2019 Draft Discussion - Draft Day!

[RunDogGun]

6 for 10 + 17!
Take Clarke and use 17 in a package for someone like Dinwiddie.

It would be odd though, and a bit funny to trade them back their #17 pick. Plus we would have to wait for FA period to start I think, for them to trade Din's contract. It would all depend on who they pick up in FA, and what needs they may have. They just picked up TPrince in that Crabbe trade.

As far as the ATL trading partner, I would still want to do a different package. Maybe the 6th, 32nd and the Milw pick for the 8 and 10. That way they get a 1st for next year, while still having two 1st round picks this year. They can then package many of those second rounders for someone else, or draft and stash players for the future.

Then we can make some choices of possible trades and drafting a player we may want. For example moving trading the 8th with salary fillers for a starting point guard, and draft Clarke with the 10th pick. Then use our Standard MLE for a starting PF, since we will most likely still be over the cap.

This is just way off in terms of value. The #8 and #6 are barely different in terms of value. They're basically trading the #10 for the MIL pick. Come on, RDG. You're smart than this.

And yet it would all depend on who they may target at the 6th position, knowing that that player may not be there at the #8. I am thinking outside the box, and in a way, placing my hope that they want someone at 6. If they don't, then there is no need to trade for them, other than to get rid of some of those draft picks, or get a vet with the 8,10, 17th picks.

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If they are targeting someone that high in the draft, then it may take more picks than I was suggesting. So then it all hinges on Who they are targeting.

[WeekapaugGroove]

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Culver is the only guy that could be available at 6 that I would be truly annoyed is the suns passed on. I'm really into the idea of him and Booker sharing the backcourt.

Id never thought of a Barrett Michael Finley comp but I like it. Finley was one of my favorite players growing up so I guess that makes me like Barrett a little more (he's still someone who scares me).

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[taj2133]

If Garland was to fall to No. 6 — likely if the Lakers pass on him at No. 4 — he’d be the projected selection here. However, the feeling around the league is that the Suns would prefer a veteran guard, something that they’ll have ample opportunity to acquire via trade or free agency. There are also mixed reports both from public sources and sources who have spoken privately with The Athletic as to whether or not this pick could be moved. The Suns do want to see tangible growth in regard to record this season after four straight seasons of 24 wins or fewer.
https://theathletic.com/1010182/2019/06/07/vecenie-2019-nba-mock-draft-5-0-trade-discussions-impacting-projections/?source=rss

[WeekapaugGroove]

If the suns do draft Garland or White at 6 I'd make some calls to see if 32 and one of Okobo or Melton could get up high enough to grab Grant Williams. He'd be a nice backup 4 who could probably give you 15-20 minutes a night his rookie year.


My other preferred route at 32 is to take a back up C like gafford or claxon. Good cheap route for a spot they need depth and there's some decent rim runners who should be available there.

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[BobbieL]

If the suns do draft Garland or White at 6 I'd make some calls to see if 32 and one of Okobo or Melton could get up high enough to grab Grant Williams. He'd be a nice backup 4 who could probably give you 15-20 minutes a night his rookie year.


My other preferred route at 32 is to take a back up C like gafford or claxon. Good cheap route for a spot they need depth and there's some decent rim runners who should be available there.

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Each time I see Jordan Bell with the Warriors - I think "what if" - he seemed like such an easy pick to me at the time. Just defend, block shots, hit the glass, run the floor and who cares how many fouls you get.

[MathiasPW]

If the suns do draft Garland or White at 6 I'd make some calls to see if 32 and one of Okobo or Melton could get up high enough to grab Grant Williams. He'd be a nice backup 4 who could probably give you 15-20 minutes a night his rookie year.


My other preferred route at 32 is to take a back up C like gafford or claxon. Good cheap route for a spot they need depth and there's some decent rim runners who should be available there.

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Flash news: won't make the roster.

