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Post#761 » by UTJazzFan_Echo1 » Thu Jun 8, 2017 11:56 pm

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UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:Dang...

News just broke that Jonathan Jeanne has Marfans Syndrome. Career is likely over.

Super sad news.


That's too bad, is that common in big guys?

I don't know about "common" but it's the same thing that Isaiah Austin had back in 2014 and he had a similarly long, thin build as Jeanne.

Edit: Apparently their body type is a strong indicator of Marfans Syndrome (tall, long and very thin).
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Post#762 » by AingesBurner » Fri Jun 9, 2017 12:40 am

UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:
GobertReport wrote:
UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:Dang...

News just broke that Jonathan Jeanne has Marfans Syndrome. Career is likely over.

Super sad news.


That's too bad, is that common in big guys?

I don't know about "common" but it's the same thing that Isaiah Austin had back in 2014 and he had a similarly long, thin build as Jeanne.

Edit: Apparently their body type is a strong indicator of Marfans Syndrome (tall, long and very thin).


Yeah I just read that too, they both had such promise.
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Post#763 » by AingesBurner » Fri Jun 9, 2017 12:41 am

I just hope a team or the NBA "drafts" him in the 2nd round or the NBA takes him in the 1st like Austin.
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Post#764 » by SoCalJazzFan » Fri Jun 9, 2017 4:36 am

UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:Did some more digging on the off-court rumors about Bolden. Here's what I found...

Apparently Bolden is quite a party animal, his teammates don't like him very much and he had some run-ins with the coaches about practicing/training a couple different times. So there's definitely some off-court concerns there that have caused him to drop down draft boards.

Your sources could be totally correct and he could be a headcase/headache. I can't comment on teammates not liking him, but I do know that he did not like the role they were forcing him into at UCLA as a center, when he is clearly a forward (either SF or PF), and that could be the issues of him having issues with the coaches. In fact, I believe that the reason he left UCLA was the coaches and them planning on him being their center again this past season which prompted him to leave, which probably was a good move on his part.

The dude averaged 13 pts, 7 rbs, 1 block, 1 steal in nearly 28 mins per game in a real mans league this past season. He'll be more NBA ready than the college underclassmen in this draft. I love his athleticism and shooting with his size. It is an unfair comparison and certainly a stretch, but he reminds me quite a bit of Gallinari.

His twitter account is pretty innocuous, and he seems to be religious for what that is worth.

If I were the Jazz, I'd take him with the 24th pick as I haven't seen anyone else I like better that should be in that range of the draft.
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Post#765 » by SoCalJazzFan » Fri Jun 9, 2017 4:38 am

UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:Dang...

News just broke that Jonathan Jeanne has Marfans Syndrome. Career is likely over.

Super sad news.

Super sad for the kid, but I didn't want the Jazz to draft him.
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Post#766 » by KqWIN » Fri Jun 9, 2017 4:56 am

For me, I was just looking back at the season, and, personally, I felt like I could’ve done more, if I had been given the opportunity. I felt like I should’ve played more; I would’ve done a lot more in [the three] position. I did what I could’ve done, for what I was given.

Bolden’s father Bruce expanded on what Jonah said. He told Fox:

He felt that he wasn’t able to give the impact that he went over there with, not playing in the position that he was recruited. Last season, he played the four spot. His roommate, GG (Gyorgy Goloman) was injured, so he filled that role.

Jonah thought that, with GG back healthy, he’d be able to slide back down to the three-spot. Unfortunately, over the past month, he was still in that big-man role, and didn’t know why. He thought it was going to be the same as previous years.

He wanted to go to the three-spot, and he got the impression that it wasn’t going to happen, and he felt that would ruin his chances of really showing his three skillset. He didn’t think anything was going to change, so he told me that he was ready to move on.


http://www.bruinsnation.com/ucla_basketball/2016/8/4/12384930/jonah-bolden-left-ucla-because-alford-didn-t-use-his-skillset

It's so funny how things have changed over the past couple of years. Everybody wanted to size down and believed that they could be a big wing or guard. Now that's all nonsense. You want to be a guy with skill who can play big. This was just a year ago...hopefully he doesn't still think he's a 3.

