Official Off-Season Trade/Rumor Thread 2.0

[Altered_Beast]

his rebounding numbers are on par with haslem and hes really not that great of a defender im not too sure about ivan

[Gwynplaine]

What about the Orlando guys? I haven't seen much of them, but I've heard that they have a couple of promising young forwards.. Maurice Harkless, Tobias Harris and Andrew Nicholson.. They can't possibly be keeping all of them. With the tank they have going, they would be in-line to draft another top forward.

Is it possible for us to snag anyone?

[AlexCRO]

What about the Orlando guys? I haven't seen much of them, but I've heard that they have a couple of promising young forwards.. Maurice Harkless, Tobias Harris and Andrew Nicholson.. They can't possibly be keeping all of them. With the tank they have going, they would be in-line to draft another top forward.

Is it possible for us to snag anyone?

harkless is not that good and i dont see the potential. harris has great and i meen great upside in my opinion and he needs a better team to develop but they will not give him. nicholson plays pf, he has some skills but lacks muscle - longtime project

[bluerain]

The heat need a hustle type 4 and that Johnson guy or someone like Lavory Allen from the 76s would be ideal. Dont need nothing to special at the position, but the heat need someone who can make the other team feel them in that position. That whole space and pace thing the wind has kinda of been sucked out of that because the shooters are out of bullets. They are old and tired. The more traditional way might be a little ugly from offense point of view but atleast the defensive schemes would come around.

[AlexCRO]

The heat need a hustle type 4 and that Johnson guy or someone like Lavory Allen from the 76s would be ideal. Dont need nothing to special at the position, but the heat need someone who can make the other team feel them in that position. That whole space and pace thing the wind has kinda of been sucked out of that because the shooters are out of bullets. They are old and tired. The more traditional way might be a little ugly from offense point of view but atleast the defensive schemes would come around.

yes Johnson could be that guy, but how much money will he command, he did go to china for the money because he felt that atlanta didnt offer enough

[RexBoyWonder]

The heat need a hustle type 4 and that Johnson guy or someone like Lavory Allen from the 76s would be ideal. Dont need nothing to special at the position, but the heat need someone who can make the other team feel them in that position. That whole space and pace thing the wind has kinda of been sucked out of that because the shooters are out of bullets. They are old and tired. The more traditional way might be a little ugly from offense point of view but atleast the defensive schemes would come around.

yes Johnson could be that guy, but how much money will he command, he did go to china for the money because he felt that atlanta didnt offer enough

We could've had Johnson before the season started if we wanted him, I think we passed because of character issues.

What about the Orlando guys? I haven't seen much of them, but I've heard that they have a couple of promising young forwards.. Maurice Harkless, Tobias Harris and Andrew Nicholson.. They can't possibly be keeping all of them. With the tank they have going, they would be in-line to draft another top forward.

Is it possible for us to snag anyone?

We cant get Maurice Harkless or Tobias Harris, both are very young with relative high upside. Andrew Nicholson might be more reachable but he's not really a fit here and won't be worth the asking price, decent scorer that can't defend, he's already 24. We got Beasley for that role.

[Gwynplaine]

The heat need a hustle type 4 and that Johnson guy or someone like Lavory Allen from the 76s would be ideal. Dont need nothing to special at the position, but the heat need someone who can make the other team feel them in that position. That whole space and pace thing the wind has kinda of been sucked out of that because the shooters are out of bullets. They are old and tired. The more traditional way might be a little ugly from offense point of view but atleast the defensive schemes would come around.

yes Johnson could be that guy, but how much money will he command, he did go to china for the money because he felt that atlanta didnt offer enough

We could've had Johnson before the season started if we wanted him, I think we passed because of character issues.

What about the Orlando guys? I haven't seen much of them, but I've heard that they have a couple of promising young forwards.. Maurice Harkless, Tobias Harris and Andrew Nicholson.. They can't possibly be keeping all of them. With the tank they have going, they would be in-line to draft another top forward.

Is it possible for us to snag anyone?

We cant get Maurice Harkless or Tobias Harris, both are very young with relative high upside. Andrew Nicholson might be more reachable but he's not really a fit here and won't be worth the asking price, decent scorer that can't defend, he's already 24. We got Beasley for that role.

Hmmm.. If he can't defend then it's not worth it.
Then again, 24 is still really young. How's his rebounding, hustle and athleticism?

I don't trust Beas to handle more than 15 minutes a game to be honest.