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[WeekapaugGroove]

If the suns do draft Garland or White at 6 I'd make some calls to see if 32 and one of Okobo or Melton could get up high enough to grab Grant Williams. He'd be a nice backup 4 who could probably give you 15-20 minutes a night his rookie year.


My other preferred route at 32 is to take a back up C like gafford or claxon. Good cheap route for a spot they need depth and there's some decent rim runners who should be available there.

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Flash news: won't make the roster.

If they keep the pick the 32 guy will make the roster. Teams never cut that early of a 2nd rounder their rookie year. You have 15 roster spots there's plenty of room. The suns don't have a ton of assets, can't just throw them away.

Now there's a decent chance they trade this pick or could take a draft and stash euro.

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[MathiasPW]

If the suns do draft Garland or White at 6 I'd make some calls to see if 32 and one of Okobo or Melton could get up high enough to grab Grant Williams. He'd be a nice backup 4 who could probably give you 15-20 minutes a night his rookie year.


My other preferred route at 32 is to take a back up C like gafford or claxon. Good cheap route for a spot they need depth and there's some decent rim runners who should be available there.

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Flash news: won't make the roster.

If they keep the pick the 32 guy will make the roster. Teams never cut that early of a 2nd rounder their rookie year. You have 15 roster spots there's plenty of room. The suns don't have a ton of assets, can't just throw them away.

Now there's a decent chance they trade this pick or could take a draft and stash euro.

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I am not so sure. We have 11 players under contract (not counting Fredette, but assuming Oubre resigns), of which 2 or 3 (Okobo, Melton, Spalding) are barely deserving of playtime, yet. If you have 4 spots to fill all the holes (skills-wise: playmaking, rebounding, rim protection, 3 pt shooting; role-wise: ball-handler, facilitator, shooter, backup big(s)) in the roster, I am skeptical they will bring in any rookies at all.

[Desertfox]

Can you draft and stash Luka Samanic? Looks like a good PF to take a flyer on.

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[WeekapaugGroove]

Flash news: won't make the roster.

If they keep the pick the 32 guy will make the roster. Teams never cut that early of a 2nd rounder their rookie year. You have 15 roster spots there's plenty of room. The suns don't have a ton of assets, can't just throw them away.

Now there's a decent chance they trade this pick or could take a draft and stash euro.

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I am not so sure. We have 11 players under contract (not counting Fredette, but assuming Oubre resigns), of which 2 or 3 (Okobo, Melton, Spalding) are barely deserving of playtime, yet. If you have 4 spots to fill all the holes (skills-wise: playmaking, rebounding, rim protection, 3 pt shooting; role-wise: ball-handler, facilitator, shooter, backup big(s)) in the roster, I am skeptical they will bring in any rookies at all.

Can't see any way they'd keep Spalding over this pick. I doubt both Okobo and Melton are back one or maybe even both could be traded. I would be absolutely shocked if both Jackson and Warren are both on the roster.

Overall my point is drafting someone at 32 and cutting them would be a very poor use of an asset and that early of a 2nd round pick is absolutely an asset.

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[bennjuiced34]

Bulls fan here. One of our best beat guys, KC Johnson said he heard White had a promise from a team before 7 after White left the combine.

Kyler is saying he's hearing its the Bulls who made that promise.

You guys hear anything on your interest in White at all? Couldn't be the Cavs right? Doubling up on scoring off ball PGs 2 years in a row?

Bulls have been dead silent on workouts at 7. Only one we know about is Culver because he said it during his Knicks workout.

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[bwgood77]

Bulls fan here. One of our best beat guys, KC Johnson said he heard White had a promise from a team before 7 after White left the combine.

Kyler is saying he's hearing its the Bulls who made that promise.

You guys hear anything on your interest in White at all? Couldn't be the Cavs right? Doubling up on scoring off ball PGs 2 years in a row?

Bulls have been dead silent on workouts at 7. Only one we know about is Culver because he said it during his Knicks workout.

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I'd be pretty surprised if we gave anyone a promise.