It would have been interesting to see him play in this year's rendition of the UCLA Bruins, but it's probably not an accident that he decided to leave UCLA right as TJ Leaf decommitted from Arizona. Lonzo Ball transformed UCLA into a completely different team. One that would play right into Bolden's desires to play on the perimeter.
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Post#767 » by UTJazzFan_Echo1 » Fri Jun 9, 2017 6:18 am

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UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:Did some more digging on the off-court rumors about Bolden. Here's what I found...

Apparently Bolden is quite a party animal, his teammates don't like him very much and he had some run-ins with the coaches about practicing/training a couple different times. So there's definitely some off-court concerns there that have caused him to drop down draft boards.

Your sources could be totally correct and he could be a headcase/headache. I can't comment on teammates not liking him, but I do know that he did not like the role they were forcing him into at UCLA as a center, when he is clearly a forward (either SF or PF), and that could be the issues of him having issues with the coaches. In fact, I believe that the reason he left UCLA was the coaches and them planning on him being their center again this past season which prompted him to leave, which probably was a good move on his part.

The dude averaged 13 pts, 7 rbs, 1 block, 1 steal in nearly 28 mins per game in a real mans league this past season. He'll be more NBA ready than the college underclassmen in this draft. I love his athleticism and shooting with his size. It is an unfair comparison and certainly a stretch, but he reminds me quite a bit of Gallinari.

His twitter account is pretty innocuous, and he seems to be religious for what that is worth.

If I were the Jazz, I'd take him with the 24th pick as I haven't seen anyone else I like better that should be in that range of the draft.
According to my source, he had problems with his overseas coaches too.
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Post#768 » by stitches » Fri Jun 9, 2017 6:35 am

UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:
SoCalJazzFan wrote:
UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:Did some more digging on the off-court rumors about Bolden. Here's what I found...

Apparently Bolden is quite a party animal, his teammates don't like him very much and he had some run-ins with the coaches about practicing/training a couple different times. So there's definitely some off-court concerns there that have caused him to drop down draft boards.

Your sources could be totally correct and he could be a headcase/headache. I can't comment on teammates not liking him, but I do know that he did not like the role they were forcing him into at UCLA as a center, when he is clearly a forward (either SF or PF), and that could be the issues of him having issues with the coaches. In fact, I believe that the reason he left UCLA was the coaches and them planning on him being their center again this past season which prompted him to leave, which probably was a good move on his part.

The dude averaged 13 pts, 7 rbs, 1 block, 1 steal in nearly 28 mins per game in a real mans league this past season. He'll be more NBA ready than the college underclassmen in this draft. I love his athleticism and shooting with his size. It is an unfair comparison and certainly a stretch, but he reminds me quite a bit of Gallinari.

His twitter account is pretty innocuous, and he seems to be religious for what that is worth.

If I were the Jazz, I'd take him with the 24th pick as I haven't seen anyone else I like better that should be in that range of the draft.
According to my source, he had problems with his overseas coaches too.


From what I've heard on Bolden - there are legends about his attitude/work ethic/partying etc. and not in a good way.
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Post#769 » by stitches » Fri Jun 9, 2017 6:37 am

UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:Dang...

News just broke that Jonathan Jeanne has Marfans Syndrome. Career is likely over.

Super sad news.

That's really sad :( Poor kid. Work your whole life for something and get it taken away right when it's about to become reality. It sucks. :(
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Post#770 » by pickIBL » Fri Jun 9, 2017 2:06 pm

Man what a blow
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Post#771 » by pickIBL » Fri Jun 9, 2017 3:52 pm

Apparently this isn't over. Jeanne is probably going to play in france and continue to seek nba clearance. Austin has resumed his career in Europe. So I guess maybe the jazz ought to work him out.
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Post#772 » by pickIBL » Fri Jun 9, 2017 3:53 pm

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UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:
SoCalJazzFan wrote:Your sources could be totally correct and he could be a headcase/headache. I can't comment on teammates not liking him, but I do know that he did not like the role they were forcing him into at UCLA as a center, when he is clearly a forward (either SF or PF), and that could be the issues of him having issues with the coaches. In fact, I believe that the reason he left UCLA was the coaches and them planning on him being their center again this past season which prompted him to leave, which probably was a good move on his part.