[RexBoyWonder]

J. Hamilton making a case for a spot next year.

Averages : 19 points, 9 rebounds, 2 blocks, 40% from 3, 78% FT. Has good BB IQ too.

For a team that needs size and spacing, kinda weird we didn't keep him around.

[mademan]

Think the Heat might go after Gasol next year? Think he'll go for an MLE type deal? The Heat might have 5-7 mill to offer.

[Dupas]

Think the Heat might go after Gasol next year? Think he'll go for an MLE type deal? The Heat might have 5-7 mill to offer.

We could but i think hes bound with the grizzlies..

[mademan]

Think the Heat might go after Gasol next year? Think he'll go for an MLE type deal? The Heat might have 5-7 mill to offer.

We could but i think hes bound with the grizzlies..

Depending on how much Beasley/Oden come back for, the Heat might be able to offer Gasol just as much money as the Grizz, a better shot at a chip, and a starting spot.

[Dupas]

Think the Heat might go after Gasol next year? Think he'll go for an MLE type deal? The Heat might have 5-7 mill to offer.

We could but i think hes bound with the grizzlies..

Depending on how much Beasley/Oden come back for, the Heat might be able to offer Gasol just as much money as the Grizz, a better shot at a chip, and a starting spot.

I just dont know if he seeks money/ships anymore. Hes had a good run in the NBA. I think we need to get younger i rather prefer to give that money to a yunger player.

[RJM]

J. Hamilton making a case for a spot next year.

Averages : 19 points, 9 rebounds, 2 blocks, 40% from 3, 78% FT. Has good BB IQ too.

For a team that needs size and spacing, kinda weird we didn't keep him around.

You're on this guy almost as much as I'm on Chris Quinn. Jeez.

Varnado, the guy we cut, is averaging 14.3 points, 11.7 rebounds, and 5 blocks a game at 49.7% FG. His efficiency rating is +22.21.

Against the Rio Grande Valley Vipers on January 12, Varnado recorded 14 points, 16 rebounds and 10 blocks while shooting 50% from the field in 34 minutes.

He's likely never going to wear a HEAT uniform again.

[RexBoyWonder]

J. Hamilton making a case for a spot next year.

Averages : 19 points, 9 rebounds, 2 blocks, 40% from 3, 78% FT. Has good BB IQ too.

For a team that needs size and spacing, kinda weird we didn't keep him around.

You're on this guy almost as much as I'm on Chris Quinn. Jeez.

Varnado, the guy we cut, is averaging 14.3 points, 11.7 rebounds, and 5 blocks a game at 49.7% FG. His efficiency rating is +22.21.

Against the Rio Grande Valley Vipers on January 12, Varnado recorded 14 points, 16 rebounds and 10 blocks while shooting 50% from the field in 34 minutes.

He's likely never going to wear a HEAT uniform again.

So?
Because one project big turn out to be not good enough we should stop trying to find prospects?

Varnado had all kind of problems in his game that made him not fit here and not be a NBA player. Hamilton is nothing like him.

Terrence Jones From the Rockets put up similar number's to Hamilton's in the Dleague last year, this year he's playing big minutes for them, very solid rotation player for a dark horse contender.

Not to say Hamilton would definitely go the same route but it's a possibility and definitely worth the gamble for a team that needs size, youth and shooting.

We're playing Haslem and Lewis as our bigs for god's sake.

[RJM]

J. Hamilton making a case for a spot next year.

Averages : 19 points, 9 rebounds, 2 blocks, 40% from 3, 78% FT. Has good BB IQ too.

For a team that needs size and spacing, kinda weird we didn't keep him around.

You're on this guy almost as much as I'm on Chris Quinn. Jeez.

Varnado, the guy we cut, is averaging 14.3 points, 11.7 rebounds, and 5 blocks a game at 49.7% FG. His efficiency rating is +22.21.

Against the Rio Grande Valley Vipers on January 12, Varnado recorded 14 points, 16 rebounds and 10 blocks while shooting 50% from the field in 34 minutes.

He's likely never going to wear a HEAT uniform again.

So?
Because one project big turn out to be not good enough we should stop trying to find prospects?

Varnado had all kind of problems in his game that made him not fit here and not be a NBA player. Hamilton is nothing like him.

Terrence Jones From the Rockets put up similar number's to Hamilton's in the Dleague last year, this year he's playing big minutes for them, very solid rotation player for a dark horse contender.

Not to say Hamilton would definitely go the same route but it's a possibility and definitely worth the gamble for a team that needs size, youth and shooting.

We're playing Haslem and Lewis as our bigs for god's sake.

