NBA ChoK16 - the Rich Cho Thread

[MasterIchiro]

Thank you Tom Sorenson of the Charlotte Observer

...talent acquisition is the weakest facet of this franchise...Cho is the hierarchy’s flaw. Cold but true: If he continues to miss, fans won’t miss him when Charlotte finds a new general manager...My unsolicited advice Thursday is to emphasize instinct over analytics. If you’re going to draft a guy who can run and jump, try to ensure that he can play. If I make the pick I work to move up and take Hezonja. When that fails, I look to move down. When that fails, I take Cauley-Stein.

I get to fail.

Cho does not.

On Cho's picks…

Vonleh

Is he an athlete or a player?

PJ

Hairston spent the season going one-on-one against life. Life won.

Zeller

Zeller is 7-foot and he had the numbers Cho loves; he ran faster and jumped higher than the highly regarded big men that came out in the draft. What we’ve seen in Zeller’s two seasons (the latter cut short by injury): not much.

MKG

In 2012 Charlotte took Michael-Gilchrist with the draft’s second pick. Many of you don’t want to hear this, but MKG can play. He’ll never average 20 points . But he’s relentless, and every season he’s improved every facet of his game. You want him in your locker room and on your roster. In related news, the No. 2 pick in the draft should be pretty good.

Kemba

If Walker refines his jump shot, he’s a potential All-Star.

Biz

Biyombo is a nice guy.

As for Clifford...

Steve Clifford they have a coach who, because of a paucity of talent, has to create rotations with duct tape and hope. Players respect him enormously.

Does he read my stuff?

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/tom-sorensen/article25417390.html#storylink=cpy

[MasterIchiro]

I think he's saying gun for Hezonja, move down and your last resort is WCS. If the pick fails or team flounders again, Cho's gone.

[yosemiteben]

This is a conversation that has been had over and over on here, with the same points being made over and over. Nothing new.

[MasterIchiro]

I'm so glad Tom Sorenson has provided a synopsis of one of the boards most contentious debates. I wrote him a thank you letter. Will post a reply. You won't get that kind of journalistic integrity from Bonnell. He's a yes-man.

[yosemiteben]

It's boring rehashing the same arguments over and over again, so instead here is a genuine question:

If Cho had passed on Vonleh and picked one of Stauskas or McDermott instead, would Cho be safer / get a high approval, despite their very underwhelming rookie seasons?

[JDR720]

yea Cliff and Cho arguments are pretty pointless now, just about everything that can be said has been. Its true Cho could do a better job getting talent (mainly vets, i think his drafting has been good) but Cliff needs to use what talent we do have better.

maybe the scouting shakeup will help things.

[BeesWax]

Sorensen is a moron just like all the other local guys who try at this. He is almost as dumb as Bonnell.

[MasterIchiro]

Sorensen is a moron just like all the other local guys who try at this. He is almost as dumb as Bonnell.

He writes for the Hornets, you write for a pretend GM website.

Just sayin'

[MasterIchiro]

yea Cliff and Cho arguments are pretty pointless now, just about everything that can be said has been. Its true Cho could do a better job getting talent (mainly vets, i think his drafting has been good) but Cliff needs to use what talent we do have better.

maybe the scouting shakeup will help things.

Agree, everything has been said. It was nice to see Sorensen's summary nevertheless. I feel he pretty much just packaged my material and gave the cliff notes for his article. I'm glad he follows me here.

[yosemiteben]

He writes for the Hornets, you write for a pretend GM website.

Just sayin'

You mean he writes "about" the Hornets, just like Bonnell does. So has the built in credibility that Bonnell does, which is not much.

[MasterIchiro]

yea Cliff and Cho arguments are pretty pointless now, just about everything that can be said has been. Its true Cho could do a better job getting talent (mainly vets, i think his drafting has been good) but Cliff needs to use what talent we do have better.

maybe the scouting shakeup will help things.

JDR it is kind of unusual though that Sorenson went after Cho like that. 2011-2015 is four years. This is the first time a Charlotte media personality has gone at Cho.

It was long overdue.

Cho caught everyone with their pants down.

[MasterIchiro]

Bonnell doesn't have the balls to go after Cho. He has not wrote one single negative article about him. Sorenson's is the first Charlotte has seen. It's definitely thread-worthy, not to mention it was published today by the biggest paper in the city.

[MasterIchiro]

So fans offline are seeing that side of the argument for the first time.

[yosemiteben]

So fans offline are seeing that side of the argument for the first time.

I don't think anyone should have a problem with the piece standing alone. I just was pointing out that it shouldn't generate any new discussion on here since every piece of it has been endlessly debated.

[BeesWax]

He writes for the Hornets, you write for a pretend GM website.

Just sayin'

You mean he writes "about" the Hornets, just like Bonnell does. So has the built in credibility that Bonnell does, which is not much.

Yeah acting like writing about the team gives someone credibility is nuts. The line about Noah lets you know the guys has zero clue about the game,

[MasterIchiro]

He writes for the Hornets, you write for a pretend GM website.

Just sayin'

You mean he writes "about" the Hornets, just like Bonnell does. So has the built in credibility that Bonnell does, which is not much.

Yeah acting like writing about the team gives someone credibility is nuts. The line about Noah lets you know the guys has zero clue about the game,

Ok then he writes for the Charlotte Observer and is read by thousands. You write for pretendGM.com for 1 person, 2 maybe.

[Braggins]

I don't 100% agree with where he has placed all the blame, but it is nice to see a Charlotte media person actually being critical of any aspect of the franchise. They usually all seem like company men or lap dogs for the franchise.

[catch20two]

Hol' up. Bonnell called out Cho?! Lol I gotta read this. I might start liking him depending on how he worded it for my entertainment purposes.

[EwingSweatsALot]

You mean he writes "about" the Hornets, just like Bonnell does. So has the built in credibility that Bonnell does, which is not much.

Yeah acting like writing about the team gives someone credibility is nuts. The line about Noah lets you know the guys has zero clue about the game,

Ok then he writes for the Charlotte Observer and is read by thousands. You write for pretendGM.com for 1 person, 2 maybe.

You can't say in one post how Bonnell has no credibility or whatever, and then use the point that Sorensen writes for the Observer as your point of why he has credibility and knows more than someone on here. That logic says that Bonnell knows more than every body on here.

[yosemiteben]

Same roster as last year.

Same old Cho.

Yadda yadda yadda