Hassan Whiteside: Road To The Max

[MettaWorldPanda]

Whoa, just heard from a source high within the org(who there I will not say) Very high chance whiteside is traded by the deadline. Believe it if you want or don't, just relaying the msg.

Just going by my guy feeling - I can see it happening. Despite him not having much value due to contract.

They're not feeling his mental state. I can just get this vibe all over. We've got veteran leaders that achieved a lot, they have no patience for immature egos.

He's a good player, but he's not really a wining player (yet), and that's why they don't feel it's worth it.

The all "not Heat type of player" buzz we've been hearing could be legit.

Of course it's legit. It's coming from every single major source in our market. They all can't be wrong

[Rich2Hassan]

I just heard from a reliable source within the org, (believe me if you want) that the team has no intentions of trading Whiteside. So take if for what it's worth.

[spastic]

I'd trade spoelstra before i'd ever trade whiteside.

[Rich2Hassan]

You guys think that trading Whiteside is going to solve all of our problems, new flash IT AIN'T!! This team has deeper issues like coaching, what's the true order of the "pecking order", front office has one vision, the coaching staff has another. Everything is all over the place, we don't really know what's going to happen, until it happens. So continue to blame Whiteside if you want, he's the least of our problems. I'm willing to bet anyone on here IF he's traded, we will still be the same team, and probably a tad bit worse.

[KingDavid]

Whoa, just heard from a source high within the org(who there I will not say) Very high chance whiteside is traded by the deadline. Believe it if you want or don't, just relaying the msg.

Such a shame. I guess they know Whiteside wants to leave. That could be the only reason they'd get rid of him now and get something out of the trade.

So we have no draft picks. No one other than TJ and Winslow for the future. Just a bunch of cap space. So that means we're going to overpay for a role player anyway. And Wade getting a massive contract again and Bosh still on the books. What free agents are available next season other than Durant and Batum?

[Heat_Fan_87]

I'd trade spoelstra before i'd ever trade whiteside.

I just heard from a reliable source within the org, (believe me if you want) that the team has no intentions of trading Whiteside. So take if for what it's worth.

[wAtChOut218]

Riley is going to go all-in at trade deadline. Like it or not he's not wasting his last few years / Wade's last few years being middle of the fodder. If you don't get Durant in Free Agency there is nothing that turns this team into a title contender.

From what I hear and know I would not be surprised to see Whiteside/McRoberts package traded for Ryan Anderson. Deng/Winslow package traded for Carmelo. Gives you a really strong starting 5 with proper spacing, but you are missing a defensive stopper, and really have no depth -- but that's what you can fix this summer and really go championship or bust in 2017.

[Bishop45]

yet we think we want lance or cousins on this team.

Pass on Cousins.

So trade Whiteside but don't think that's solving any of our problems.

Me neither Pa', I'm with it.

[RexBoyWonder]

It's not like we need to trade Hassan, we won't get much in return and he's a good player and he's making small money.

if we're looking to trade him there can only be justification - he's a cancer with his ego and personality, and not a team/Heat type player and they can't stand him around and don't see him staying past this season.

Those are things we as fans can't judge. but it's possible, we're seeing the signs popping up.

If he's not a locker room cancer and indeed coachable, I would get rid of Spo and give another coach a chance to make our players click before I let go of a potentially very good defensive anchor.

Very strange situation. You can tell we need a change but I really don't know what kind.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Whoa, just heard from a source high within the org(who there I will not say) Very high chance whiteside is traded by the deadline. Believe it if you want or don't, just relaying the msg.

Such a shame. I guess they know Whiteside wants to leave. That could be the only reason they'd get rid of him now and get something out of the trade.

So we have no draft picks. No one other than TJ and Winslow for the future. Just a bunch of cap space. So that means we're going to overpay for a role player anyway. And Wade getting a massive contract again and Bosh still on the books. What free agents are available next season other than Durant and Batum?

Hey now. We still have the D League pipeline

[MettaWorldPanda]

It's not like we need to trade Hassan, we won't get much in return and he's a good player and he's making small money.

if we're looking to trade him there can only be justification - he's a cancer with his ego and personality, and not a team/Heat type player and they can't stand him around and don't see him staying past this season.

Those are things we as fans can't judge. but it's possible, we're seeing the signs popping up.

If he's not a locker room cancer and indeed coachable, I would get rid of Spo and give another coach a chance to make our players click before I let go of a potentially very good defensive anchor.

Very strange situation. You can tell we need a change but I really don't know what kind.

I'm starting to lean on that he may be turning into a locker room cancer. Maybe they want to get him away from Winslow.

[KingDavid]

I just heard from a reliable source within the org, (believe me if you want) that the team has no intentions of trading Whiteside. So take if for what it's worth.

Must be the same source that introduced you to Napier.

There's a fallout brewing either way. He may be packaged with deng for a player that fits better down here.

Won't solve anything though and it would torch our entire frontcourt. Maybe we can send them to NO? Get Ryan Anderson in return?

Dragic
Wade
Winslow/Green
Anderson
Bosh

I wouldn't trust us on defense, and our bench would still be dead, but it's something.

[KingDavid]

It's not like we need to trade Hassan, we won't get much in return and he's a good player and he's making small money.

if we're looking to trade him there can only be justification - he's a cancer with his ego and personality, and not a team/Heat type player and they can't stand him around and don't see him staying past this season.

Those are things we as fans can't judge. but it's possible, we're seeing the signs popping up.