Jones was a lottery pick and rightfully so. The talent was evident from college onward. As myself and countless other posters have constantly stated, dominant D-League numbers don't mean much in the NBA. They really don't. If anything, it just means that he's in the limbo that exists between D-League talent and productive NBA talent. Might Hamilton have a spot with the team in the summer? Sure. But the HEAT are well aware of what he and Griffin are doing elsewhere. THERE IS A REASON WE CUT HIM IN THE PRESEASON.

Learn to accept that. If someone is nearly seven feet tall and is cut by a team starved for size, there's a reason for it. Griffin being cut was due to a glut of guaranteed forwards on the roster and he didn't fit a glaring need at the time. The others just weren't good enough. Griffin was the only one with a real shot at making the team. I may love Chris Quinn, but THERE IS A REASON MIAMI HASN'T RE-SIGNED HIM. I'm over it. THERE IS ALSO A REASON NO ONE ELSE IS LOOKING AT [HAMILTON] RIGHT NOW AS WELL.

EDIT: He was underwhelming when he was overseas. Didn't turn any heads. Again, there's a reason.

[Altered_Beast]

jeeesh iceburg simmer down

anyways i know it is too early for this seeing our season is not even halfway through but its always fun thinking ahead to the future. what is your dream scenario for next season (assuming we complete the three peat and how GLORIOUS that would be!!!)

so here goes my ideal situation

pg: Mario Chalmers/Norris Cole
sg: Wayne Selden/Dwyane Wade
sf: LeBron James/Anthony Morrow/James Ennis
pf: Chris Bosh/Michael Beasley/Eric Griffin/Udonis Haslem
c: Pau Gasol/Chris Andersen/Greg Oden

whoever we draft in the 2nd round would be our 15th man project.

why wade as the second guard? ive been saying it forever as wade continues to age he'd be better suited as the sixth man ala ginobli and 2008 olympics (where he tore it up). would his ego allow it is another question. i think giving him 25-28 minutes as the 6th man and playing in crunch time will not only extend his playing years but make us a bigger threat offensively. chalmers im hoping resigns as he hits threes and knows our system and he can be had on the cheap. eric griffin and ennis would be brought in on rookie type deals while beasley/morrow/oden on vet min type deals. dream pickup in the draft would be selden from kansas (look him up) and then a MLE type deal for gasol

watchu think

[puppa bear]

pg: Mario Chalmers/Norris Cole
sg: Wayne Selden/Dwyane Wade
sf: LeBron James/Anthony Morrow/James Ennis
pf: Chris Bosh/Michael Beasley/Eric Griffin/Udonis Haslem
c: Pau Gasol/Chris Andersen/Greg Oden

whoever we draft in the 2nd round would be our 15th man project.

why wade as the second guard? ive been saying it forever as wade continues to age he'd be better suited as the sixth man ala ginobli and 2008 olympics (where he tore it up). would his ego allow it is another question. i think giving him 25-28 minutes as the 6th man and playing in crunch time will not only extend his playing years but make us a bigger threat offensively. chalmers im hoping resigns as he hits threes and knows our system and he can be had on the cheap. eric griffin and ennis would be brought in on rookie type deals while beasley/morrow/oden on vet min type deals. dream pickup in the draft would be selden from kansas (look him up) and then a MLE type deal for gasol

watchu think

I love the idea of Wade in the Manu role - in fact I've mentioned it before as well (mostly to a negative response).

I'm not sure that a rookie would be the pick to start in his place though - we have Spo as our coach, not Pop!

Selden looks like a good pick for us, but it's a coin-toss atm as to whether he'd still be there when we pick. But Kansas has a good chance to play deep into the tourney & earn him some big time exposure.

[Dmcdani6]

Whats the next play for MIA? Who are they going after?

[SweetTouch]

it's obvious Riley has got to trade Rio or Cole

SPO has this weird fascination with playing two shoot first PG's together while this dude Lebron James plays for the Heatles

Riley has seen enough, he going to start making some calls to pick up a SG, maybe a tall one who can make 3's. Sort of like a Mike Miller type

and MM would of gotten enough rest here, sitting when Wade plays, therefore no injury

[Altered_Beast]

it's obvious Riley has got to trade Rio or Cole

SPO has this weird fascination with playing two shoot first PG's together while this dude Lebron James plays for the Heatles

Riley has seen enough, he going to start making some calls to pick up a SG, maybe a tall one who can make 3's. Sort of like a Mike Miller type

Should've kept miller god damnit

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