The dude averaged 13 pts, 7 rbs, 1 block, 1 steal in nearly 28 mins per game in a real mans league this past season. He'll be more NBA ready than the college underclassmen in this draft. I love his athleticism and shooting with his size. It is an unfair comparison and certainly a stretch, but he reminds me quite a bit of Gallinari.

His twitter account is pretty innocuous, and he seems to be religious for what that is worth.

If I were the Jazz, I'd take him with the 24th pick as I haven't seen anyone else I like better that should be in that range of the draft.
According to my source, he had problems with his overseas coaches too.


From what I've heard on Bolden - there are legends about his attitude/work ethic/partying etc. and not in a good way.

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Post#773 » by SoCalJazzFan » Fri Jun 9, 2017 8:03 pm

Well, that stinks as I see some serious flaws with just about every other stretch big that I've looked at. If he is that crazy, the Jazz won't take him and I don't want an Iverson, Spreewell or Rodman or the like on the Jazz regardless of how good they are.
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Post#774 » by UTJazzFan_Echo1 » Fri Jun 9, 2017 9:51 pm

SoCalJazzFan wrote:Well, that stinks as I see some serious flaws with just about every other stretch big that I've looked at. If he is that crazy, the Jazz won't take him and I don't want an Iverson, Spreewell or Rodman or the like on the Jazz regardless of how good they are.

I mean, he's still intriguing, especially with the new two-way contracts, because you could always just banish him to the D-league if he's a problem and keep him away from the Jazz. Still, you'd want him on a non-garunteed contract in case you needed to cut ties with him sooner rather than later.

I wonder how much it would cost to trade into an early 2nd round pick. Probably a lot, but it'd be interesting to make a run at a pick in the 31-40 range to pick him up with.
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Post#775 » by SoCalJazzFan » Fri Jun 9, 2017 11:25 pm

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This is interesting. Were Jazz there in April to watch Bolden or someone else?
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Post#776 » by UTJazzFan_Echo1 » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:05 am

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This is interesting. Were Jazz there in April to watch Bolden or someone else?

Both Bolden and Kaba are prospects for this years draft, so the head to head matchup was probably pretty intriguing to NBA teams. I would imagine they were there for both.
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Post#777 » by SoCalJazzFan » Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:19 pm

UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:Both Bolden and Kaba are prospects for this years draft, so the head to head matchup was probably pretty intriguing to NBA teams. I would imagine they were there for both.

True, they could have even been there for players for next year's draft, but it does make one pause and wonder.
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Post#778 » by pickIBL » Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:08 pm

I want both guys plus deonte burton
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Post#779 » by pickIBL » Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:08 am

SoCalJazzFan wrote:Well, that stinks as I see some serious flaws with just about every other stretch big that I've looked at. If he is that crazy, the Jazz won't take him and I don't want an Iverson, Spreewell or Rodman or the like on the Jazz regardless of how good they are.

They'd win gold in 2020. What's your problem? Not into skipping practice, cross dressing, and asphyxiation? You've offended bums, 50 shades fans, and the lgbti community.

Probably should have put that in green
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Post#780 » by MalonesElbows » Sun Jun 11, 2017 5:52 pm

Jazz are drafting Semi if he's there. He is big enough to cover the PF position most of the time and is money from the 3 point line. There are a lot of decent bigs in this draft but the NBA is going away from bigs. Everyone runs to the 3 point line. Lebron has been playing CENTER for Cleveland alot against Golden State. The traditional PF is truly dead.

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