If he's not a locker room cancer and indeed coachable, I would get rid of Spo and give another coach a chance to make our players click before I let go of a potentially very good defensive anchor.

Very strange situation. You can tell we need a change but I really don't know what kind.

I'm starting to lean on that he may be turning into a locker room cancer. Maybe they want to get him away from Winslow.

That's a bit ridiculous.

[Rich2Hassan]

It's not like we need to trade Hassan, we won't get much in return and he's a good player and he's making small money.

if we're looking to trade him there can only be justification - he's a cancer with his ego and personality, and not a team/Heat type player and they can't stand him around and don't see him staying past this season.

Those are things we as fans can't judge. but it's possible, we're seeing the signs popping up.

If he's not a locker room cancer and indeed coachable, I would get rid of Spo and give another coach a chance to make our players click before I let go of a potentially very good defensive anchor.

Very strange situation. You can tell we need a change but I really don't know what kind.

I'm starting to lean on that he may be turning into a locker room cancer. Maybe they want to get him away from Winslow.

Are you serious??!! WOW i've heard it all. Winslow can't be influenced by anyone, he is an adult. Green is a knucklehead but, yet we never hear anyone call him out. It's obvious you guys are letting the media control your minds and make you believe that Hassan is really the issue here. WOW, i just can't believe what i'm reading lately.

[Rich2Hassan]

It's not like we need to trade Hassan, we won't get much in return and he's a good player and he's making small money.

if we're looking to trade him there can only be justification - he's a cancer with his ego and personality, and not a team/Heat type player and they can't stand him around and don't see him staying past this season.

Those are things we as fans can't judge. but it's possible, we're seeing the signs popping up.

If he's not a locker room cancer and indeed coachable, I would get rid of Spo and give another coach a chance to make our players click before I let go of a potentially very good defensive anchor.

Very strange situation. You can tell we need a change but I really don't know what kind.

I'm starting to lean on that he may be turning into a locker room cancer. Maybe they want to get him away from Winslow.

That's a bit ridiculous.

+1 , i can't believe he said that. The media (Skolnick) is powerful.

[KingDavid]

Whoa, just heard from a source high within the org(who there I will not say) Very high chance whiteside is traded by the deadline. Believe it if you want or don't, just relaying the msg.

Such a shame. I guess they know Whiteside wants to leave. That could be the only reason they'd get rid of him now and get something out of the trade.

So we have no draft picks. No one other than TJ and Winslow for the future. Just a bunch of cap space. So that means we're going to overpay for a role player anyway. And Wade getting a massive contract again and Bosh still on the books. What free agents are available next season other than Durant and Batum?

Hey now. We still have the D League pipeline

That'll start to happen less. D-league is picking up popularity now that teams are noticing that there's potential talent out there.

[Heat_Fan_87]

It's not like we need to trade Hassan, we won't get much in return and he's a good player and he's making small money.

if we're looking to trade him there can only be justification - he's a cancer with his ego and personality, and not a team/Heat type player and they can't stand him around and don't see him staying past this season.

Those are things we as fans can't judge. but it's possible, we're seeing the signs popping up.

If he's not a locker room cancer and indeed coachable, I would get rid of Spo and give another coach a chance to make our players click before I let go of a potentially very good defensive anchor.

Very strange situation. You can tell we need a change but I really don't know what kind.

I'm starting to lean on that he may be turning into a locker room cancer. Maybe they want to get him away from Winslow.

I just think he is very immature and not able to comprehend what is required to not only play at a championship level but also behave like a professional. He is not a guy that is going to get arrested or do something stupid, but i just think he lacks the situational awareness that riley wants his players to have.

[Rich2Hassan]

I just heard from a reliable source within the org, (believe me if you want) that the team has no intentions of trading Whiteside. So take if for what it's worth.

Must be the same source that introduced you to Napier.

There's a fallout brewing either way. He may be packaged with deng for a player that fits better down here.

Won't solve anything though and it would torch our entire frontcourt. Maybe we can send them to NO? Get Ryan Anderson in return?

Dragic
Wade
Winslow/Green
Anderson
Bosh

I wouldn't trust us on defense, and our bench would still be dead, but it's something.

My point was, it's easy to post anything and make ish up. He has no sources.

[wAtChOut218]

The Heat FO and coaching staff is completely fed up with Hassan. The guy has a terrible selfish attitude and if he isn't getting his stats he could care less if the team wins or looses. It's all about him and his #'s. He is not Miami Heat culture and I don't think anyone but a LeBron type player would force Riley and the Heat to "bend their rules"

Think of it this way -- if Hassan played for another team and was a free agent this summer would you think he would be a real Heat target this summer to use max cap space on? I personally don't think it would even be a conversation.

Keep in mind this is him making $950k playing his ass off to get the $Max. Do you really want to find out who this guy is / how hard he works for $100m in guaranteed money? I know I don't.

[Rich2Hassan]

The Heat FO and coaching staff is completely fed up with Hassan. The guy has a terrible selfish attitude and if he isn't getting his stats he could care less if the team wins or looses. It's all about him and his #'s. He is not Miami Heat culture and I don't think anyone but a LeBron type player would force Riley and the Heat to "bend their rules"

Think of it this way -- if Hassan played for another team and was a free agent this summer would you think he would be a real Heat target this summer to use max cap space on? I personally don't think it would even be a conversation.

Keep in mind this is him making $950k playing his ass off to get the $Max. Do you really want to find out who this guy is / how hard he works for $100m in guaranteed money? I know I don't.

Now this a guy with sauces.