts 1-3, that team becomes ineligible for a 1-3 pick for 2 seasons

2. Alternate by conference the top 6 picks

3. Reverse the Second Round so worst team picks last (i.e. Cleveland would overall have #1 and #60, while Miami would have #30 and #31 in 2013)
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Post#750 » by moofs » Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:17 pm

1 barely happens and would cause fanbase backlash from bad small market teams. 2 and 3 aren't bad ideas though, I like them.
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Re: The OT Thread 

Post#751 » by Nebula1 » Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:31 pm

moofs wrote:1 barely happens and would cause fanbase backlash from bad small market teams. 2 and 3 aren't bad ideas though, I like them.


Why would there be backlash? I don't think it's very fair Cleveland gets #1 in both 2011 and 2013. This way, going forward, the best Cleveland can get is #4 in 2014 or 2015 and I believe this discourages outright tanking.


Just projecting it out..

2013 top 3 (become ineligible for top 3 in 2014 or 2015):

1. Cleveland
2. Orlando
3. Washington

2014 top 3 (become inelgible for top 3 in 2015 and 2016):

1. Phoenix
2. Boston
3. Philadelphia

2015 top 3 (become ineligible for top 3 in 2016 and 2017)

1. ?
2. ?
3. ?

This is when it starts really getting interesting since Cleveland, Orlando, Washington, Phoenix, Boston, and Philadelphia are all out of the running. Theoretically the seventh worst team record could now get a #1 pick and thus not forced to outright tank or strip a roster. It also forces those 6 teams to restructure their rebuild considering the best they can do is #4.


*Perhaps tweak it to only picks #1 and #2, but I like the idea in terms of discouraging tanking.
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Re: The OT Thread 

Post#752 » by Nebula1 » Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:02 pm

Do most Rockets/Texans fans post on ClutchFans?

RealGM is better than that site.
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Post#753 » by moofs » Thu Sep 19, 2013 1:58 pm

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Re: The OT Thread 

Post#754 » by moofs » Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:00 pm

Nebula1 wrote:Why would there be backlash? I don't think it's very fair Cleveland gets #1 in both 2011 and 2013. This way, going forward, the best Cleveland can get is #4 in 2014 or 2015 and I believe this discourages outright tanking.

Just projecting it out..

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This is when it starts really getting interesting since Cleveland, Orlando, Washington, Phoenix, Boston, and Philadelphia are all out of the running. Theoretically the seventh worst team record could now get a #1 pick and thus not forced to outright tank or strip a roster. It also forces those 6 teams to restructure their rebuild considering the best they can do is #4.

*Perhaps tweak it to only picks #1 and #2, but I like the idea in terms of discouraging tanking.


Ah, I see your mechanism now, very nice! In theory, anyway. I don't think discouraging tanking is really a goal, though. You know how in politics they're always trying to "balance the budget" yet constantly run massive deficits? Same thing.
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Re: The OT Thread 

Post#755 » by Slava » Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:14 pm

Nebula1 wrote:
moofs wrote:http://wagesofwins.com/2013/09/05/ideas-for-fixing-the-nba-draft/

How to fix the NBA draft.
I dig this idea.



Not a bad idea, but I think more than needed.

I'd change the draft in 3 ways:

1. If a team drafts 1-3, that team becomes ineligible for a 1-3 pick for 2 seasons

2. Alternate by conference the top 6 picks

3. Reverse the Second Round so worst team picks last (i.e. Cleveland would overall have #1 and #60, while Miami would have #30 and #31 in 2013)


This is a good idea but rather than enforce a strict rule I'd propose adding a numerical penalty into the lottery odds calculation for each further season based on your draft picks positions over the previous 3-5 seasons.

If it seems fair to add harsher repeater luxury tax penalties, there should also be a harsher punishment for sucking far too long and without any noticeable effort to get better (Charlotte).
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Re: The OT Thread 

Post#756 » by spolgar » Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:07 pm

Essay time:

If we want to stop tanking, what we have to address is how one can reduce competetive parity quickly. This means we have to throw out the textbook of rebuilding through the draft as 'the proper way', and make trades and free agent acquisitions easier.

To do it with draft picks is to a) rewards luck b) rewards tanking and c) reward long term talent evalutaion and d) does NOT reward short and medium term business acumen. I can see why folks have an issue with it. However, the biggest issue here is that we are penalizing people for tanking year after year, when in reality expansion franchises or new ownership generally have no choice but to start anew, and have to rebuild for at least 3 years. They aren't tanking, they just suck and rebuilding means sucking for a while.

It is also not out of the realm of possibility that a young prospect decides not to co-operate, demand to be traded, or heaven forbid, get injured within the first few seasons. Most of the time, there is more than enough blame to go around as the situation worsens, but it's seldom the sole responsibility of the business. Meanwhile, the NBA product as a whole is losing value.

The NBA is a business to make money by entertaining people, and what the audience craves are the usual cadre of winners and likeable up and comers challengers. You can have bad guys win, you can have good guys lose, but in the end, the fans want to smell blood and are spoiling for a good fight. Very few people wants to pay 50 bucks to go see a boxing match and have it be over in 3 rounds, so why would anyone want to watch a regular season game where the game has been decided by the half.

To stop tanking, something like 'The Decision' should happen every other year. As a team, if you win 30 games or less, you get to pitch to which ever free agnet you want and sign them for however much they want to be paid. Furthermore, you should be allowed to go over the cap to do it. However, luxury tax considerations will still hold. The caveat here is that the player gets to stay on that contract for only 1 year and the team loses your bird rights. So the team gets to get their draft picks, the team maintains some respectability, and the star player doesn't want to tank. He'll go hard as hell for some large figure, say 40 million a year. Then the season ends, the player can look around his situation. If they win more than 30 games, he can't resign for over the cap now, so he can opt to stay with the team under the constraints of the salary cap as a free agent signing. Or he can decide to bring his game to another desperate employer. If he can't bring a 15+ game difference and at least take a lottery team from the previous year to the first round again, he's unlikely getting signed for 'over the cap' money ever again.

In the long run, this will stop tanking. You'll see a lot of stupid owners in the interim try and short cut their way to the conference semis and realize that they just paid 80 million for a rental. But you'll also see a lot of smarter free agents and new ownership take a gamble and revitalize a fan base.
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Post#757 » by moofs » Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:45 am

I'ma need some game links come seasontime after canceling my Comcast after 8 years because they thought they could blackmail me into paying 160 for cable and Internet.

TWO years ago I was paying $60. Not likely.
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Re: The OT Thread 

Post#758 » by spolgar » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:32 am

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Re: The OT Thread 

Post#759 » by Nebula1 » Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:35 pm

moofs wrote:I'ma need some game links come seasontime after canceling my Comcast after 8 years because they thought they could blackmail me into paying 160 for cable and Internet.

TWO years ago I was paying $60. Not likely.



I'm running into that problem as well. I won't pay Comcast that kind of money, especially since I'm not satisfied with my internet.

And of course, getting League Pass Broadband means we're blacked out of Rockets games despite not having cable.
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Post#760 » by moofs » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:07 pm

I just cancelled my Verizon, too. After 15 years of paying <75 (generally 50-60) they hiked me to 125 and started slapping me with penalties. I'm NOT paying nearly $4000 a year for freaking tv, Internet, and mobile phone.
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