[Crives]

Bulls fan here. One of our best beat guys, KC Johnson said he heard White had a promise from a team before 7 after White left the combine.

Kyler is saying he's hearing its the Bulls who made that promise.

You guys hear anything on your interest in White at all? Couldn't be the Cavs right? Doubling up on scoring off ball PGs 2 years in a row?

Bulls have been dead silent on workouts at 7. Only one we know about is Culver because he said it during his Knicks workout.

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Suns have leaked that no promises have been made, but you never know.

[bennjuiced34]

Bulls fan here. One of our best beat guys, KC Johnson said he heard White had a promise from a team before 7 after White left the combine.

Kyler is saying he's hearing its the Bulls who made that promise.

You guys hear anything on your interest in White at all? Couldn't be the Cavs right? Doubling up on scoring off ball PGs 2 years in a row?

Bulls have been dead silent on workouts at 7. Only one we know about is Culver because he said it during his Knicks workout.

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I'd be pretty surprised if we gave anyone a promise.

It feels like something the Bulls would do. They promised Hutchison last year during the combine.

But KC is usually pretty spot on so I was just curious. Especially with the rumor you guys were open to trading for a veteran PG.

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[WeekapaugGroove]

Bulls fan here. One of our best beat guys, KC Johnson said he heard White had a promise from a team before 7 after White left the combine.

Kyler is saying he's hearing its the Bulls who made that promise.

You guys hear anything on your interest in White at all? Couldn't be the Cavs right? Doubling up on scoring off ball PGs 2 years in a row?

Bulls have been dead silent on workouts at 7. Only one we know about is Culver because he said it during his Knicks workout.

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I'd be pretty surprised if we gave anyone a promise.

It feels like something the Bulls would do. They promised Hutchison last year during the combine.

But KC is usually pretty spot on so I was just curious. Especially with the rumor you guys were open to trading for a veteran PG.

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I think the suns want to bring in a vet PG regardless of whether they draft a PG or not. I doubt they would have promised white and always take those with a grain of salt because I think agents like to leak that kind of stuff to generate buzz about their clients.

What to bulls fans think of White? Some here are down on him but I think he's fine wouldn't be upset if he's the pick assuming Culver isn't available. Feels like his most likey outcome is flamethrower off the bench but in this poop draft that's not the worst thing.

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[bwgood77]

I thought Kawhi was the next Marion coming out of college. Turns out he was better. Hard to project that he would develop such a great jumper.

Don't think Hunter is in that conversation. Why? Statistical production: same thing I used to predict Kawhi and Marion would be great. Compare Hunter to PJ Tucker all you want; just expect PJ Tucker and not Kawhi Leonard if you draft him.

Now personally, I prefer the guy who gives you the points, rebounds, blocks, steals and super-high FG%. Nice that he's a local kid, as well. I don't understand why Hunter is almost universally projected to be taken ahead of Clarke.

Well most of the respected big boards have Clarke higher rated as a prospect (all 3 Ringer big boards, the stepien, tankathon, redteamscouting, etc) but not a lot of teams are looking that type of player these days.

Everyone wants 3&D wings with long wingspans. We traded up for one last year though and look like we will be signing our other own RFA one. Also there is a lack of 3 pt shooters at the top of this draft which helps Hunter.

Not a ton of teams start a C with as poor of rim protection and DFG% near the rim as we do https://stats.nba.com/players/defense-dash-lt6/?Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&sort=LT_06_PCT&dir=1&PlayerPosition=C&CF=GP*G*60

and gets outrebounded in most games due to lack of a rebounding PF. Teams in that predicament might look to Clarke, since you don't want a non rim protecting C next to a non rim protecting PF, which is why you see him mocked to Minnesota sometimes....even though Towns is a lot better shot blocker than Ayton and has quite a bit better DFG% within 6 ft of rim (55% compared to 62%).

Of course they also fit perfectly together on offense given that Towns is such a great 3 pt shooter and Clarke is among the elite finishers inside in college history.