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Post#741 » by Knicksfan20 » Sat May 19, 2018 8:32 pm

QRich3 wrote:Think about it this way, what would you say about the Knicks trading away Noah and #9 for expirings?

Well, same answer for any Gallo + #13 trade. We need young talent, not salary relief. There's just no way the Clippers are using either of the lottery picks to dump salary.

So no.

Um.. we know it would cost our #9 to move Noah. That’s why Noah is still on the team. That’s what it costs to move that much money. Saving close to 20 million dollars as an owner is kind of a big deal to some people.
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Post#742 » by ejftw » Sat May 19, 2018 11:43 pm

Knicksfan20 wrote:
QRich3 wrote:Think about it this way, what would you say about the Knicks trading away Noah and #9 for expirings?

Well, same answer for any Gallo + #13 trade. We need young talent, not salary relief. There's just no way the Clippers are using either of the lottery picks to dump salary.

So no.

Um.. we know it would cost our #9 to move Noah. That’s why Noah is still on the team. That’s what it costs to move that much money. Saving close to 20 million dollars as an owner is kind of a big deal to some people.


If Gallo has a healthy season, he will recuperate some of his value and be dealt easier next summer, or maybe at the deadline.

Noah, on the other end, is dead weight with his regressed play, contract and issues with coaches.
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Post#743 » by Knicksfan20 » Sun May 20, 2018 8:47 am

ejftw wrote:
Knicksfan20 wrote:
QRich3 wrote:Think about it this way, what would you say about the Knicks trading away Noah and #9 for expirings?

Well, same answer for any Gallo + #13 trade. We need young talent, not salary relief. There's just no way the Clippers are using either of the lottery picks to dump salary.

So no.

Um.. we know it would cost our #9 to move Noah. That’s why Noah is still on the team. That’s what it costs to move that much money. Saving close to 20 million dollars as an owner is kind of a big deal to some people.


If Gallo has a healthy season, he will recuperate some of his value and be dealt easier next summer, or maybe at the deadline.

Noah, on the other end, is dead weight with his regressed play, contract and issues with coaches.


20 million is 20 million
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Post#744 » by nickhx2 » Sun May 20, 2018 11:31 am

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Post#745 » by ejftw » Sun May 20, 2018 2:49 pm

Knicksfan20 wrote:
ejftw wrote:
Knicksfan20 wrote:Um.. we know it would cost our #9 to move Noah. That’s why Noah is still on the team. That’s what it costs to move that much money. Saving close to 20 million dollars as an owner is kind of a big deal to some people.


If Gallo has a healthy season, he will recuperate some of his value and be dealt easier next summer, or maybe at the deadline.

Noah, on the other end, is dead weight with his regressed play, contract and issues with coaches.


20 million is 20 million


20 million on a contributing player is different than 20 million deadweight that causes issues.
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Post#746 » by TucsonClip » Sun May 20, 2018 10:43 pm

Knicksfan20 wrote:
ejftw wrote:
Knicksfan20 wrote:Um.. we know it would cost our #9 to move Noah. That’s why Noah is still on the team. That’s what it costs to move that much money. Saving close to 20 million dollars as an owner is kind of a big deal to some people.


If Gallo has a healthy season, he will recuperate some of his value and be dealt easier next summer, or maybe at the deadline.

Noah, on the other end, is dead weight with his regressed play, contract and issues with coaches.


20 million is 20 million


What is paying Gallo $20 mil this season preventing the Clippers from accomplishing? What about next season when nearly their entire books are wiped clean? If need be, Gallo is moved next summer.

All that before mentioning hes a pretty important rotation piece.
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Post#747 » by Knicksfan20 » Sun May 20, 2018 10:48 pm

20 million is 20 million.

I asked and i got my answer. But if you wanted to move Gallo’s contract hypothetically, it would cost a first rounder to do so.

If the team needed cap space, or wanted to just shed salary, then it makes sense to move him. He barely plays and is always injured. Being payed 20 million. It’s a lot of money.

Yes maybe you can move him next year, but it’s going to cost you to do so.
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Post#748 » by TucsonClip » Sun May 20, 2018 10:53 pm

Knicksfan20 wrote:20 million is 20 million.

I asked and i got my answer. But if you wanted to move Gallo’s contract hypothetically, it would cost a first rounder to do so.


Which is why it's not happening. More value in holding on to him than there is giving up an asset to remove him. Clippers need him next season, barring some unseen move coming to improve wing depth.
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Post#749 » by nickhx2 » Tue May 22, 2018 3:05 pm

reading tt these days

thread: is 12, 13, Harris, and 20 thru 25 unprotected enough to get someone to take on Gallo's contact?
reply: nah clips are giving up too much. give them back a second rounder and now the trade is even
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Post#750 » by NotACat » Wed May 23, 2018 4:16 am

Magic fan here. If the Clippers can't land someone like Towns, do you think they would trade picks 12 and 13 for 6?
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Post#751 » by nickhx2 » Wed May 23, 2018 7:12 am

like 100% they would. one of bamba, bagley, or porter would be pretty huge to align with harris.

but i don't see why magic would wanna do that. would you be able to elaborate on any reasons why? i think most would agree that there's a sizable drop off from what you can get at 6 to what you can get at 12/13.
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Post#752 » by zaymon » Wed May 23, 2018 5:42 pm

As a magic fan i had the same idea. We are in the middle of team cleaning, we propably dont see a star with the 6th pick. Is it so certain Young will be a star, that you dont try with DiVincenzo and Huerter with 12 and 13 for example ? Its obviously extremely hard decision, and i dont have enough data to support this trade, but our new FO is not very high on most of our guys and we will propably need replacements.
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Post#753 » by ejftw » Thu May 24, 2018 6:47 am

If Bagley/Bamba/JJJ are available at #6, I see the Clippers doing that. I'm not buying the Porter interest unless the medical records have been released and the Clippers see nothing there as we have an atrocious medical staff (how does Jasen Powell have a job?).

I could see Orlando as well, though, they have an influx of youth, they really don't have a guy I can point at and say, "That's the leader." I've never bought the Aaron Gordon hype, and was disappointed in what Isaac showed during his rookie campaign. Say a duo of SGA & Knox, who already have chemistry together, could pay dividends to Orlando.
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Post#754 » by GatorbaitDD » Thu May 24, 2018 12:44 pm

Most Magic fans won't be on board, but I'd be good with #6 for #12 & #13 assuming Shai is available at one of those picks. We need an overhaul on the roster and I'm not sold on Porter Jr. staying healthy, or Youngs impact in the league. I'd hold if Bamba were available at #6.
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Post#755 » by No-Man » Thu May 24, 2018 1:19 pm

There is no way Jerry West is targeting Bamba in any shape or form
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Post#756 » by QRich3 » Thu May 24, 2018 1:39 pm

Ya, and I also think he doesn't see the value we see in jumping half a dozen spots, they've all been preaching how confident they are in finding good players where they're gonna pick, I think they're happier to take two stabs at the end of the lottery than they would be with a 6th pick.

I'd probably rather have the chance at a high end prospect, but I don't know sh*t about talent evaluation and that's why I'm a working class fool and he's making a bunch of millions to consult. So I'm excited to sit back and watch whatever they end up doing on draft night.

I know it doesn't work like that, but randomly looking at recent drafts, everyone would be happier with a Donovan Mitchell or a Devin Booker than a Jonathan Isaac or a Willie Cauley-Stein. My point being that they're confident they can identify those guys who fall down, and they'd rather get another player if they think they can get what they want anyway.
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Post#757 » by zaymon » Thu May 24, 2018 1:48 pm

ejftw wrote:If Bagley/Bamba/JJJ are available at #6, I see the Clippers doing that. I'm not buying the Porter interest unless the medical records have been released and the Clippers see nothing there as we have an atrocious medical staff (how does Jasen Powell have a job?).

I could see Orlando as well, though, they have an influx of youth, they really don't have a guy I can point at and say, "That's the leader." I've never bought the Aaron Gordon hype, and was disappointed in what Isaac showed during his rookie campaign. Say a duo of SGA & Knox, who already have chemistry together, could pay dividends to Orlando.

I just dont think 6 th pick is a good place for Orlando right now unless they view Young, Porter or Bridges as key pieces moving forward. It all depends on how our FO sees players but we need good pg/sg/sf and you want bigger guy from what you write. We dont need Bagley, JJJ, Bamba we have Isaac
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Re: Transaction Discussion Part 3 (Trades, Free-Agency, News, Rumors & Ideas) 

Post#758 » by snowman » Thu May 24, 2018 8:47 pm

Would the clippers consider a sign and trade of Marcus Smart and the return of the Clippers 2019 pick for the 13th pick?
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Post#759 » by janmagn » Thu May 24, 2018 9:01 pm

snowman wrote:Would the clippers consider a sign and trade of Marcus Smart and the return of the Clippers 2019 pick for the 13th pick?
What does Marcus Smart give to us that Beverley or Bradley can't give?

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Post#760 » by og15 » Thu May 24, 2018 9:09 pm

janmagn wrote:
snowman wrote:Would the clippers consider a sign and trade of Marcus Smart and the return of the Clippers 2019 pick for the 13th pick?
What does Marcus Smart give to us that Beverley or Bradley can't give?

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Better size, he plays a lot bigger than them, and also Bradley is not as good a defender as many people think.

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